Interesting Facts

[Big Daddy Benelli]

This doesn't make sense if she not allowed to take money from our Fishing and Hunting funds, where's the money gone to?:rant: We should not be effected when we bring money to the state!!

(http://www.michigan.gov/printerFriendly/0,1687,7-153-38948-121641--,00.html) Economic Impact
Natural Resources Boost Michigan's Economy
Michigan ranks 3rd in the nation in licensed hunters (more than 750,000) who contribute $1.3 billion annually to our economy. Some 2.6 million non-consumptive users contribute $1.2 billion to our economy.
Michigan ranks 8th in the nation in numbers of licensed resident and nonresident anglers who contribute $2 billion annually to our economy.
Michigan ranks 1st in the nation in the number of registered snowmobiles and 3rd in the number of registered boats; recreational boating contributes $2 billion annually to our economy and when there is an abundance of snow, snowmobilers create a $1 billion bonanza for northern Michigan communities.
With 22 million visitors annually, state parks and recreation areas play an important role in Michigan's tourism industry, contributing $580 million to the state's economy.
Michigan's nearly one million registered boaters spend $873 million on trips during our relatively short boating season.
Michigan DNR manages the largest dedicated state forest system in the nation; forest products industry and recreational users contribute $12 billion and 200,000 associated jobs annually to our economy.

[WALLEYE MIKE]

You only have some of the facts here. Can't make a determination without all the income and expenses.

[alex-v]

Where is the reference to the stuff you quoted? That is, where is the web site you copied it from.

You need to look at the big picture. Only a small percentage of the money mentioned in the "Economic Impact" you quoted actually goes to the DNR or even directly into the state's budget.

Contributing to the economy means money spent on gas, on lures, on ammo, on renting a room at a motel, stopping at the burger place for lunch. It even includes taking the wife along and the money she spends on food, lodging, her side trips.

These numbers probably even include repairs to boats, trailers and equipment since it is money spent and going into the local economy.

[Big Daddy Benelli]

Alex-v this is from the Michigan DNR page... Walleye Mike, your right this doesn't include expense's, but common sense would tell you it's the Department that makes alot more money than anything else, right?:confused: We can't have a billion dollars in expense's can we?

[alex-v]

But, the monies mentioned are money that goes into the local economy. That is money spent at the gas station, the party store, the lumber yard (to build blinds), at the auto parts store to repair something, and the list goes on. It is money that was spent as part of going fishing, hunting, boating, snowmobiling, or as a tourist.

Only a very small amount of this money goes directly to the DNR. But, it is money that is important to the people who live in this state. There are part time jobs that actually exist just because people spend the summer on the lakes, jobs that exist because people go hunting. The money they spend goes into the economy.

The DNR is not saying that they collect this money. They are just saying how important fishing, hunting, snowmobiling, boating, etc. is to the entire state's well being.

[Big Daddy Benelli]

I understand that, so wouldn't the government what to help keep this activities going for the State to benefit from.. Still alot of money coming in just from license fees? That's why I posted that info, I can tell you I went out ice fishing and Walleye fishing from Spring to Summer and only seen an attendant once? I bought a year pass so it doesn't really hurt me, but what about all the people that buy daily's? No one was there to bring in more money for the state?

[Fish Eye]

Bottom line...we need to increase license fees and I agree with the double. I'll have more in truck and boat gas for a day trip to St. Clair next week than the proposed and scrapped $58 all species license. I spent $22 at Gander on Sat. just for nothing terminal tackle. $58 for an annual all species is cheeeapppp people. Granted on St. Clair you need multiple licenses but still, what a fishery...you get what you pay for and you have to pay to play.

[Ninja]

I understand that, so wouldn't the government what to help keep this activities going for the State to benefit from.. Still alot of money coming in just from license fees? That's why I posted that info, I can tell you I went out ice fishing and Walleye fishing from Spring to Summer and only seen an attendant once? I bought a year pass so it doesn't really hurt me, but what about all the people that buy daily's? No one was there to bring in more money for the state?

Who ever said the State is going to stop these activities??? :confused:

[Big Daddy Benelli]

By closing down Park, boat ramps, etc... From what I understand aren't the gates closed to the launch?

[Ninja]

By closing down Park, boat ramps, etc... From what I understand aren't the gates closed to the launch?


Do a little more research, my friend.
Even if they shut 'em down for a week, they aren't gonna lose much money.

[rjt]

Do a little more research, my friend.
Even if they shut 'em down for a week, they aren't gonna lose much money.

thats not the point!

[Big Daddy Benelli]

Thanks rjt!! Who would want to lose even a week of pay? Not me! If your a small business owner, I'm sure you wouldn't want to either. I just got back from a work in Canada, and believe me I told them they can have her (GRANDMOLE) back whenever they want her!!:D:lol::):cool::cwm27:


thats not the point!

[ggoblue]

Bottom line...we need to increase license fees and I agree with the double. I'll have more in truck and boat gas for a day trip to St. Clair next week than the proposed and scrapped $58 all species license. I spent $22 at Gander on Sat. just for nothing terminal tackle. $58 for an annual all species is cheeeapppp people. Granted on St. Clair you need multiple licenses but still, what a fishery...you get what you pay for and you have to pay to play.

a canadian non res liscense is 60 and our resident license should be 58? :tdo12: frickin bullcrap. plus 58 for my 17 yr old and 58 for the wifie and more the next yr and the yr after that...lets just recall this loser commie elitist worst ever governor in state history already. a whole ton of folks will just buy the queens license and never look back, and a whole lot of poachin will be goin on too. the state will lose their a--.