Muzzy 3 blade or 4 blade?

[boathouse]

Decided I am going to give some Muzzy's a try this year. I am going to get either the Muzzy 3 blade or 4 blade in 100gr. Just wondering what people feel is better or worse between the two? Other then the obvious one having one more cutting blade the 3 blade is 3/16 wider. Does that make a difference or does the extra blade make a difference? So what do you folks think?

Thanks

[Joe Archer]

I would probably go three-blade. My guess would be that if put to the penetration test the three would penetrate bone better than a four. Put either through the chest, and lungs of a broad-side deer and the difference will be negligible..
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[fishinmachine2]

My son went to the 3 blades this year and they shoot great!!

Scott

[browning13]

ive been shooting the 100gr 3 blade for 3 seasons now and theyve been great.

[dumb-luck]

I've been shooting 3 blade for years now and I love them. I'm not sure what you guys may think, but I was told to make sure the blades line up with the flechings. This will help improve the flight of the arrow. I always make sure they are lined up.(O-ring if needed) I don't know if it really makes a difference. Anyway, I'd go with 3 blade. Best of luck this year to everyone.

[Ole Spike]

Shot the 4 blades for years and took a few deer with them but last year started getting the old curveball effect (arrows going high and right) probably from planing. Don't know why there was any change-still shooting same arrows, etc. but changed to the 3 blades and they shoot better.

[fairfax1]

Muzzy: I've been using the 100gr 4blade (1" cut diameter) for two seasons. I went to it because it shot better than the Thunderhead 125's I had used for years; and was a lot cheaper (tho shot the same as) Rocky Mountain Titaniums, which I tried for two years.

I even tried Rocky Mountains' Snyper for part of a season.

Here's my impressions: I think the Muzzy 100/4blade is a good value (about $6 each) and it flys quite well. I took perhaps 15 or 16 deer with this head and got complete pass-thru with virtually all hits (was shooting 58lbs of KE, all shots 23yds or closer). I was surprised I wasn't getting better blood trails; however, most deer expired relatively close to my stands. The blades are indeed sharper than what has been Muzzy's long-standing reputation for poor factory edges. Best yet, they are relatively easy to sharpen with a Lansky, which means you can re-use the same blades over and over again. They have a very secure locking design....as do all Muzzys. I never had any of them experience blade twist or shift or breakage....which had been a problem with the TH-125's.
I would recommend them IF they fly well out of your rig.

The issues I had with the other mentioned blades were: Thunderhead -125 - sometimes had a tendency to plane; shed blades after hitting a bone. A good value at about $5 to $6 each.

RM's Titanium-100's flew well but could shed blades upon hitting bone; were expensive at nearly $12 each. But, they were extremely sharp.....Rocky Mountain has long had a reputation for excellent edges....maybe the best in the industry.

The much hyped Snyper --also by Rocky Mountain---fly very well (it is a mechanical) and it killed the two deer I hit with them; however, I was disappointed in the blood trail given that both deer were double lung'd. ( I see now the even more hyped 'Rage' uses a blade opening design that seems to be a copy of the Snyper. Patent issues?)

Lastly, as I've posted in the Slick Trick thread....I'm giving Tricks a test-drive this week. I bought a couple of paks of them last night and will be taking them to the sand-pit over the weekend. They are sharp but not to the level that I've found with Rocky Mountains. I am intrigued by their reputation for accuracy. Two fellows at my archery club...whose opinion I always listen to....both tell me Tricks are the most accurate broadhead they've ever shot. That means a lot to me.

[boathouse]

Thanks everyone it looks like the consensus is the three blade ones, so I will be trying the 3 blade ones and see how they fly and then go from there.

[lumpy]

my choice is the 3 blade , Mark one as a pratice blade and zero in using it. they fly consistant but you MUST use one for sighting in. Do not expect it to fly light a field point.
when I switch over to the blade after shooting my field points for target practice , 3-d and the sort they always (at least for me) hit a bout 3 inches high and 2 inches to the left .
I just make the adjustment and sight them in.
Too Many people set expectaions that all broadheads should fly like the field point. I have not found one that does. Expandables are different story on that subject but I do not want to rely on an expandable and the durability and penetration that I get is great. (your milage may vary)
My 2 cents worth

Lumpy

[gamecock]

Good choice on the 3 blade...I shoot the 3 blade and it shoots great for me, and damn these things are tough!!!

[TrekJeff]

my choice is the 3 blade , Mark one as a pratice blade and zero in using it. they fly consistant but you MUST use one for sighting in. Do not expect it to fly light a field point.
when I switch over to the blade after shooting my field points for target practice , 3-d and the sort they always (at least for me) hit a bout 3 inches high and 2 inches to the left .
I just make the adjustment and sight them in.
Too Many people set expectaions that all broadheads should fly like the field point. I have not found one that does. Expandables are different story on that subject but I do not want to rely on an expandable and the durability and penetration that I get is great. (your milage may vary)
My 2 cents worth

Lumpy

Sighting in is a two part process. Once you have your field point zeroed, throw the practice broad head at it. If you hit high, lower your rest or raise your knock and vice versa if you hit low with your broad head. If you hit right, move your rest left, hit left move your rest right. When I say move, it's only in 1/32" increments. Since the field points are more forgiving you should be hitting right on with a bit of tweeking. This bit of knowledge can be found in more detail in the Definitive Fixed Boadhead tuning thread. But it works great, just takes a bit of time.

Good luck!!

[boathouse]

Bought some three blades and they seem to fly fine. I just have to shoot them some more and tune things if if needed. They are definitely not very sharp but it did not take me long to sharpen one up with a good stone.

[JLB-MI]

For the past three years, I have shot deer with 125 grain three blade Muzzys. All three deer were hit in the heart lung area and none left what I would call great blood trails. All the deer were recovered and in the case of one had I not seen it drop the tracking job would have been difficult as there was almost no bloodtrail. My reason for switching to them was due to their accuracy. This year I am going to try Slick Tricks which give me the same accuracy but hopefully better blood trails.

[bersh]

For the past three years, I have shot deer with 125 grain three blade Muzzys. All three deer were hit in the heart lung area and none left what I would call great blood trails. All the deer were recovered and in the case of one had I not seen it drop the tracking job would have been difficult as there was almost no bloodtrail. My reason for switching to them was due to their accuracy. This year I am going to try Slick Tricks which give me the same accuracy but hopefully better blood trails.

This isn't a shot at you, but more of a general question related to the overall point of your post.

Why is it that people seem to think that the lack of blood trail is due to one particular make of broadhead, but are willing to try another head of very similar design and expect it to perform drastically different?

If you were switching from a Muzzy to some sort of mechanical, or a fixed blade of totally different design, I'd agree that the head may/could/should perform differently. But one head with three or four fixed blades having a 1 to 1-1/8" cutting diameter really isn't going to be that much different than another three or four fixed blade head having a 1 to 1-1/8" cutting diameter.

I understand that one head may fly a little better or be more accurate than another in one bow vs. another, but to me, that is about where the differences end on a practical standpoint.

Again, not slamming you, but this is just something that I read often on a number of forums, and I just don't get it.

[boathouse]

This isn't a shot at you, but more of a general question related to the overall point of your post.

Why is it that people seem to think that the lack of blood trail is due to one particular make of broad head, but are willing to try another head of very similar design and expect it to perform drastically different?

If you were switching from a Muzzy to some sort of mechanical, or a fixed blade of totally different design, I'd agree that the head may/could/should perform differently. But one head with three or four fixed blades having a 1 to 1-1/8" cutting diameter really isn't going to be that much different than another three or four fixed blade head having a 1 to 1-1/8" cutting diameter.

I understand that one head may fly a little better or be more accurate than another in one bow vs. another, but to me, that is about where the differences end on a practical standpoint.

Again, not slamming you, but this is just something that I read often on a number of forums, and I just don't get it.


I have thought the same thing. I am still learning and will be for a long time but it seems to me that there are so many variables to the shot and placement that could lead to a bad blood trail. The head is only one small portion to the puzzle.

[bigbuckdown]

i have shot three blades for a long time and just recently switched to the 4 blade phantoms and am very anxious to see how they work out this year.

[JLB-MI]

This isn't a shot at you, but more of a general question related to the overall point of your post.

Why is it that people seem to think that the lack of blood trail is due to one particular make of broadhead, but are willing to try another head of very similar design and expect it to perform drastically different?

If you were switching from a Muzzy to some sort of mechanical, or a fixed blade of totally different design, I'd agree that the head may/could/should perform differently. But one head with three or four fixed blades having a 1 to 1-1/8" cutting diameter really isn't going to be that much different than another three or four fixed blade head having a 1 to 1-1/8" cutting diameter.

I understand that one head may fly a little better or be more accurate than another in one bow vs. another, but to me, that is about where the differences end on a practical standpoint.

Again, not slamming you, but this is just something that I read often on a number of forums, and I just don't get it.

No offense taken and there is no explanation for it. My experience includes testing all sorts of broadheads. Accuracy is one item that I view as the paramount. What strikes me odd, is that I recall not having any problem with blood trails with Thunderhead 125's or with Satellite 100's. However, at greater distances their accuracy was not as good as with Muzzys. The first two years I just dismissed the lack of bloodtrails as some quirk but now after three years I no longer think it is a quirk. The exit wounds on the three deer shot with Muzzys seem to not be as pronounced as those I recall with Thunderheads for example. Who knows. I am not trying to be a know-it-all...I am just relaying my experience in this matter.

[bucksrus]

My three blade Muzzy's fly as good as my field tips. Sometimes even better! Bow is tuned perfectly I must add so I'm sure that has much to do with it.