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beer and nuts
06-01-2007, 09:54 AM
Vent: End of regulation 10 seconds, out of a timeout and that is the freakin play million dollar players and coaches come up with?? The team runs play after designed play all game and they come out of a timeout to have one player dribble around and shoot a crappy shot. Makes no sense...

OT's they double and triple team Lebron all game, game ending shots and he gets two layups without a hard foul or double or triple team.

Wallace, that SOB needs to go after this year. Shut your mouth and play and really shut your mouth after you turn the ball over and then scream foul or it was out of bounds on them when the replay clearly shows a good def. play and last touch my wallace. He is an idiot..

The last 29 point by one player...hello...is it me or does it seem quite clear when the shot clock is down to 5-7 seconds and Lebron has the ball in his hands at the top of the key that he IS going to be shooting it...why do the Pistons try double teaming with 15-20 seconds onthe clock and then when the clock gets down under 10 seconds the double teams are always too late or we only step up with Lebron is now on his way in for the drive...poor defense scheme that whole last 4th and OT's....Flip has had no answer...




TheMAIT
06-01-2007, 10:04 AM
You also forgot to mention that 3 players...2 starters and their 6th man had fouled out sometime in early overtime....AND YOU STILL CAN"T BEAT A ONE MAN TEAM!!!! without his mediocre support??? at home???unreal...

Can't Touch This
06-01-2007, 12:08 PM
Ok, i have been hearing this and i don't know what game you guys were watching. At times, they weren't doubling him, but, they were for most of the game. Watch highlights, you will see 2 or 3 players around him at all times as he made crazy fade aways. I do think they should've had Tay or Rip on him instead of Billups though...that made 0 sense.

Also....those 2 dunks at the end of regulation....he got past Tay and NO ONE was between him and the basket, those were horrible defensive plays.

Billups shot i thought was actually a good one, i really don't want anyone shooting the ball cept him in those situations, espessially after he just made what turned out to be the GT 3. A nice pump fake, and he just barely missed. The shot at the end of 2OT was actually partially block by sideshow bob, and would've went in if it wasn't.

Westlakedrive
06-01-2007, 12:19 PM
I have not seen the replay from the dunk to end the game but from what I heard it was Tayshaun cowering like a little girl on the last second dunk by James not "got past."

Greenbush future
06-01-2007, 12:21 PM
I have said it all year, They need to get rid of Chauncy B.
His is not good for our team, way too streaky and with his contract being due they need to cut bait and move on w/o him.
He sucked last year in the play offs and he dug the hole we are in right now.
Not hungry after he got one championship under his belt.

They should get rid of Chris Weber too both do nothing in the playoff's that warents the kind of $$ we are paying them.
They are a good scrimage team (reg season) but thats it.

augustus0603
06-01-2007, 01:10 PM
I have said it all year, They need to get rid of Chauncy B.
His is not good for our team, way too streaky and with his contract being due they need to cut bait and move on w/o him.
He sucked last year in the play offs and he dug the hole we are in right now.
Not hungry after he got one championship under his belt.

They should get rid of Chris Weber too both do nothing in the playoff's that warents the kind of $$ we are paying them.
They are a good scrimage team (reg season) but thats it.

Making the conference finals four years in a row constitutes being called a scrimmage team?

Aren't they paying Webber the league minimum, with Philly already bought him out of his current contract?

Webber was the only reason they were in that game last night. Losing McDyess killed them. He's their best defender on those pick and rolls and fouls hard.

codybear
06-01-2007, 01:29 PM
I have not seen the replay from the dunk to end the game but from what I heard it was Tayshaun cowering like a little girl on the last second dunk by James not "got past."


I thought I was the only one that seen him curl up in the fetal position

They didnt have double coverage on the game winning dunk by Labron, it was him and Billups only out near the point and James burned him and then drove the basket. I wonder what our guys are getting paid to make Labron look better than Jordan.

CB

codybear
06-01-2007, 03:15 PM
I have not seen the replay from the dunk to end the game but from what I heard it was Tayshaun cowering like a little girl on the last second dunk by James not "got past."


I found it, check out the video and watch Prince run away on the first slam and then later in the video curl up like a 2 year old..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpYGOJVID04

CB

MEL
06-01-2007, 03:26 PM
Im not faulting the players as much as i fault the coaching/system.
We've got 4 All star starters. Sheed, Rip, C. Bill. and C. Web, all have been all stars or are all stars. The 4th, Tay, many would argue is one of the NBA's best defenders. You cant tell me that that kind of roster cant beat one man!!! 4-5 All Starts vs ONE MAN!!! When push came to shove in the 4th qtr and the OT's it didnt take a basketball genius to figure who was going to be the "man" for the Cavs. I mean 29 out of 30 points from Lebron and we didnt stop him? All we needed was a couple of stops not 3 or 4 or 5 but like two stops and the game would have been ours. I dont care if we fouled him EVERY time he had the ball, He's NOT, repeat, NOT a clutch free throw shooter.

Anyway, my point is the entire planet knew Lebron will be getting the ball,
Why wasnt Delifno and Rip, or Tay and Rip, or Flip M. and Tay, pick your duo, assigned to guard him two on one? NOT 6'1" C. Bill.!!!
Not only that but you have Maxiell and Dale Davis sit thier axx's right in the paint and tell them "when he drives to the paint he gets knocked on his axx?. Or have sheed and Web do it. But the coach must demand from the players, "when he hits the painted area, he gets knocked on his axx"
Only two stops would have won that for us.
And besides, 2 or 3 of their other first line starters were out with fouls. So who else was the Cavs gonna go to ? Didnt take a genius to figure it out Flip!!!

Flip Saunders couldnt see what was happening and do SOMETHING, ANYTHING to stop it???

Westlakedrive
06-02-2007, 01:34 AM
I also heard that there were about 20 reporters waiting to talk to Prince after the game and he sent somebody in from the training room to retrieve his clothes and he left by the back door.

William H Bonney
06-02-2007, 09:00 AM
Ok, i have been hearing this and i don't know what game you guys were watching. At times, they weren't doubling him, but, they were for most of the game. Watch highlights, you will see 2 or 3 players around him at all times as he made crazy fade aways. I do think they should've had Tay or Rip on him instead of Billups though...that made 0 sense.

Also....those 2 dunks at the end of regulation....he got past Tay and NO ONE was between him and the basket, those were horrible defensive plays.

Billups shot i thought was actually a good one, i really don't want anyone shooting the ball cept him in those situations, espessially after he just made what turned out to be the GT 3. A nice pump fake, and he just barely missed. The shot at the end of 2OT was actually partially block by sideshow bob, and would've went in if it wasn't.


:lol: Finally.

After reading most of the posts I thought "I" had been watching a different game:lol: . I saw 2 or 3 guys on Lebron most of the night as well,,,,, even the commentators were saying,, look at the other Cav's players,, "there's no one covering them":lol:. Tay is a good defender,,, but a James caliber player is going to beat him to the basket more times than not,,, there's where the "help" comes in,,, or in this case,, lack there of.:rolleyes: I think I overheard Tay and Sheed tell reporters that they didn't wanna be in anymore Lebron James FatHead posters:lol: .

beer and nuts
06-02-2007, 03:00 PM
Its when they doubled teamed and when they didn't. Double-teaming Lebron with 18 seconds on the shotclock does nothing, they kick it around and he ends up with the ball with 7 seconds and the double team never came. The Pistons paint players were not existence in taking charges and hard fouls. Most of the time its a turn to the side and try and take a slap at the ball as he drives past you. 7th grade basketball at its finest. Sissies...for those that might understand that better!

codybear
06-02-2007, 06:16 PM
The Pistons paint players were not existence in taking charges and hard fouls. Most of the time its a turn to the side and try and take a slap at the ball as he drives past you. 7th grade basketball at its finest. Sissies...

I totally agree with that, James is just to powerful and exsplosive. We need some guys that are willing to get in front of him and take a hit not duck out like they did.

I'm still sick to my stomach over that game.

CB

TheMAIT
06-02-2007, 11:08 PM
This kid has hit double digits only 9 times in his one year career.....how is this bench player TORCHING the Pistons --seemingly in every game???