View Full Version : ??How do I fix my two track drive??
Airoh
06-12-2007, 06:14 PM
In very wet years I have an area of my road that saturates with water. I have clay coming close to the surface.(2 feet) I rutted up this area pretty good over the years. I filled the holes with sand but do not know how to proceed from here.
Most years I can use it year round, but like I said in the very wet years it will not let me drive through.
swampbuck
06-12-2007, 06:23 PM
if putting in a gravel driveway is out then, the next best thing is to put stone (2"to4"size) in the spots that are a problem. just fill the ruts with it. the dnr and logging companys have done this in some bad holes around here
bigcountrysg
06-12-2007, 06:39 PM
Start off with some broken concrete, that stuff works great as a base. Then put down some 1x3 gravel, you can go 2x4. Then bring in some county 125a mix which is what is used on pretty much all the county roads and shoulders. It will all pack down and become very solid.
POLARBEAR
06-12-2007, 07:57 PM
Sometimes there is a little something nice about a 2 track that not any regular old suv can putz down. ;)
bigcountrysg
06-12-2007, 08:50 PM
Sometimes there is a little something nice about a 2 track that not any regular old suv can putz down. ;)
Yes there is but when the property owner can not get down it then it needs to be repaired.
Liver and Onions
06-12-2007, 09:00 PM
If your location is near a farmer with a stone picker, they will have piles and piles of smaller rocks. Especially if they farm potatoes. A large front end loader and a dump truck would probably be needed for transport.
L & O
Airoh
06-12-2007, 10:07 PM
Good info.
Thanks
Banditto
06-12-2007, 11:04 PM
crushed limestone every couple years will eventually make a solid bed. the good stuff is called driveway backer.
spoikey
06-12-2007, 11:10 PM
Road grade gravel is your best bet for a base. Limestone is great but expensive. You can always top the road grade with it.
giver108
06-12-2007, 11:57 PM
Your problem results from the clay soil being saturated, becoming soft and the weight of your vehicle pushing any aggregate on the surface into the clay thus causing the ruts. The proper repair is to wait until the weather is dry and excavate soil until you encounter a good, stiff clay layer (which sounds about two feet at least in your case). For a two-track, a good layer of clay you should be able to place your heel on it, and have it sink no more than 1/2". Once you encounter decent soil, place geotextile fabric on top and then place 1"X3" crushed concrete. The fabric (which is similar to a silt fence material) will prohibit the stone from being pushed into the clay. I would then choke off the 1x3 stone with about an inch or two of 21AA aggregate. Obviously the best repair is to fix what is causing this area to become saturated (underdrain, culvert, etc.) but since this is a two-track, no reason to over engineer it. Do not just throw any old stones, use angular aggregate. I have a civil engineering degree and over ten years experience of designing pavement sections and see this problem all the time.
fixie
06-14-2007, 09:40 PM
If you are near a cement block manufactuer or have access to a bunch of free blocks they make an excelent binder for cruddy soil i have used this methed for years on 2tracks and driveways, Just haul em all out there and have a big ole glass of iced tea handy and bust em up and mash em into the area
swampbuck
06-14-2007, 10:35 PM
Your problem results from the clay soil being saturated, becoming soft and the weight of your vehicle pushing any aggregate on the surface into the clay thus causing the ruts. The proper repair is to wait until the weather is dry and excavate soil until you encounter a good, stiff clay layer (which sounds about two feet at least in your case). For a two-track, a good layer of clay you should be able to place your heel on it, and have it sink no more than 1/2". Once you encounter decent soil, place geotextile fabric on top and then place 1"X3" crushed concrete. The fabric (which is similar to a silt fence material) will prohibit the stone from being pushed into the clay. I would then choke off the 1x3 stone with about an inch or two of 21AA aggregate. Obviously the best repair is to fix what is causing this area to become saturated (underdrain, culvert, etc.) but since this is a two-track, no reason to over engineer it. Do not just throw any old stones, use angular aggregate. I have a civil engineering degree and over ten years experience of designing pavement sections and see this problem all the time.
"no reason to over engineer it" :lol: :lol:
Liver and Onions
06-14-2007, 10:55 PM
"no reason to over engineer it" :lol: :lol:
No kidding. It wouldn't take long to invest more in the two track than what the land cost following those directions. Not many of us have the money available to bring our two tracks up to county road specs.
fixie,
I like the idea of using pieces of cement blocks. I don't have access to any of those, but we sure do have a lot of rocks which work good enough for a two track.
L & O
Rusher
06-15-2007, 07:50 AM
Try installing drainage tile if possble to drain the immediate wet area and then apply other.
Luv2hunteup
06-15-2007, 07:39 PM
I have yellow clay soil. My two track was so bad that I would get my tractor stuck. I found a very simple solution. Ditch it.
I took my two bottom mold board plow and ran it down both shoulders of the road pulling the soil to the middle. I then took my box blade and heavily corwned the road with the soil from the newly formed ditch.
The first year made a world of difference; I repeated the process the following summer when things dried out. The road is now crowned about 18" from the bottom of the ditch. I did have to install one piece of 6" PVC to drain water from one side of the trail to the other in one low area.
The used 5ft box blade cost $350.00 and I used only the existing soil on my land. It took about 8 hours to do a half mile the first year and about half of that the second year. I do very little maintenance up keep on my two track anymore. I keep it mowed to allow the sun to dry it up as fast as possible.
Airoh
02-06-2008, 08:20 AM
I was able get about 3/4 of the two track repair done.
One of the best aspects of this site is the amount of help that is given to anyone in need.:)
For large chunks to form a base I found broken blacktop with road gravel mixed in. This really made a big improvement. I raised the road bed one to two feet with a combination of it and sand. Also removed alders five to fifteen ft. away from the road bed.
I think a ditch in a couple spots like Luv2hunteup suggested will complete the fix.:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v468/Airoh/100_0070.jpg
Got another repair done in a low spot.
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