View Full Version : Looking for info. lazer 7"
slowpoke
01-27-2008, 06:12 AM
My son is thinking on getting a 7" lazer ice auger. He tried my 6" and loved it. He ask me how much harder the 7" would be to use. He does fish for walleyes now and then so he needs a little larger hole just in case he gets a large walleye. I told him I didn't know how much harder the 7" lazer is to used but I think not much and it's the best and easiest to use hand auger out there. What do you guys think? Also. Where is the cheapest place to buy one?
overandunder
01-27-2008, 08:14 AM
i have a 7" laser that is great. I fish walleye majority of the time and never had any problems with width. turns real easy with sharp blades. Not sure on where to find best price considering I just bought mine at the local tackle shop. Good luck out there!
dinoday
01-27-2008, 08:24 AM
I've had a 7" Lazer for at least 10 years,it works great and holds up forever.Don't know about price since mine is so old.
WALLEYE MIKE
01-27-2008, 08:42 AM
Just a guess, but maybe 20-30% harder.
slowpoke
01-27-2008, 08:54 AM
I like buying there anyways. Seems there prices are not that far off. Going to look at the cyclone Panfish Fish Scaler. Son wants one of those also.
Any one here has a cyclone Panfish Fish Scaler? Would like a report on that also. Thanks.
I just bought one on Ebay for about $75 delivered but I saw one after that went for about $70 delivered. I try to go local when I can but nobody around Ann Arbor that I know of sells them and I needed a replacement for my broken Mora (excited for my Lazer, btw!) before I was going to be around somewhere that sells Lazers. I think 7" is the perfect all around size, personally. I would imagine the work would be related to volume of the cylinder of the hole you are drilling.
So, if volume of a cylinder = height * area of the base (pretty sure) and...
area of a circle = pie * the square of the radius....
I think the volume of 6" hole in 8" of ice = 8 * 3.14 * 6^2 = 905 cubic inches
7" hole = 1232 cubic inches (+36% of a 6" hole)
8" hole = 1607 cubic inches (+78% of a 6" hole)
10" hole = 2513 cubic inches (+178% of a 6" hole)
Someone might want to check my math but that's why I go with a 7" Lazer - good sized hole for just about everything, plenty of room for my transducer, and not too much more effort than a 6" hole. That jump 8" is getting up towards twice as much effort (or at least ice drilled through).
freshwater drum
01-29-2008, 05:25 AM
So, if volume of a cylinder = height * area of the base (pretty sure) and...
area of a circle = pie * the square of the radius....
I think the volume of 6" hole in 8" of ice = 8 * 3.14 * 6^2 = 905 cubic inches
7" hole = 1232 cubic inches (+36% of a 6" hole)
8" hole = 1607 cubic inches (+78% of a 6" hole)
10" hole = 2513 cubic inches (+178% of a 6" hole)
Someone might want to check my math but that's why I go with a 7" Lazer - good sized hole for just about everything, plenty of room for my transducer, and not too much more effort than a 6" hole. That jump 8" is getting up towards twice as much effort (or at least ice drilled through).
:yeahthat:
double trouble
01-29-2008, 06:45 AM
i would stick with a 5 or 6 unless you tangle with extra large walleye or pike. that way you can attach a cordless drill and knock off 30-50 holes. mobile fishing is the way to go these days for panfish.
http://cgi.ebay.com/STRIKEMASTER-LAZER-HAND-AUGER_W0QQitemZ180210161415QQihZ008QQcategoryZ3615 2QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
shadow
01-29-2008, 12:59 PM
heres a 6inch with a buy it now price of $50 + $12 shipping. not bad price to get it dropped off at your door
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310014216804&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX&refitem=180210161415&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget
bluekim7
01-29-2008, 01:47 PM
I got my 8 inch of ebay for $60 delivered to my house. The math done above would be about right. My buddy has a 6 inch and it is much easier than my 8 inch. Bigger ones aren't to bad as long as your not blasting through 10+ inches of ice. Than they are not fun.
i have a 7" piece of cake with good edges, my buddies 8" is hard to drill with all day but its nice to have a little bigger hole to see down:yikes: should of thought about that before i wrote it:D
HemlockNailer
01-29-2008, 03:48 PM
slowpoke, I have a 8 in. mora but I am currently using 7 in. blades on it. Why not buy the 7 in. If it is not to your son's liking, put 6 in. blades on it.:idea:
rustyw
01-29-2008, 04:14 PM
I use a 8 incher and have for the last 15 years.. I have no issue's at all cutting holes all day. I love the bigger hole but I do alot of Pike fishing.:fish: It is very important though with the 8 + inch augers to take care of the blades and stick a fresh pair on at the beginning of each season.
kingfisher 11
01-29-2008, 04:18 PM
I was looking at the 8" today. I have a 10" power auger but I am tired of hauling the big thing around. I have watched these lazers work and they are fast. I walleye fish almost exclusively so I just don't think I should go smaller then a 8" I was going to ask the same question....how much harder. I would say it was answered.
I have been pricing the 8", they seem to be around $79. I only want the Lazer, I had a mora and what a pain.
Bob D
01-29-2008, 04:31 PM
I just bought one on Ebay for about $75 delivered but I saw one after that went for about $70 delivered. I try to go local when I can but nobody around Ann Arbor that I know of sells them and I needed a replacement for my broken Mora (excited for my Lazer, btw!) before I was going to be around somewhere that sells Lazers. I think 7" is the perfect all around size, personally. I would imagine the work would be related to volume of the cylinder of the hole you are drilling.
So, if volume of a cylinder = height * area of the base (pretty sure) and...
area of a circle = pie * the square of the radius....
I think the volume of 6" hole in 8" of ice = 8 * 3.14 * 6^2 = 905 cubic inches
7" hole = 1232 cubic inches (+36% of a 6" hole)
8" hole = 1607 cubic inches (+78% of a 6" hole)
10" hole = 2513 cubic inches (+178% of a 6" hole)
Someone might want to check my math but that's why I go with a 7" Lazer - good sized hole for just about everything, plenty of room for my transducer, and not too much more effort than a 6" hole. That jump 8" is getting up towards twice as much effort (or at least ice drilled through).
The formula is correct, but you used diameters in your calculation.
The volume of 6" hole in 8" of ice = 8 * 3.14 * 3^2 = 226 cubic inches.
Interestingly enough, the percentage increase volume is about the same. I can't remember the formula for torque.
thill
01-29-2008, 04:35 PM
I have an 8" lazer and I would be happy to sell it to buy a 7". My buddy has a 7" and it zipps through much easier than mine.
The formula is correct, but you used diameters in your calculation.
The volume of 6" hole in 8" of ice = 8 * 3.14 * 3^2 = 226 cubic inches.
Interestingly enough, the percentage increase volume is about the same. I can't remember the formula for torque.
You are correct. Whipped those out without paying attention.
New numbers:
6" hole = 226 cubic inches
7" hole = 308 cubic inches (36% increase over 6")
8" hole = 402 cubic inches (78% increase over 6")
I use an 8" and the guy I fish with regularly has a 7". One thing we've noticed is the easiest one is always the sharpest —*pretty much regardless of diameter. That said, its difficult to put a good edge on these without a jig and you're looking at $27 (4"), $28 (5"), $29 (6"), $33 (7"), $35 (8") for new blades... pretty close to the differences in value between a new and used price and a potential cost that continues on.
greelhappy
01-30-2008, 10:15 AM
Here is my math on the 8" Lazer.
70 years old-----very tough
60 years old-----moderatly tough
50 years old-----tough
40 years old-----so-so
30 years old-----what's the problem?
20 years old-----how many holes you want?
I'm 70 years old and have a 8" Lazer, do the Ma
th.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
To be serious, what I do in thick ice ,say 10"s, is auger down 5 or 6 inches, then spud the rest. Those last 4 or 5 inches are tough with a 8" auger. Maybe I should take my power auger? Naw.:lol::lol:
esoxer
01-30-2008, 10:48 AM
Bought my 7" lazer 'bout 15 yrs ago. Best investment I've made on the ice. Just had to touch up the original blades last season with a little hand hone. Keep the cover on at all times, this thing is SHARP! 7" is ideal for wallys. I would consider getting the 6" to use with a battery drill.
nscrfrk
01-30-2008, 11:49 AM
i sometimes carry 2...i have a 5" lazer for panfish, much easier and faster for drilling numerous holes and if i plan on pike or walleye fishing i have an old 7" mora, usually not drilling as many holes and better to get the bigger ones through...for prices, do a google search, done a lot of my shopping that way, usually puts you on the best bargains...good luck
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