Need broadhead advice

[soggybtmboys]

Got a new setup and would like some input from the fellas.

Here is the new setup:

Mathews Switchback XT- 29" draw, 63-65#'s

28" carbon express arrows, terminator light hunter


Old Setup

Mathews Z-Light - 29" draw, 65-68#'s

26 1/4" superslam 2213

Muzzy 4 blade 90 grains


Never had a performance problem with the old setup. Killed too many deer to recall them all, except every shot was a pass thru, including a wild boar down south taken right thru both shoulder plates.

Now, I am looking for input on whether or not I stick with the Muzzy's which have never failed me or something a little more up to date with a larger cutting diameter. The Muzzy's I have been shooting cut I believe an .0.90 of an inch hole, which I was ok with for deer and a little hesitant on boar but it performed flawlessly with a pass thru and one shot kill. I will be going for a black bear in the Upper in a little better than a month and concerned if it will be lethal and clean. I am concerned with too small a hole on a bear with thick fur and fatty sides.

Buddies have been telling me just stick with what you know and perform, they have killed alot of bear, if it kills deer it will be fine for bear. There broadheads are mostly cut on contact and heavier heads.

Should I stick with the Muzzies, or do I get something a little more substantial for the bear hunt, with keeping in mind I would like to use them on deer as well?

Mechanical heads are out, have witnessed way to many problems with mechanicals.....on deer, boar and sheep.


Thanx

SBB

[Maydar1]

Alot can be said for a head that you have confidence in. It's not a great feeling to be up in a tree with a head that your not quite sure about. That head would obviously do the job, but if you think you want more performance you should get it. I love my new slick trick magnums: 4 blade 1 1/8 cutting diameter and are flying great, right with my field points.

[Michihunter]

I personally would use a Montec but that's what I use for everything anyway due to the utmost confidence in its performance. I agree with Maydar that whatever head you choose it should invoke the greatest of confidence. The Muzzy's have performed well for many people and as such, I can see no reason to change.;)

[mmac1318]

I used to shoot the 3 blade muzzies and they always penetrated very well with pass throughs but I switched to NAP crossfires. The only reason I switched was because with the Muzzies they didnt fly nearly the same as my field tips and they required perfect tuning for longer ranges(50 -60 yds) I have shot a few aninmals with the crossfires and they cut just as good as they muzzy but fly better. If I didnt decide to hunt out west and extend my range I probaly never would have switched so if you are going to stick within 40 and are already comfy with them then there probably is no reason to switch. But if you are looking to switch I would recommend the NAP crossfires.

[Yarcher]

Like mmac said, I would be concerned with how the broadheads will fly out of your setup. If they do not fly like your field points and you cannot tune your bow to shoot them well, then you may lose confidence in them. I have a similar setup to yours, and currently am using Wasp Boss Bullet broadheads. They seem to do well for me and do the job on deer/boar/sheep. They are similar to the Muzzy 3 blade, but a little smaller diameter and shorter I think. A friend of mine has had good success with the NAP Nitrons, which are a small cutting diameter fixed blade. I have seen him take deer and boar with success. I think if I were in your shoes, I would try a three blade fixed head with a slightly smaller cutting diameter, just less surface areas and hopefully better flight. I am willing to give up a little cutting diameter for better flight and increased likelyhood of a pass through.

[Camo Boy]

2 words

Slick Tricks

[kerby1]

I use Nitron's and find them to work very well, 100 grain. Great penetration, good cutting diameter. I can't spit out all the info on them, but take a look at them. They are a small head and I find that they fly pretty darn close to practice tips, very little tuning necessary which is nice. I have shot two boars and a deer with them since making the change, I watched the nine point I shot last year run 50 yards, and do the five steps left and right dance, and go down. The first pig I shot ran about fifty yards, the second dropped. I also can't quote my arrow length or weight, I do shoot carbons, but I am a big guy with a long draw, so my arrows are on the heavier side for carbons.

[rzdrmh]

no one can say how a broadhead will shoot out of your rig.

two blade cut on contacts will penetrate the best. i like magnus stingers.

wider diameters will reduce penetration.

[Swamp Monster]

If you want to stick with Muzzy's check out the new MX-3 or whatever it is called. It's muzzy's version of the newer short compact heads that tend to fly better with faster set ups. They also introduced the MX-4 a compact 4 blade model last year. Muzzy's are good but there are plenty of heads out there just as good or better today so don't limit yourself to only one brand.

I use the Nitrons...fly great. But I would also consider G5Montecs or NAP Hellrazors as well. I also like the Wasp Boss series as well.

[GVDocHoliday]

Stick with your muzzy's. You may only have a 1" cutting diameter, but you're also throwing through an extra blade...if you switch to a three blade, you'll have 25% less cutting surface than you would with the 4blade muzzy.

[soggybtmboys]

Stick with your muzzy's. You may only have a 1" cutting diameter, but you're also throwing through an extra blade...if you switch to a three blade, you'll have 25% less cutting surface than you would with the 4blade muzzy.


Good point, never looked at it that way.

[Swamp Ghost]

If it ain't broke, why fix it? ;)

I personally shoot 3 blade Nap spitfire's, killed a lot of deer with 'em and watched them all go down within sight. Never needed a reason to change.

There a lot of good broadheads on the market.

Broadheads are like bows, everyone thinks what they shoot is the best.

[rzdrmh]

Stick with your muzzy's. You may only have a 1" cutting diameter, but you're also throwing through an extra blade...if you switch to a three blade, you'll have 25% less cutting surface than you would with the 4blade muzzy.

that's a sacrifice i'd gladly make.

[soggybtmboys]

G5's Montec in 100 grains, getting the preseason heads to practice with as well. Gonna give them a try, was that or the Magnus Snuffer SS. The Montecs look a little beefier up in the point so I am gonna try these. After talking with a few buddies and getting input from everyone here, I decided to try them. Gonna keep the Muzzies, but want a cut on contact head for the bear hunt. My bear buddies keep talking about thick hide, super thick fur that can sometimes matted down with dirt or what ever little nasties they like to roll in. Any advice from the Montec guys about tuning, shooting and sharpening these heads would be greatly appreciated.

[Tink]

I have shot the Montec's for over 3 years now. I do not use the practice heads. I shoot the real ones and resharpen as needed. The resharpening is easy. There are directions out there for it. The short of it is, mark the edges of the blades with a marker. Use a fine grit stone, (I use a diamond but the finer the better), and stroke them flat on the stone with two blades touching at a time. Go diagonally against the head. Rotate the head every stroke. Once the Marker is gone it should be good. Don't use heavy pressure. Light strokes and even pressure will make sharp edges.

This works for me. Many pass throughs, No B.S. I have shot 3 bucks with them and none of them has went further than 15yds. Most stop to look back and fall over. :)

[Corona]

I've heard great things about the 1 1/8" Slick Tricks but I've never killed anything with them yet. They are similar style to the Muzzy MX-4 but muzzys have a steel screw-on tip, alumiuim body, and 4 .025" thick blades. Slick Tricks are all one-peice steel body with 2 .035" blades (four cuuting blades but only two peices) that interlock. IMO the Slicktricks look like a better, stronger design. I've shoot both out of my Bengal and the ST shot straighter but the Muzzys droped more than my field points. But you can just re-sight your bow, no biggie.

oh yeah, I'm also shooting 28" CX Teminator Lites.