Enforcement on the pond [Archive] - The Michigan Sportsman Forums

Ed Michrina

08-16-2007, 07:59 AM

Just a heads up. Look over your boat and check all your required boating equipment.

Wednesday the Wife and I were on the way into the docks when we were stopped by The CG. On board they had 5 persons. one Michigan State officer one DEA agent one Border patrol officer One Coast guard and one Dnr officer. They had all bases covered. Anyhow They were not stopping random boats they were stopping every boat. You will be boarded and checked.

On a good note The officers were efficient and polite and the stop didn't take up much time. Yes we passed our inspection and no we were not over our limit of Walleye:lol:.

huntingmaniac45

08-16-2007, 11:56 AM

Wow! Thanks for the info.

radiohead

08-16-2007, 12:19 PM

Well they don't have to worry about me being over limit the way things have slowed for me lately.
Little off-topic, does anyone know if you are allowed to carry a concealed weapon on a boat in US water (with a CCW license), while fishing?

Just a heads up. Look over your boat and check all your required boating equipment.

Wednesday the Wife and I were on the way into the docks when we were stopped by The CG. On board they had 5 persons. one Michigan State officer one DEA agent one Border patrol officer One Coast guard and one Dnr officer. They had all bases covered. Anyhow They were not stopping random boats they were stopping every boat. You will be boarded and checked.

On a good note The officers were efficient and polite and the stop didn't take up much time. Yes we passed our inspection and no we were not over our limit of Walleye:lol:.

forknif61

08-16-2007, 01:13 PM

why do u ask? are u afriad that the Loch Ness Monster come over with one of the frieghters ballast tanks? :lol:

radiohead

08-16-2007, 01:15 PM

no but you never know who could be lurching around the launch at 2am after a night of whipping.

why do u ask? are u afriad that the Loch Ness Monster come over with one of the frieghters ballast tanks? :lol:

Ed Michrina

08-16-2007, 01:54 PM

CCW.I don't see a problem if you stay in American waters and are not drinking. They did ask If I had any guns/weapons aboard.

wcalcaterra

08-16-2007, 02:10 PM

I always carry my pistol out with me!

Mark-n-Fish

08-16-2007, 02:20 PM

Absolutly! Like Ed said, stay in American waters and no alcohol. Don't forget to declare you have a weapon and a CCW right away before they ask if you get stopped.
Mark

talon

08-16-2007, 02:40 PM

I always carry my pistol out with me! yeah that, if i'm not going to canada waters i carry my 40 cal glock

Fishnnut

08-16-2007, 02:42 PM

What do you a need a gun for while fishing? Shooting flying carp?
What launch were you at?

MUSHY1

08-16-2007, 02:49 PM

All ya really need is a 12Ga. Flare Gun......Covers both Emergency issues and Self defense all in one......And you dont need a CWP......Its Legal.....Thanks for the Heads up Ed......

Mushy

explodingvarmints

08-16-2007, 02:58 PM

All ya really need is a 12Ga. Flare Gun......Covers both Emergency issues and Self defense all in one......And you dont need a CWP......Its Legal.....Thanks for the Heads up Ed......

Mushy

Man,
You really love those flare guns don't ya:lol:. I'll never need weapons on my boat.... The O.P.P., Sherrif, Coast Guard, etc., see to it that I'm never alone out there.... They stay real nice and close to me.... tied off in fact:lol:.

rjt

08-16-2007, 03:00 PM

why do u ask? are u afriad that the Loch Ness Monster come over with one of the frieghters ballast tanks? :lol:

That one put a smile on my face!!!!:lol::lol:

MUSHY1

08-16-2007, 03:30 PM

Man,
You really love those flare guns don't ya:lol:. I'll never need weapons on my boat.... The O.P.P., Sherrif, Coast Guard, etc., see to it that I'm never alone out there.... They stay real nice and close to me.... tied off in fact:lol:.

Hey Matt, where were you last night????? I brought all that Smoked Steelhead there. Tried to save some, but Slick Fishing ate it all......Sorry Dude....

Mushy

explodingvarmints

08-16-2007, 03:46 PM

Hey Matt, where were you last night????? I brought all that Smoked Steelhead there. Tried to save some, but Slick Fishing ate it all......Sorry Dude....

Mushy

Niece crashed thru the baby gate and went for a pretty rough ride down the stairs the night before. I wanted to stop in and see her for a little bit, and make sure the new gate was installed to my liking. Then went to my parents house to hang a deer feeder for my mom. Can't trust that Slickfishing any farther than you can throw him..... I think he's under cover O.P.P.:lol:. I knew I was missing out on something dangit.

MiketheElder

08-16-2007, 06:42 PM

Good to see your name on the board again Ed.

Missed you.

eddiek

08-16-2007, 07:01 PM

yeah that, if i'm not going to canada waters i carry my 40 cal glock

Well I will say this.. I was issued a $250.00 ticket last year for having lead bullets while duck hunting... I have a CPl and had my 45 on me, I was stopped and we were checked out by the DNR, CO, and Coast Guard. Told them that I was a CPL holder and I had my pistol with me. They went through the standerd checks and proceeded to write me a ticket for possesion of lead... I went to court to fight it and was not the winner:sad:

Judge said the the DNR can enforce the lead while waterfowel rule regardless of CPL...

Just thought I'd let you know

Ed

huntingmaniac45

08-16-2007, 07:39 PM

Big Daddy Benelli

08-16-2007, 08:55 PM

Why are you whipping in DETROIT!!:lol:

no but you never know who could be lurching around the launch at 2am after a night of whipping.

Paul Thompson

08-16-2007, 09:32 PM

one Michigan State officer one DEA agent one Border patrol officer One Coast guard and one Dnr officer. :lol:.

So they were looking for a illegal alien with drugs and an unpaid traffic ticket operating an unsafe boat with to many walleye on board?

Dead Bird

08-16-2007, 09:37 PM

So they were looking for a illegal alien with drugs and an unpaid traffic ticket operating an unsafe boat with to many walleye on board?

maybe they should just go to Walpole Island.... :hide:

Mark-n-Fish

08-17-2007, 08:24 AM

Well I will say this.. I was issued a $250.00 ticket last year for having lead bullets while duck hunting... I have a CPl and had my 45 on me, I was stopped and we were checked out by the DNR, CO, and Coast Guard. Told them that I was a CPL holder and I had my pistol with me. They went through the standerd checks and proceeded to write me a ticket for possesion of lead... I went to court to fight it and was not the winner:sad:

Judge said the the DNR can enforce the lead while waterfowel rule regardless of CPL...

Just thought I'd let you know

Ed

Now that is just plain stupid. Let's just do a little pass shooting with the 45s. I'm sorry but when the DNR does stuff like that. That is what gives them a bad name. Better not have a pencil or some sinkers in your pocket if you are out hunting for ducks either. Possesion of lead while waterfowling. Better get tungsten anchors for the decoys too. :rolleyes:
Mark

eddiek

08-17-2007, 12:56 PM

Now that is just plain stupid. Let's just do a little pass shooting with the 45s. I'm sorry but when the DNR does stuff like that. That is what gives them a bad name. Better not have a pencil or some sinkers in your pocket if you are out hunting for ducks either. Possesion of lead while waterfowling. Better get tungsten anchors for the decoys too. :rolleyes:
Mark

Ya its stupid... But that’s what happens when laws are written vague and are left open to interpretation.. It did not end there as a result I had to go in front of the gun board and explain the violation. Luckily they did not agree with the judge and sent me on my way...
I can tell you this I won’t have it with me this year on the river for duck hunting

Eddiek

MUSHY1

08-17-2007, 02:09 PM

Ive heard it all now.........Sure glad it didnt happen to me, I sure wouldnt be writing this Thread.......I would have went BALLISIC, and it would have been front page news......"Read all about it, POLOCK gets killed by every branch of Public safety":lol:

Mushy

billya

08-17-2007, 02:18 PM

I was out musky fishing last week and we saw those two CG boats running around the lake!! Later on after the sun set we were trolling home to Jefferson beach marina. All of a sudden the two CG boats came flying up from behind us and proceded to run right over our planner board with two fishing lines running off of that board. We were trying to waive them off but they did not understand until they saw all the lines under their boat. Now obviously we stopped trolling and both of us were floating next to each other. It was a chinese fire drill on both boats. We had to pull all lines with musky weights andbaits and the CG boat had to tilt up their motor and untangle the planner board line along with two other fishing lines. By the time we were all untangled (10 minutes later) they pulled up next to us and said that we should have a light on the planner board and left. They were obviosly very embarresed and did not feel to good about themselves. :sad:
By the way went 2 for 2 on the Musky (american side) :)
I have never heard of putting a light on a planner board!!!:confused:
But I am glad they did run everything over after hearing what type of officers were on board. There were 5 officers on each of the two CG Boats.

Prime Time

08-17-2007, 02:34 PM

We got boated by them last Friday night at 11:30pm when we were fishing out in front of Deckers. Passed the inspection no problem. They were all very polite and only took about 10 minutes.

MUSHY1

08-17-2007, 02:34 PM

Just curious, but how far did you have you planner boards out???? Doesnt the say, you have to be at least 100 yards away from another boat in open water??? You should have been able to give them a Ticket!!!!:lol::yikes:

Mushy

radiohead

08-17-2007, 02:43 PM

you can run into trouble anywhere

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/7364327/detail.html

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/13860768/detail.html?subid=10100241

Why are you whipping in DETROIT!!:lol:

Ed Michrina

08-17-2007, 09:37 PM

Well I will say this.. I was issued a $250.00 ticket last year for having lead bullets while duck hunting... I have a CPl and had my 45 on me, I was stopped and we were checked out by the DNR, CO, and Coast Guard. Told them that I was a CPL holder and I had my pistol with me. They went through the standerd checks and proceeded to write me a ticket for possesion of lead... I went to court to fight it and was not the winner:sad:

Judge said the the DNR can enforce the lead while waterfowel rule regardless of CPL...

Just thought I'd let you know

Ed

Sounds like someone pissed off the Dnr officers?? Try copper solids or copper coated ones:lol:

bad dog

08-18-2007, 10:10 AM

You don't have to piss off the DNR officers.....they are that way already.

Two years ago I was duck hunting with a a couple buddies and a CO wrote one guy a ticket because he said he heard us unload our weapons two minutes after legal hours. We never fired any shots that evening and by the time he came up to us we had already picked up our spread. Well the guy that got the ticket fought it and got it dismissed. A week later we all got tickets in the mail for hunting after hours. Our lawyer got the the tickets taken under advisment (a one year probation). But the CO got his conviction and we had to pay the fine.

Ed Michrina

08-18-2007, 02:41 PM

Sounds like I'd quit duck hunting. I never had that problem with our DNR or MNR hunting or fishing?? but don't duck hunt.

radiohead

08-18-2007, 03:05 PM

been approached by DNR both fishing and duck hunting and never had a problem. they pulled up next to us in the river one time, asked to see our licenses, asked us to hold up our smallest fish, thanked us for our cooperation and went on their way.

got approached once duck hunting, they asked us to empty our chambers and hand them our shotguns, they check for plugs, checked for licenses. we had a duck we were having trouble identifying and they looked it over and told us it was a gadwall. pulled out a pocket brochure for identifying ducks and let us keep it.

tedshunter

08-19-2007, 01:42 PM

Well I will say this.. I was issued a $250.00 ticket last year for having lead bullets while duck hunting... I have a CPl and had my 45 on me, I was stopped and we were checked out by the DNR, CO, and Coast Guard. Told them that I was a CPL holder and I had my pistol with me. They went through the standerd checks and proceeded to write me a ticket for possesion of lead... I went to court to fight it and was not the winner:sad:

Judge said the the DNR can enforce the lead while waterfowel rule regardless of CPL...

Just thought I'd let you know

Ed
THAT IS BUNCH OF CRAP.Like you are going to be plunking ducks out of the sky with your sidearm.I'm not saying your a terrible shot or anything:D

Dead Bird

08-19-2007, 01:54 PM

unless you had nine shot loaded as bullets the ticket you should have recieved was hunting waterfowl with a pistol.... :D I need to check my perch rigs because I could get a ticket for having lead sinkers while duck hunting....:lol::lol:

RESTRICTION
No person shall take or attempt to take migratory game birds (including woodcock):

With a trap, snare, net, swivel gun, punt gun, battery gun, machine gun, fishhook, poison, drug, explosive or stupefying substance.
With any firearm except a 10 gauge or smaller shotgun capable of holding no more than three shells. Shotguns capable of holding more than 3 shells shall be plugged with a one-piece filler, incapable of removal without disassembling the gun, so that the total capacity of the shotgun does not exceed three shells.

eddiek

08-19-2007, 08:19 PM

Sounds like someone pissed off the Dnr officers?? Try copper solids or copper coated ones:lol:

To be quite honest the encounter was very freindly. I was not sure if I was in the right or wrong so I just took the ticket and thought I'd fight it later if I was in the right.. The CO that wrote the ticket was a nice man until I got the ticket:lol:....

Ed