View Full Version : Slick Tricks......awesome!
swampstand
09-16-2007, 09:57 PM
Just bought a pack of these much talked about heads. Tightened one up, went to my 20 yard spot, launched it, BULLSEYE!
These things fly so true. I love them. I put arrow after arrow in the bullseye ring today with this head from 20 yards. Didn't have to adjust anything.
bigsablemike
09-17-2007, 06:29 AM
i bought some and like the way they fly ,also i can see no planing like with my thunder heads, they seem to go deeper into the target also.
TnRidge
09-17-2007, 07:33 AM
They are the best flying fixed blade heads I have used . I had great results on game too .
Good luck this season with them .
fairfax1
09-17-2007, 08:29 AM
Which one guys?
The 1" or 1-1/8" cutting diameter.
I'm willing to give these heads a test-drive....would like some input, if possible, on experience with one model or the other.
TnRidge
09-17-2007, 08:53 AM
I use the 1 1/8" , 100 gr. magnums
Chuck
09-17-2007, 09:27 AM
When I switch heads next year I will be trying these out. Im not a fan of the low profile heads out, but I have heard these are very sharp and I like the 4 blades and the acurecy I have heard of.
Are they scary sharp??
bigsablemike
09-17-2007, 09:39 AM
after shooting them about 15 times each into my broadhead target they would still cut the hell out of you.the thunderheads were a 1 maybe 2 shots and they were dull.
archer2
09-17-2007, 11:15 AM
I have been shooting Tricks for over 4 seasons now, IMO they are the best all around head out there. If you think their accuracy is impressive wait till you see the size of the holes they put in the animal:yikes:.
You can really thread a needle in terms of accuracy just as you were shooting a field point.
outfishin_
09-17-2007, 12:38 PM
I was able to test fire these this last weekend...the 1" diameter 100 grain ones.... I will say they do fly well....I was more shocked at how sharp they were out of the package and how sharp they stayed after about 30 shots.
TnRidge
09-17-2007, 12:55 PM
Slick tricks hold an edge very well .
swampstand
09-17-2007, 01:23 PM
Yes, as you guys are saying, I can't believe how sharp they stay.
Out of the package, I noticed they were surgically sharp. I've shot about 25 or so shots with one of the heads into my 3-d target so far, and still very sharp. In fact, it is sharp enough to hunt with.
I am just so happy and excited about this product. In today's vast array of product choices in our sport, it's good to get something that actually lives up to what their claim is.
I know it's up to me to put a lethal shot on an animal, however it is a relief to have a fixed blade fly so perfect and that gives me so much more confidence.
buckwiz
09-17-2007, 05:47 PM
What speeds are you getting good results at with the slick tricks? I like the nitrons and had good results at around 310fps. I want to try the slick tricks but not if they wont fly good at 340fps. If anyone has tried them at 330-340fps I would like to know the results, before I wast the money!!!! :help:
Kelly Johnson
09-17-2007, 06:20 PM
You really hunt at 340?:dizzy:
68Mustang
09-17-2007, 06:50 PM
You really hunt at 340?:dizzy:
That's what I was thinking.....330/340, really???
uglystick
09-17-2007, 07:02 PM
must be crossbow:dizzy:
swampstand
09-17-2007, 10:18 PM
I'm not ashamed to say that I'm only shooting 261 fps out of my 60lb Mathews LX.
I've shot different broadheads from my bow at this poundage with varied results. The Slick Tricks shoot flawlessly.
I can certainly pull more weight, but I refuse to draw more than what I can TRULY pull comfortably. Heck, on a cold enough day sitting in my stand for a couple of hours, 40 lbs would make me look like a wimp.
454casull
09-17-2007, 10:57 PM
Anyone try these with shoot through netting?
deputy
09-17-2007, 11:12 PM
If anyone has tried them at 330-340fps I would like to know the results, before I wast the money!!!! :help:
Humm .
Anyone try these with shoot through netting?
As sharp as they are, they should melt right through the netting on a blind. I had good success with the 100 gr. magnums last year, but I'll be trying the 1" Standards this fall to compare penetration between the two.
buckwiz
09-18-2007, 05:43 AM
must be crossbow:dizzy: Not a cross bow!!! Not a light arrow!!!!
buckwiz
09-18-2007, 05:45 AM
I'm not ashamed to say that I'm only shooting 261 fps out of my 60lb Mathews LX.
I've shot different broadheads from my bow at this poundage with varied results. The Slick Tricks shoot flawlessly.
I can certainly pull more weight, but I refuse to draw more than what I can TRULY pull comfortably. Heck, on a cold enough day sitting in my stand for a couple of hours, 40 lbs would make me look like a wimp.
They are making 50 lb bows that shoot well over 300 fps!!! I personally like 60 lbs.:)
buckwiz
09-18-2007, 06:00 AM
That's what I was thinking.....330/340, really??? Actually 345 but since im down to 3 arrows I thought that I might just slow it down a little bit. I would like to use slick tricks or nitrons because I really dont like mechanicals too much. I have shot the nitrons with this set up at 345 and they shot great at 30 yards but not at 50. With my last bow at 310fps nitrons shot perfect at 70. Why wouldnt someone hunt at 340 fps, its not like the arrow is gonna bounce off the deer or anything. I think KE has a lot to do with penatration( and a sharp broadhead) and at 340, its making lots of energy. Its just an arrow going faster than an arrow going 265, no other difference. Little faster and a little flater, other than that its just an arrow and a deer!!!!
buckwiz
09-18-2007, 06:02 AM
You really hunt at 340?:dizzy: Sure why not?
Kelly Johnson
09-18-2007, 07:12 AM
I think KE has a lot to do with penatration( and a sharp broadhead) and at 340, its making lots of energy.
Not any more energy than the same setup with an arrow 100 grains heavier and 50fps slower.:lol:
TnRidge
09-18-2007, 09:57 AM
Not any more energy than the same setup with an arrow 100 grains heavier and 50fps slower.:lol:
Ditto !
buckwiz
09-18-2007, 03:23 PM
Not any more energy than the same setup with an arrow 100 grains heavier and 50fps slower.:lol: I come up with around 93 with my set up and 87 with what you mentioned. Its basicly the same like you say but I really feel the speed is an advantage even if its slight, as far as a flater shooting arrow. Other than that its just an ARROW and a DEER!!! Now back to the original question, anyone try slick tricks at high speeds. Everyone talks about how good they shoot and how sharp they are so I wanna try them, thats all. Now back to the energy thing, I know 60 lbs of KE will go staight through a deer and thats what a lot of bows shoot, but is 93lbs gonna be worse or just slightly better? I feel its just slightly better, seriously only slightly better. I will take every edge I can have on my side. Happy hunting!!!!:evil:
Kelly Johnson
09-18-2007, 06:31 PM
Nope.No one has a bow as fast as yours:lol::lol::lol:
buckwiz
09-18-2007, 07:24 PM
Nope.No one has a bow as fast as yours:lol::lol::lol: When im on archery talk I hear of LOTS that do, and I know a few guys that do!!! :idea: I think you are missing the question, or..........:gaga:
Kelly Johnson
09-18-2007, 07:36 PM
Perhaps you should post your question there than.:idea:
buckwiz
09-18-2007, 07:40 PM
I thought it was a great question, seriously. I hope it didnt offend you.
Kelly Johnson
09-18-2007, 07:46 PM
Noooo....not at all.;)
fairfax1
09-18-2007, 10:41 PM
A poster above states: "I'll be trying the 1" Standards this fall to compare penetration between the two."
As long as you tee'd it up: How was the penetration on the 1 1/8" last year?
Hand-in-hand with that question....what was the arrow weight and KE last year when you got whatever penetration you got.
I too am gonna give Tricks a try this year. Will be buying the 1-1/8" Magnums tomorrow to do a few days of test-drives.
I've been shooting Muzzy's 4bl 100's at a KE of 58lbs. I got pass thru's on all my deer last year except one steep angle shoulder blade shot (tho killed the deer). These 1" cutting diameter Muzzy's have been pretty acceptable for the 2 full seasons I've used them. But, I haven't always been happy with the bloodtrail. Hence, I'm looking at the little bit wider Magnums. That, and the reputed greater accuracy of the Tricks.
They are a third higher in price ($8 ea. vs $6 for the Muzzy)....but I ain't gonna quibble over scraps of money if I can get a broadhead that zeroes great, is very sharp, gives great penetration while leaving a big hole. If the Tricks can do all that....well, I'll be a bit happier 'till something else comes along to fret me.
Speaking of Muzzy, I have long been a critic of the sharpness of their blades...even to the point of writing the Prez of the company and complaining. Got a nice letter back.
But, even tho these 4blade 100's do have better factory edged blades than Muzzy's of old....they still are not in the league of NAP's offerings, or Rocky Mountain's various products. I am eager to check the edge on the Tricks.
TnRidge
09-19-2007, 06:40 AM
Here is a picture of a used Slick Trick magnum that I cleaned up after shooting a deer with it . :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v347/TnScott/frontviewofST.jpg
A poster above states: "I'll be trying the 1" Standards this fall to compare penetration between the two."
As long as you tee'd it up: How was the penetration on the 1 1/8" last year?
The buck I shot last fall was a 200+ lb 8 point. Shooting with the setup posted below, the arrow went in just behind the last rib on the near side, and hit one rib coming out on the far side. The arrow did pass through, but was hanging about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way out of him on the far side. As long as I have an out hole I am okay with it.
Hand-in-hand with that question....what was the arrow weight and KE last year when you got whatever penetration you got.
I was shooting a 28.5" Carbon Express Maxima 350 tipped with a 100 gr. Slick Trick mag. This setup weighs in at about 385 grains, and shot out of my Ovation at 62 lbs gives me right around 50 lbs of KE. The 1" head should definitely give me better penetration with this setup. I was originally thinking along the lines of "bigger is better", but not necessarily true with broadheads...you need to find the one that will penetrate the best with your setup and has the largest cut to do so.
But, even tho these 4blade 100's do have better factory edged blades than Muzzy's of old....they still are not in the league of NAP's offerings, or Rocky Mountain's various products. I am eager to check the edge on the Tricks.
You won't be disappointed!
Randy
09-20-2007, 06:13 AM
I would like to try them, where can you find them?
Thanks,Randy
Ninja
09-20-2007, 06:46 AM
Buckwizz,
I chrono'd an XForce7 at 58 lbs, 28" draw, shooting a 27.5" arrow at 340 grains.
It shot 323fps.
The 1" Slick Trick 100gr. flew true to 30yds....I couldn't shoot any farther than that at the store.
retiredsailor
09-20-2007, 06:57 AM
Ok, you all talk so well of them, where do you get them?
buckwiz
09-20-2007, 07:55 AM
Buckwizz,
I chrono'd an XForce7 at 58 lbs, 28" draw, shooting a 27.5" arrow at 340 grains.
It shot 323fps.
The 1" Slick Trick 100gr. flew true to 30yds....I couldn't shoot any farther than that at the store. Going to get some today along with some heavier arrows. I figure a little slower with a slick trick or nitron WILL be better than faster and a mechanical. Still like it shooting as fast as I can!!!!
Camo Boy
09-20-2007, 08:10 AM
Ok, you all talk so well of them, where do you get them?
I am sure KD has them, I know Cabela's has them. Just check with your local archery shop. I am using them this year and all of the test shots I took were excellent.
fairfax1
09-20-2007, 02:55 PM
ACK....thank you for the thorough response. Minor question though --is this right? "my Ovation at 62 lbs gives me right around 50 lbs of KE." That doesn't sound right. Ovation's are not speed demons but that sounds like it isn't putting out enough energy for 62lbs. and 28" DL.
I did buy some Tricks last night. The blades are sharp but you guys had raised my hopes a bit high....either that, or I raised my hopes too high. They've got a good edge but not what I've seen out of several of Rocky Mountain's products. I guess I use RM as the gold standard for factory edges.
I'll share my experience on their accuracy when I take the Tricks to the sand-pit over the weekend.
ACK....thank you for the thorough response. Minor question though --is this right? "my Ovation at 62 lbs gives me right around 50 lbs of KE." That doesn't sound right. Ovation's are not speed demons but that sounds like it isn't putting out enough energy for 62lbs. and 28" DL.
I did buy some Tricks last night. The blades are sharp but you guys had raised my hopes a bit high....either that, or I raised my hopes too high. They've got a good edge but not what I've seen out of several of Rocky Mountain's products. I guess I use RM as the gold standard for factory edges.
I'll share my experience on their accuracy when I take the Tricks to the sand-pit over the weekend.
You're right...the bow isn't super fast, especially with that arrow, but it should be pretty close....I haven't checked things again since changing my string and tinkering with a few things, but those numbers seem to ring a bell. Either way, the Standards will penetrate better than the Mags, and still leave the same size hole, if not bigger than, the average 3-blade head.
sbooy42
09-21-2007, 09:00 AM
When im on archery talk I hear of LOTS that do, and I know a few guys that do!!! :idea: I think you are missing the question, or..........:gaga:
HMMM thats a good Q to ask over there.....So what is this bow you are shooting... better Q what is your setup....
buckwiz
09-21-2007, 12:46 PM
HMMM thats a good Q to ask over there.....So what is this bow you are shooting... better Q what is your setup....
X force 70 lb 29 inch 353 grain arrow with a winners choice 345 fps cx 300s
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