Aluminum to Carbon back to Aluminum

[swampstand]

I am considering going back to Aluminum arrows.

Things I don't like about Carbons:

Cutting
Replacing feathers or vanes
Tight groups inevitably damage arrows beyond repair (Cracked fibers, or worse, EASILY telescoping arrows if hitting nocks).
Concern about shooting a damaged arrow, dangerous.Has anyone here ever gone back to aluminum arrows after shooting carbons for a couple years. I have truly gave them a chance, but really miss the familiarity and workability of aluminums.

Are the advantages of carbons justified when all factors considered?????

[Kelly Johnson]

Has anyone here ever gone back to aluminum arrows after shooting carbons for a couple years.

Yes. Well....kinda. I never totally "left" aluminums. Still used them for target and even some 3D.

Are the advantages of carbons justified when all factors considered?????

Only YOU can answer that.

The big factor I like in the carbon is the small diameter. I really believe they penetrate better thru an animal when they're smaller diameter.

[kingfishcam]

Here are some tips to ease your pain.

1. Consider useing FOB's instead of fletchings. No glue.
2. Use arrow wraps, then glue fletching.
3. Buy a Harbor Freight cut off saw ($25) and a G5 ASD ($38) and cutting arrows will not be a problem anymore.
4. Acc's are a great arrow to help reduce risks in shooting cracked arrows.
5. Stop shooting groups. Obviously your shooting skills will soon damage any kind of arrow.
6. Flex the arrows before shooting them, you will know if you have a bad one.
7. Watch the slow motion video on the Carbon Express website. There is a compairison of an aluminum arrow vs a carbon arrow. You will not believe the amount of energy wasted by aluminum arrows.

Hope some of these suggestions help.:)

[Kelly Johnson]

There is a compairison of an aluminum arrow vs a carbon arrow. You will not believe the amount of energy wasted by aluminum arrows.


I don't think I've seen this but I'll venture a guess that the alum is a little bit under spined and the Carbon is about perfect?;):lol:

I went with (Back to)ACC's myself after they quit making the Black Max:rolleyes:

[kingfishcam]

I don't think I've seen this but I'll venture a guess that the alum is a little bit under spined and the Carbon is about perfect?;):lol:

I went with (Back to)ACC's myself after they quit making the Black Max:rolleyes:

I could excuse the flight part due to spine, but after the arrow hits the target, well, that is a different story.
Check it out, it is pretty cool.

[Kelly Johnson]

I can't get the vids to work Cam but I still think it can be explained with too weak a spine.

Spine is a rigidity measurement basically..."how stiff is it?"

Weak spine will show even more so on impact than at the shot no?

[kingfishcam]

I can't get the vids to work Cam but I still think it can be explained with too weak a spine.

Spine is a rigidity measurement basically..."how stiff is it?"

Weak spine will show even more so on impact than at the shot no?

Ya, I suppose it would. I highly doubt that they would cheat with a severly underspined arrow, but you never know.

Plus, I never thought that smaller diameter alone would give the better penetration using same weight arrows.

And yes, I shoot aluminum for my indoor stuff as well. Cobalts rule!:lol:

[Corona]

I heard they are starting to make Kevlar arrows. Best of both worlds?

[William H Bonney]

I know 2 guys that went back to aluminum. Both I have the utmost respect for and their archery knowledge. They save the carbons for 3D shoots.

[HoytRLWinstonGuy]

Unless youre shooting traditional going back to aluminum from carbon seems kind of like crazy talk. The main reason I like them is the durability. I never have to worry about something laying or falling on my quiver and bending my arrows. They typically shoot faster and flatter, the smaller diameter gives good penetration, not to mention that Ive now shot 4 deer with the same arrow- unheard of with aluminum. I used to have to buy a half dozen arrows or more just about every season and now I've had the same dozen and a half GoldTips for I think 5 or 6 years now. I still have some fresh XX75's but they're for the longbow only.

[Erik]

I have to agree with hoytRLwinstonguy. I like the carbons because they are so durable. It took me along time to accept carbon arrows and try them. Now I don't see myself going back to aluminum. Cedar maybe, but not aluminum :)

[fasthunter]

Unless youre shooting traditional going back to aluminum from carbon seems kind of like crazy talk. The main reason I like them is the durability. I never have to worry about something laying or falling on my quiver and bending my arrows. They typically shoot faster and flatter, the smaller diameter gives good penetration, not to mention that Ive now shot 4 deer with the same arrow- unheard of with aluminum. I used to have to buy a half dozen arrows or more just about every season and now I've had the same dozen and a half GoldTips for I think 5 or 6 years now. I still have some fresh XX75's but they're for the longbow only.
This is why I stick with carbons as well.:) That and use Montecs with it that are durable and resharpen. I don't buy to much stuff in regards to arrows and heads anymore deer hunting.:D

[HoytRLWinstonGuy]

I shoot Muzzy's and all I ever buy are replacement blades--- about every 3 or 4 years.