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WalleyeHunter811
06-24-2007, 08:33 AM
Help!!!!!!!!!Theres a boar inside city limits. Can i legally take this pig with a bow? or are my hands hog tied by the laws? I plan on shooting it with a bow if it makes a difference.
M1Garand
06-24-2007, 08:44 AM
Are you sure it's not someone's escaped livestock and a feral pig? You may want to contact your local animal control or maybe CO.
Ferel Swine Info (http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10363-155439--,00.html)
lang49
06-24-2007, 08:45 AM
Help!!!!!!!!!Theres a boar inside city limits. Can i legally take this pig with a bow? or are my hands hog tied by the laws? I plan on shooting it with a bow if it makes a difference.
Depends on the City...not all cities have hunting restrictions...Some do, some don't.
boehr
06-24-2007, 04:27 PM
Depends on the City...not all cities have hunting restrictions...Some do, some don't.:yeahthat:
WalleyeHunter811
06-24-2007, 05:44 PM
I am sure that its a boar....I have seen it 2 times now at my wifes work..He has shown up for the last 2 days straight...The city is MIDLAND if you might be able to check up for me anyone that would be great..Hes a BIG BIG pig and keeps coming to the dumpster..I would love to shoot it with the bow
Big Frank 25
06-24-2007, 06:26 PM
Sec. 16-16. Hunting, pursuing wild animals, birds, waterfowl, etc. (http://www.midland-mi.org/government/departments/clerk/code/CH016%20-%20Chapter%2016%20%20MISCELLANEOUS%20PROVISIONS%20 AND%20OFFENSES.HTM)
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to hunt, pursue, worry or kill any wild animals, birds or waterfowl by any means whatsoever within the city or upon property owned by the city, wherever located, except that the foregoing shall not apply to:
(1) The use of live traps under the lawful authority of and supervision by either the city manager or the county animal control center;
(2) Police officers acting in the line of duty; or
(3) Training or practicing a dog upon game birds and such animals as may be lawfully hunted with a dog during the periods established or authorized by state statute and any rules or regulations issued thereunder.
(b) Notwithstanding subsection (a), the city manager may authorize the hunting of deer by bow and arrows on clearly defined land areas within the city provided that all of the following are obtained by the city manager prior to granting authorization:
(1) A written request filed with the city manager by the owner of such land,
(2) Inspection of the requested land area by the city and the Michigan Department of Natural Resources (MDNR),
(3) A favorable recommendation in writing by officials of the MDNR, and
(4) A favorable recommendation by the chief of police.
(Ord. No. 1032, § 1, 1-10-83; Ord. No. 1076, § 1, 10-1-84; Ord. No. 1204, § 1, 11-19-90; Ord. No. 1550, § 1, 11-11-02)
WalleyeHunter811
06-24-2007, 09:37 PM
thanks big frank.. It took me a second to realize those were the guidelines for midland but that sucks because this pig is JUST inside the limits of the city..By like a mile or so....Hes a big pig too and shows up to the dumpster every morning
Frantz
06-24-2007, 09:42 PM
Follow him out of town, then shoot him.
wrenchman
06-25-2007, 02:20 PM
if you cant shoot him call the dnr so they can or live trap him
WalleyeHunter811
06-25-2007, 02:52 PM
yeah then the dnr keeps the pig wrench...The pig is not causing any harm at all the only trouble hes causing is my trying to figure out how to get that fat butt in my freezer LOL
Big Frank 25
06-25-2007, 03:30 PM
When the hog farmer came to the folks place to retrieve his hog. He simply reached in his pocket and pulled out a paper bag picked up a pebble and dropped into the bag, shook it before the hog and the hog followed him home.
Might be that simple if you feel like a little stroll!;)
Saw a program that spoke of finding swine. They used a pheromone. Claimed it would work for up to five miles! Know any hog farmers?:
Don't get any on you!:yikes:
Good luck! Take pictures!:D
john warren
06-25-2007, 03:36 PM
make sure it really is a boar,,,,my sister in law lives near there...
JWICKLUND
06-25-2007, 05:33 PM
In April, the Commissions of Agriculture and Natural Resources jointly adopted a resolution directing MDA and DNR to seek an end to the activity of recreational shooting of swine. A prohibition such as this requires action by the Michigan Legislature, which has not yet occurred.
Some counties have agreements in place involving livestock owners, MDA and prosecutors to allow hunters to shoot feral swine without risk of prosecution. Statewide application has not been secured at this time and it appears that we will head into hunting seasons with a county-by-county approach to this situation. Please make yourselves aware of your counties’ position regarding feral swine.
WalleyeHunter811
06-25-2007, 05:38 PM
Trust me John Warren i used to work on a farm. This is one of the feral hogs thats running around. I have seen him and he would look great in the freezer..Jwick is there anything i can get from the dnr to be able to poke him inside city limits? Or boehr could answer that too
JWICKLUND
06-25-2007, 06:13 PM
Jwick is there anything i can get from the dnr to be able to poke him inside city limits? Or boehr could answer that too
Get in touch with CO Person or Hartley. They would know the laws for that county.
boehr
06-25-2007, 08:31 PM
The DNR will not and can not provide the public anything allowing the hunting or discharge of any type of weapon or hunting instrument in violation of a city ordinace.
john warren
06-26-2007, 07:22 AM
ok,,, she has been mistaken for a feral sow before though....Trust me John Warren i used to work on a farm. This is one of the feral hogs thats running around. I have seen him and he would look great in the freezer..Jwick is there anything i can get from the dnr to be able to poke him inside city limits? Or boehr could answer that too
kristie
07-10-2007, 11:31 AM
A feral pig is considered "livestock at large" by Michigan law. Please contact Michigan Department of Agriculture or your local Animal Control Agency.
MDA Office for your County:
Saginaw Regional Office
1585 Concentric Blvd.
Saginaw, MI 48604
Phone: (989) 757-7501
Fax: (989) 757-7505
Larry Perreault, Regional Office Manager
Wendy Jones, Regional Secretary
Sandy McMillan, General Office Assistant
Food and Dairy Division
Elizabeth Hunt, Dairy Section Regional Supervisor
Michael Juhasz, Food Section Regional Supervisor
Pesticide and Plant Pest Management Division
Larry Perreault, Regional Supervisor
walleyechaser
08-03-2007, 05:57 AM
A feral pig is considered "livestock at large" by Michigan law. Please contact Michigan Department of Agriculture or your local Animal Control Agency.
MDA Office for your County:
Saginaw Regional Office
1585 Concentric Blvd.
Saginaw, MI 48604
Phone: (989) 757-7501
Fax: (989) 757-7505
Larry Perreault, Regional Office Manager
Wendy Jones, Regional Secretary
Sandy McMillan, General Office Assistant
Food and Dairy Division
Elizabeth Hunt, Dairy Section Regional Supervisor
Michael Juhasz, Food Section Regional Supervisor
Pesticide and Plant Pest Management Division
Larry Perreault, Regional Supervisor
there appears to be a discrepancy in the information provided. In the above quote,Michgan Law considers feral pigs as "livestock at large" while in the following section which I cut and pasted from the DNR website,
"Because state law protects domestic livestock that may be running at large, special precautions are necessary to guard the rights of farmers. The following locations had at least one feral pig reported: Alcona, Alpena, Antrim, Arenac, Baraga, Bay, Branch, Berrien, Cass, Cheboygan, Clinton, Dickenson, Emmet, Genesee, Gladwin, Gratiot, Hillsdale, Isabella, Houghton, Ingham, Jackson, Lake, Lapeer, Lenawee, Livingston, Marquette, Mason, Mecosta, Midland, Montcalm, Montmorency, Newaygo, Oakland, Oceana, Ogemaw, Osceola, Oscoda, Otsego, Presque Isle, Roscommon, Saginaw, Sanilac, Shiawassee, St. Clair, and Washtenaw counties. County prosecutors are aware that shooting feral swine in these counties is permitted and any potential owners of the feral swine have been contacted and do not claim ownership."
It appears that feral pig's ownership rights have been relinquished by potential owners.
Is my age effecting my brain or is there a contradiction in the laws here?
Your input would be appreciated in this regard.
kristie
08-03-2007, 06:53 AM
While the potential owners of the pigs have relinquished rights, the pigs is in city limits. Were the pig outside city limits, one would be able to shoot it. Most citys do not allow the discharge of firearms or bows in city limits. To err on the side of caution, a pig in city limits must be removed within the limits of the law, by animal control or the county sherrif/city police, or with permission ffrom the cheif of police.
I listed the MDA offices as contacts, as they can investigate the case, contact appropriate officials, and when the pig is removed, take samples for disease testing.
Hope this answers your question, if not feel free to ask more.
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