My Take on the Red fad

[fishin'magician']

First lets talk about line. What a crock o poop. Red line does not "disapear" as advertised. The red pigment turns black NOT clear. So you might as well be using black line when you think your getting a low vis line. Now hooks I dig em and for shallow water aplications they are cool. When fishin in 30+ foot of water they will also turn black. Now in ice fishin aplications that number decreases greatly acording to In-Fisherman. Light levels decrease by 90 percent by 6 inches of ice with 2 inches of snow on it. So that would translate into at 3 feet the color red disapears. So all of you who are thinking about buying into the need of red hooks red line ect........ it is not that big of a deal.

[tinmarine]

Interesting take. I don't think the red line does much either. I like floro leaders and harness' and main line with superbraid, except ice lines. I've been seeing if the red hooks do any better than the black or gold hooks. I wasn't able to get out as much as I would have liked this past summer but, I think they do better than the gold hooks, not too sure on the black yet. I have noticed more hits going with Vanish for my harness' than run of the mill mono. Hopefully I'll get a better take this summer, but the way work is looking, I might not get out much again this year.:(

[icefishermanmark]

I could not agree with you more. THANK YOU for posting this. My question I pose to anyone whol believes that red line is "invisible" is, "why do the fish always strike the red hook?" They can obviously see it. And as mentioned, red does not disappear, it simply turns black and is still quite visible making it worse than mono. An since it's visible, you might as well fish with braid which has much better properties. The red line is just a marketing scam. If you want invisible line go with flourocarbon.

[waterfoul]

one more reason to color the last couple feet of your braid black with a magic marker.

Floro leaders rock!! BUT, ditch that vanish and pick up some P-line or Seaguar please!!!

[tinmarine]

ditch that vanish and pick up some P-line or Seaguar please!!!



Tried them. Don't like em. I prefer them Vanish. P-line isn't bad, but the Seagaur I really don't like. Too stiff with too much memory. But, to each his own.

[waterfoul]

Never met a length of vanish that didn't break AT the knot. Every time. But like you said... to each their own.

[alex-v]

Red line does not "disapear" as advertised. The red pigment turns black NOT clear.
That is what I thought but I started asking about it.

Yes, the red colors on lures and hooks will turn black at deeper depths. But what I have been told by people that have read up on this is that the line will become low-vis because it is not a solid red. It is a translucent red.

The real way to find out will be to have a scuba diver down on the bottom when we go by with our red, green, and clear lines.

[sea nympho]

I didn't think many believed the "invisible" claims, anyway. I remember In-Fish shot it down pronto, said it's advantage only in top 3-5 feet of water column, then turns black. That's what appears to happen when watching on aqua-vu versus mono/flouro, although it's a little tricky b/c cam is B&W;). Anyhow, about the OEM claims of "Invisible", yeah right...even Flouro isn't invisible(still closest thing, yes)-I've been underwater and checked that! Either way, I believe completely concealing one's fishing line is unnecessary.

[wartfroggy]

you look at some ocean fish from deep water. Some are red colored when you bring them to the surface, but blend in great at the depths, a brown to grey color and match the rocks and bottom. But not invisible. Some divers will tell you that in deep water, blood will look green. All of the red wavelengths are filtered out but the greens and blues will still make it down. It goes by ROY G BIV. Red is the first to be filtered out, violet is the last. That is also why deep blues and violet colors are so good in dirty water (Sag Bay and Erie walleyes, Mich City Cohos). So yes, agreed, red lines are a joke. In very dirty water they may have a purpose of blending into the background, just as a brown or grey line would but with greater visibility above the water. But for icefishing, you can see clear mono fine above the ice. And yes, flourocarbon is the closeset to invisible we have now, but the advantage it has over clear mono is only underwater, because flourocarbon has a very similar density to water, so it reflects light in a similar manner.

[Duck-Hunter]

I used that cajun stuff a couple years back on one of my bass rods and it SUCKED. I will never buy it again.


That HT ice fishin line that is red also sucks. Havent used it but we messed around with about a foot of it at wally world and you tie a knot and give a yank and SNAP. Also stretches like crazy and gets all jacked up

Get some FireLine Crystal

[The Doob]

I just bought some p-line ice fishing line, 10# test/1# diameter, and it is baby blue - What's up with that? I bought it for walleye fishing the Sagainw River thinking the #1 diameter would cause less drag on the line and allow me to use smaller/lighter jigs/jigging rapalas. It is very expensive at $9 for 75 yards - I stretched to to two reels by backing it with the cajun red ice line, which I wasn't very impressed with.
Has anybody used the baby blue p-line before?

[greelhappy]

While fishing from a boat I was using slips. For no particular reason I had a normal gold perch hook on one line and a red hook on the other. The red hook caught almost all the fish. It got to the point that I thought of just pulling the other rod out of the water. Thinking that I had struck on something very good the next time out both lines had red hooks. Nothing spectacular happened that day or days after. So I guess for that one day the fish chose the red hook.:confused::confused::confused::confused:. That's fishing.

[DanP]

I purchased some of the cajun last year - did not get it on the reals. I do dive and wanted to take it on one of our dives. Forgot it every trip. But based on what I have scene down to 70' the red is the first to go but it does not disapear.

I have some photo taken in the keys of red coral with and with out a flash at about 40'. with out a flash the color is a milky brown, with the flash bright red. If I can find then I will post. It think deeper it may fade out to blend in with colored water but clear water you are going to see it.

Most of my fishing is 10 feet or less so I expect the line to be visible unless fishing cloudy water. None the less I will spool up a couple of ice reals for this year to give it a try.

[CaptBB]

I have two panfish rods, one with the cajun line the other with stren, both in 2#test. They have both caught they same amount of fish.
Presentation is the most important key.(jig size,color,shape)

[fishin'magician']

The results are in! On the aqua view I was able to see cajun red WAY better than mono or floro. I tested in stained and clear water niether made a difference.

[olddog413]

I just bought some p-line ice fishing line, 10# test/1# diameter, and it is baby blue - What's up with that? I bought it for walleye fishing the Sagainw River thinking the #1 diameter would cause less drag on the line and allow me to use smaller/lighter jigs/jigging rapalas. It is very expensive at $9 for 75 yards - I stretched to to two reels by backing it with the cajun red ice line, which I wasn't very impressed with.
Has anybody used the baby blue p-line before?Not sure what you bought, but I have been using P-line Floroice for a couple of years now. It is not baby blue. 10# test ? Seems a bit much. I use 5#, fish the river also, and haven't lost a lure to a fish since I've been using it.Tie a good knot, and set your drag right and you won't need that heavy line. The lighter the line, the quicker the lure sinks, and better action it has as a rule.To each his own I guess, I just know that floroice in 2,3,and 5# is not baby blue.

[BradU20]

The results are in! On the aqua view I was able to see cajun red WAY better than mono or floro. I tested in stained and clear water niether made a difference.

With or without the infrared lights on?

[fishin'magician']

That was with out lights. I wanted it to be a natural test, just like the fish.

[stinger63]

First lets talk about line. What a crock o poop. Red line does not "disapear" as advertised. The red pigment turns black NOT clear. So you might as well be using black line when you think your getting a low vis line. Now hooks I dig em and for shallow water aplications they are cool. When fishin in 30+ foot of water they will also turn black. Now in ice fishin aplications that number decreases greatly acording to In-Fisherman. Light levels decrease by 90 percent by 6 inches of ice with 2 inches of snow on it. So that would translate into at 3 feet the color red disapears. So all of you who are thinking about buying into the need of red hooks red line ect........ it is not that big of a deal.

It is exactly what you mentioned a RED FAD.I dont buy into the red hooks either,never have and never will.You want line that dissapears go with flouracarbon ice line.