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Joe Archer
09-17-2007, 10:19 AM
Well, so far so good with my predictions for the Lions. Hopefully, the string is over! I now have the Lions down for two losses in a row.
In any case, Kitna was inspiring Sunday against Minnesota, and the defense played a good game as well. I don't know about you but I am glad I watched!
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Jimmer
09-17-2007, 10:45 AM
Hey Joe...that game almost killed me yesterday! My son had to remind me to sit down a dozen times! I was pacing like a caged...well...Lion. :lol:
The Good and Bad
Good:
The pass first O is gonna destroy all but the best secondarys, there are just too many weapons.
The Lions started running short screens and dump offs to the backs. Get healthy KJ!
Minimal penalties. Averaging 6 for 50 yds a game, that passing O can overcome.
Kitna is on fire when its clicking, he was 10 for 11 the first drive?
The D is monster and fired up! Who knew? Cody, Alexander, White, Redding, Edwards and MR Rogers had huge plays last night.
Receivers? Pfffft...The Leos got em in spades.
Bad:
Kitna...if he goes out we lose every game. No offense to JT or Dan, but man what a drop off in talent.
Schedule, Philly and Chicago are headhunting for #8. If you think they aren't you are simply naive. Those two D's have always had a rep for cheap shots.
Turnovers...granted only one actually came when our O was all starters. The second and 3rd QBs better learn some ball control.
2-0, 1-0 in the division. That is first place! :lol:

GMONEY
09-17-2007, 11:44 AM
you da man joe, i might jump on the band wagon if they keep this up

Tom (mich)
09-17-2007, 01:53 PM
Kitna's performance yesterday cannot be measured by completions, yardage, or QB rating. What he showed yesterday was true leadership, and a level of toughness no QB has shown in Detroit in many, many years.

After his performance, I doubt there's a single player on this team that wouldn't run through a brick wall for him.

I will say that, after his fourth quarter run, I was amazed to see one of his O-line players come up and smack him in the head after his concussion. Someone needs to sit that boy down.....

Joe Archer
09-17-2007, 04:14 PM
Kitna's performance yesterday cannot be measured by completions, yardage, or QB rating. What he showed yesterday was true leadership.....
Yep! I was in bed watching with my honey and told her, "There is no way he is not the offensive player of the week this week.." Incredible performance would be an understatement.
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thousandcasts
09-17-2007, 04:39 PM
No offense to JT or Dan, but man what a drop off in talent.

Well, let me be offensive then. JT O Suckivan doesn't belong on a Semi Pro teams practice squad let alone an NFL team. Sucks isn't even a good enough word to use when describing that rubber armed F'tard.

I was in bed watching with my honey

What are you--Winnie the Pooh? I don't even want to know what you were doing in bed with honey, but I hope a box of handi-wipes was near by. ;):lol:

MEL
09-17-2007, 04:55 PM
Yep! I was in bed watching with my honey and told her, "There is no way he is not the offensive player of the week this week.." Incredible performance would be an understatement.
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Most guys dream of being in bed with two women. Only Joe does his squeeze AND the loins:evil:

radiohead
09-17-2007, 04:56 PM
I hate to rain on this Lions parade, but they just beat the 2 of the 3 worst teams in football. They can't run the ball (56 yards on 21 attempts) and they turn the ball over way too much (O'Sullivans int's aside).
If they play every week the way they played Sunday they will go 4-12.

Munsterlndr
09-17-2007, 05:26 PM
I hate to rain on this Lions parade, but they just beat the 2 of the 3 worst teams in football. They can't run the ball (56 yards on 21 attempts) and they turn the ball over way too much (O'Sullivans int's aside).
If they play every week the way they played Sunday they will go 4-12.

They managed to win, though, playing almost half the game without their starting QB in a very complex offense. Not sure if the Colts or the Pats would win if Manning or Brady only played half a game. I'm not comparing Kitna to them but recognize that the Martz offense is very complex and it would be almost impossible for a back-up that has no playing time with the first string to step in and take Kitna's place. The back-up was responsible for 3 of the 5 team turnovers. If Kitna had played the whole game the score would have been much different and they would not have gone into overtime.

Vikings are 1 and 1 and that is a better record than a bunch of other teams so I would not say they are the worst in the league. Oakland almost knocked off Denver in OT yesterday.

Eagles next week is definitely a winnable game. It will be a good test for the lions. We'll see how Philly does tonight but there is a good chance they will be 0-2. Some guys on the Eagles usenet board are even predicting a loos to the Lions, so that shows how confident their fans are.

aquaticsanonymous
09-17-2007, 07:28 PM
Being a Denver fan, and not a Lions fan, how did Tatum Bell do yesterday? I did not catch the game.

thousandcasts
09-17-2007, 07:31 PM
Being a Denver fan, and not a Lions fan, how did Tatum Bell do yesterday? I did not catch the game.

Not good. I wanna say something like 21 yards, but that might be generous.

Munsterlndr
09-17-2007, 07:50 PM
Not good. I wanna say something like 21 yards, but that might be generous.

Bell had 14 yards rushing, 25 yards receiving. Calhoun rushed for 22 yards. The running game was ineffective for the most part. I don't know why Martz runs right up the middle when he calls a running play. Both Bell & Calhoun are too small to blast through the line, get them outside and let their speed go to work. That's why Bell had more yardage from screens than he did from rushing. KJ may be back on a limited basis next week, we'll have to see. A Martz offense is never going to have large rushing stats, he likes to throw too much and with our receiving corps. why not? You only need an occasional run to keep the defense honest.

The first 11 plays were all passing and Kitna was 10 for 11, I think. That 4 receiver, no huddle set is going to give even the best defense a hard time. They just need to learn to be more effective in the Red Zone and not throw picks in the End Zone.

Backwoods-Savage
09-17-2007, 08:15 PM
Hey, the Lions have already exceeded my expectations! They've already won 2 more games than I figured they would!


EDIT: But I haven't watched them yet this year. Haven't watched them for several years either. Still not excited over them.

Westlakedrive
09-18-2007, 03:25 AM
Marinelli's attitude is just win.
Thats what they did. They cant do better than 2-0 at this point in the season.
IF they beat the Eagles and they may, we will see if they get any respect because right now they are getting zero.

radiohead
09-18-2007, 04:21 AM
Given the past 6 seasons of being the worst team in the NFL do you really think they deserve any respect for beating 2 teams who will be lucky to win 10 games between them?



Marinelli's attitude is just win.
Thats what they did. They cant do better than 2-0 at this point in the season.
IF they beat the Eagles and they may, we will see if they get any respect because right now they are getting zero.

Westlakedrive
09-18-2007, 04:31 AM
Yes. Look at this weekend lots of underdogs won and every year there is at least one team that goes from horrible to good. Thats why you have to take it week by week. Look at Cleveland hanging 51 on the Bengals. I would have never thought that offense was capable of that.
How much respect?
That is yet to be determined but there are many people saying that there a 0-2 teams that are better than the 2-0 Lions. Lions vs Saints?
There are only a couple 1-1 teams that are better than the Lions and even though they are not one of the best 2-0 teams they are still capable of making the playoffs.

radiohead
09-18-2007, 04:37 AM
Lions Kool-aid must be some damn good stuff.



Yes. Look at this weekend lots of underdogs won and every year there is at least one team that goes from horrible to good. Thats why you have to take it week by week. Look at Cleveland hanging 51 on the Bengals. I would have never thought that offense was capable of that.
How much respect?
That is yet to be determined but there are many people saying that there a 0-2 teams that are better than the 2-0 Lions. Lions vs Saints?
There are only a couple 1-1 teams that are better than the Lions and even though they are not one of the best 2-0 teams they are still capable of making the playoffs.

thousandcasts
09-18-2007, 09:40 AM
As I diehard, I've liked what I've seen thus far in regards to a change of attitude and determination, but I'm also cautiosly optimistic. Don't look now, but here comes a struggling Philly team and typically, those kinds of teams find a way to get well quick when the Lions come to town. For the Lions, this is clearly going to be one of those statement games. If they can keep Philly down and not let them get on track, then it might be OK to take a couple sips of the Kool Aid and really feel good about this team.

Joe Archer
09-18-2007, 09:45 AM
Most guys dream of being in bed with two women. Only Joe does his squeeze AND the loins:evil:

Hey! Before she met me she wouldn't even watch a football game. Now she looks forward to Sunday afternoon in bed together. The bottom line is win lose or draw; no matter what the Lions do on the field we always experience a great performance ;) Sometimes.... we have to watch the news for highlights of the game to see what we missed. :o In any case, she has become an avid "lions fan".

As for next week.... Did you see Monday Night Football?? On the surface it would seem that the Lions can play with Washington AND Philadelphia. THAT was NOT good football!
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MEL
09-18-2007, 09:47 AM
As I diehard, I've liked what I've seen thus far in regards to a change of attitude and determination, but I'm also cautiosly optimistic. Don't look now, but here comes a struggling Philly team and typically, those kinds of teams find a way to get well quick when the Lions come to town. For the Lions, this is clearly going to be one of those statement games. If they can keep Philly down and not let them get on track, then it might be OK to take a couple sips of the Kool Aid and really feel good about this team.

After watching that Philly game last nite i dont see any reason that the loins cant beat them. Just cause Philly dosent look as good as i thought they would be. The secondary looks as weak as the loins secondary.
Early prediction: 31-14 loins.
Yes, im picking the loins to be 3-0!!! (I got to get off the drugs.)

ahasiec
09-18-2007, 10:32 AM
Lions cannot run the football as of yet, but give Minnesota's defense some credit...they are really good...

A win is a win, take it as you want....didn't the Patriots win all there Superbowl's by a field goal...still counts...

Philly is terrible...it amazing they have not gone out and got McNabb a reciever..last time they had one they made it to the Superbowl...

Early predictions, assuming Dawkins the safety is out for Philly...Lions 31- Eagles 24...Lions 3-0, Philly 0-3...mass riots erupt in Philly as they will sink to low heights...

thousandcasts
09-18-2007, 11:09 AM
I'll believe it when I see it. As I said before, these types of games like the Philly game coming are up are typically where the Lions come back to earth real quick. I want to believe that the Lions can take advantage of a team that's struggling, but history dictates that Philly will revert to their old form of being unstoppable as soon as the Lions' plane lands.

severus
09-18-2007, 01:54 PM
As for next week.... Did you see Monday Night Football?? On the surface it would seem that the Lions can play with Washington AND Philadelphia. THAT was NOT good football!
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I watched much of it and was quite bored. Neither team was very impressive.

aquaticsanonymous
09-18-2007, 02:12 PM
Yeah, I just couldn't watch the MNF game either. I turned it off at half time. Neither the Redskins or the Eagles looked very good.

FlyDaddy
09-18-2007, 06:25 PM
By no means am I a big Lion fan or even know what i am talking about regarding any football for that matter. However, with that said, didn't they chuck the ball down field for almost 400 yards? I am not sure when the last time that happened? Scott Mitchell maybe? I am not sold on this team by any means but I wont sway away from the fact these guys can make a small playoff run after witnessing what the Tigers have done, or even Clevland this year. Seems to be good league parity at which point any team has a shot within a 3 year build cycle... Who knows? :hide:

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