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buckslayerII
11-08-2007, 08:02 AM
How do you guys go about insulating the inside of basement blocks that are above grade. There's really only about 1-1.5, but I was thinking about doing the first 3-4 to try to keep the floors warmer since there's no heat in the basement. My current thought is to just glue on some of that blue-board insulation. This is in the storage part of the basement. The soon to be completed finished part already has studs with fiberglass.
Thanks
FISHMANMARK
11-08-2007, 08:54 AM
Use "R-board" instead of the "blue board".
buckslayerII
11-08-2007, 10:05 AM
R-board - OK - help me out here. If I go into Lowes are they gonna know what that is?
FISHMANMARK
11-08-2007, 12:45 PM
http://www.atlasroofing.com/residential/rboard.asp
Click on residential, there is a list of locations in Michigan. For what it is worth, I live in a town of about 1,500 people, our local lumber yard carries it. I would assume Lowes carries it, however, I couldn't find it on their website. I only suggested it because of the insulating characteristics are much better.
Rboard R-Values & ThicknessesStandard
Thicknessin.1/2"
5/8"
3/4"
1"
1.5"
2.0"
2.5"
3.0"
3.5"
mm.13
16
19
25
38
51
63.5
76.2
88.9
R-Value*3.0
3.8
4.5
6.0
9.0
12.1
15.3
18.5
21.7
RSI.53
.67
.79
1.06
1.58
2.13
2.69
3.26
3.82
Pieces per Pkg.42
34
29
22
15
11
18
15
13
4´ x 8´ Size - Sq. Ft./Pkg.1344
1088
928
704
480
352
576
480
416
4´ x 9´ Size - Sq. Ft./Pkg.1512
1244
1044
792
540
396
648
540
468
* Conditioned thermal values were determined by ASTM Test Method C 518 at 75° F mean temperature. All test specimens were conditioned in accordance with procedures outlined in ASTM C 1289-02, Section 11.1.2.1
FISHMANMARK
11-08-2007, 12:49 PM
Maybe this will work.... 1.5" has an R-value of 9.0. I used 3/4", I made a hude difference...
Rboard R-Values & ThicknessesStandard
Thicknessin.1/2"
5/8"
3/4"
1"
1.5"
2.0"
2.5"
3.0"
3.5"
mm.13
16
19
25
38
51
63.5
76.2
88.9
R-Value*3.0
3.8
4.5
6.0
9.0
12.1
15.3
18.5
21.7
FISHMANMARK
11-08-2007, 12:51 PM
I give up... check the website, good luck!
buckslayerII
11-08-2007, 01:37 PM
:) Thanks for trying to post it. I checked it out and will see what I can find around here.
It looks like you are going to install it on the inside of the basement, not the exterior? If that is the case you can save a lot of money by going to your local roofing supply (not a mega box, a real supply house) and buy "Isoboard".
It's the same insulation, (polyisocyanurate) as the R-Board, but with a different facer, fiberglass laminated with asphalt. I don't know what area you are in, but a 4x8x 1.5" isoboard is running $18.50-$19.50 in southern MI. A bit more north of Midland due to frieght costs.
Hawkman
11-19-2007, 03:27 PM
Spray Foam is the only way to go. Seals the house air tight. See if there is a person in your area that does this. Well worth the money..
buckslayerII
11-20-2007, 08:05 AM
ESOX - you are correct - on the inside of the blocks. I actually talked to my local R-Board retailer and she said that it's not intended to be used on the inside where it'll be exposed. I'll check out the Isoboard, which I think is what she suggested (it's written down).
Hawkman - does the spray foam stick to a bare block wall? I would think it's kinda messy. This isn't a new build, I wanna just add some insulation to the top portion (above grade) of my existing basement walls.
Thanks guys.
Hawkman
11-20-2007, 08:58 AM
Not bad at all, very control spray. You will have to move items away from the walls and the guy should put down paper to stop any little mess. There very little running, dries quickly. I have the name and number of the guy that did mine and a few other friends. Yes mine was a new built, but talking to him, existing just take a little longer.
buckslayerII
11-20-2007, 01:07 PM
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