Broadhead Flight Confusion

[Slice]

I was out at the archery range with a friend this past weekend. He just got a Mathews Switchback XT and it was only sighted in for his field points.

We decided to do some broadhead shooting, so we shot a field point at a 20 yard target, then pulled out a broadhead and put it on an arrow and shot. I was not suprised that mine hit within a 1/2 inch (I shoot expanding broadheads). But I was extremely shocked that he put on his Muzzy 4 blade without the blades lining up with his fletchings and hit his field point arrow.

So we proceeded to go back to 30 yards, and bam the arrow hits right next to his field point AGAIN:dizzy:. So since we shoot the same arrows, Bow, and draw length, I take the arrow and shoot it, and mine was 4 inches high and right (this is what I expected his to do in the beginning).

Now we go back to 40 yards and he puts a new broadhead on his arrow, the broadhead looks all cock-eyed when you look down the shaft, but same result, it goes 1/2 inch low and right at 40 yards. I told him to go and buy a lifetime supply of those broadheads and never think of switching.

[Ninja]

His bow is tuned properly, yours is not.

[GVDocHoliday]

Ditto on Ninja...

Also, blades lining up with fletch is a load of urban myth...plays no part in accuracy with fixed blade broadheads.

[Slice]

I would agree with that if I had not paper tuned mine. I get great groups out to 40 yards with both my field points and broadheads (Eastman Firstcuts). He just got it off E-Bay used. Unless the person he bought the bow off used the identical broadheads. I guess I should have let him shoot one of mine to see what it does.

[GVDocHoliday]

Paper tuning is "ok" for expandables, but plays no part in fixed blade accuracy.

I could get your bow shooting the MX4's with your field points out to 50 yards with just a couple of adjustments. Sounds like a nocking point issue and arrow spine issue.

[Slice]

If you tune my bow so that the Muzzy's shoot well out to 50 yards, what will my expandables shoot like?

Not to start up this topic again, but when they did the broadhead test on Michigan Out of Doors the test bow was tuned and shooting field points into the same hole at 35 yards. When they put the muzzy 3 blade on it was 3" away from where the field point hit.

[Michihunter]

A broadhead NEEDS to be broadhead flight tuned. I agree with Doc and would say without a shadow of a doubt that if he got the Muzzy's tuned, your expandable will be hitting in the same place. Paper tuning is a STARTING point. Not a finishing point.;) With all due respect to the MUCC test, a FP out of an untuned bow can hit the same spot over and over again as easy as a tuned bow will.

[Slice]

Thanks,
Maybe when I get ready to buy my X-Force ;) I will have it tuned along with my Switchback.

[GVDocHoliday]

Fixed blade broadhead tuning is the final word in tuning a bow. When you get your field points and fixed blades heads hitting the same POI there's no more you can do. I shoot a grim reaper mechanicals...but when tuning my hunting rigs and even my target rigs I use fixed blade broadheads and field points and bring their POI together. I know this way that spine, draw weight, draw length, tiller, etc are in their optimum positions.

The MUCC test was quite the POS if you ask me, and yes, 'POS' is the acronym you think it is. That bow wasn't tuned at all...they just shot it with a shooting machine. To be honest there's no excuse for the snypers to impact different than the field points other than the fact the people who set up that test didn't know what they were doing in regards to bow tuning or broadhead tuning. If they wanted an accurate broadhead test they'd of used the largest fixed blade three blade broadhead they could find and get it hitting with field points out of the shooting machine. Then proceeded to shoot for accuracy with field points. You'll find that if they had broadhead tuned that bow and arrow combination with the broadhead that performed the most poorly, that every single broadhead in that test would have impacted the exact same POI as the field point variable.

[TnRidge]

Ditto on Ninja...

Also, blades lining up with fletch is a load of urban myth...plays no part in accuracy with fixed blade broadheads.


Ditto !

[sbooy42]

Fixed blade broadhead tuning is the final word in tuning a bow. When you get your field points and fixed blades heads hitting the same POI there's no more you can do. I shoot a spitfires mechanicals...but when tuning my hunting rigs and even my target rigs I use fixed blade broadheads and field points and bring their POI together. I know this way that spine, draw weight, draw length, tiller, etc are in their optimum positions.


worded perfectly except the grim reaper thing;)...Montecs and Slick Tricks are awesome broadheads, but even better tuning aids..

[GVDocHoliday]

worded perfectly except the grim reaper thing;)...Montecs and Slick Tricks are awesome broadheads, but even better tuning aids..

HAHAHA. Spitfires are good broadheads too. I'm just a grim reaper guy. I like the trocrazor tip.

[sbooy42]

HAHAHA. Spitfires are good broadheads too. I'm just a grim reaper guy. I like the trocrazor tip.

Yeah they look like they'll put the hurt on...been meaning to give men try..I have few spitfires to use up before I try though...

[Tapfoot]

Don't forget to get the arrows and inserts squared up so if you spin test the broadhead on the shaft its as perfect as can be with the naked eye.

[Undertow]

I was out shooting with neighbor kid tonight. I was dead on with both my broadheads and my field points, no tuning, no nothing, they just fly good for me. The neighbor on the other hand was all over the place the whole time. I watched and watched to see if he was dropping his bow or jerking or anything which he wasnt. He kept messin with his sights trying to get some consistency. Finally I said just grab your broadheads those are what matter. Well he was shooting high and to the right with his field points and low and to the left with his broadheads. He keeps shooting keeps hitting in the same spot. I ask him if his broadhead and field points weigh the same, he says no his broadheads are a hundred and his field points are 75. I was like well theres your first problem. So I say throw those away and from now on just shoot your broadheads. So I took his bow made some adjustments to his sights and had him shooting straight. Im going to pick him up some new field points tommorow. Kids I tell yah....
Undertow

[Slice]

Well I had my friend come over and shoot my firstcut expandable. Well all I can say is he needs to stay with his Muzzy's. He was 3 inches left using the expandables. I told him it is to late in the game to go switching anything or messing with something that works right for each of our bows. So like I said in my earlier post, when I decide to go get my X-Force I will wheel and deal to have my switchback tuned along with my X-Force.