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Hamilton Reef
05-26-2007, 09:59 AM
Don't go crazy for that cabin up north

http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070526/OPINION03/705260325/1001/BIZ

05/26/07 Brian O'Connor (313) 222-2145 boconnor@detnews.com.

Gas prices are soaring and traffic's backed up which means it must be summer in Michigan, where nothing says "fun" like a four-hour crawl to the cottage.

A lot of us want to own a slice of paradise (that's Paradise, Mich., 10 miles south of Whitefish Point on Lake Superior). The National Association of Realtors says vacation-home sales rose 4.7 percent to a record 1.07 million last year, even as sales of primary homes fell by 4.1 percent.

Sales aren't quite as brisk here in Michigan, where our troubled economy means plenty of places "up north" are on the block at reduced prices.

But before you snap up a lakeside retreat, make sure the cost of your summer getaway doesn't get out of hand.

Try before you buy: The huge number of properties on the market means rents are dropping, too. Lease for a few weeks or even a season to make sure the community and lifestyle fit your family's needs.

That all-sports lake sounds great until you realize that all your neighbors are out buzzing away on Jet Skis at 8 in the morning. Likewise, if dining out is a priority, you want to be near something other than the last Dog n Suds in Michigan (it's in Montague, by the way).

Look at your timeline: How long will you want the property? Just until the kids go to college, or will it turn into an eventual retirement home?

The point is that you don't want to buy a three-season beach house away from doctors, banks, liquor stores and other essentials if you plan make your summer place a year-round retirement home.

Likewise, once your kids hit the teenage years, will they be heading off to camp, traveling for soccer and other activities that make a place up north impractical for the family? Remember: Nothing drives a teenager crazier than being out of text-messaging range of her posse.

Think other costs: Many communities don't give homestead or other tax breaks to nonresident property owners. You'll also have the cost of winterizing a summer home and may need to have a property manager check the place, too.

Another consideration: A second home means a second round of utility, insurance and maintenance bills. That's on top of other ancillary costs, like the boat you'll want to buy, furniture for the cottage and a half-dozen bear traps.

Do the math: A little research and number-crunching will help you see just where a second home fits in your budget. Some mortgages for second homes will charge higher interest rates than a primary residence. If you have a goodly amount of home equity in your first home, you might want to leverage that to buy your second home. Remember that home equity interest is tax-deductible.

Add it all to make sure that buying your own place up north doesn't send your family finances heading south.




puttputt
05-28-2007, 10:08 PM
eh. Go crazy. you only live once.

TheMAIT
05-29-2007, 12:56 AM
I agree...what is up with the random, downer article anyway?

roger23
05-29-2007, 07:03 AM
We sold our cottage a couple years ago .when the tax's went crazy,I think a lot of people don't understand the total cost.tax's water/sewer, electric& gas almost $11000 a year we used it year round or at least once a month in the winter and fall . normal up keep, new roof ,painting of coarse extra lawn mower, weed wacker,snow blower. pontoon boat, 2 jet ski's and a ski boat. plus a 180 mi round trip.of coarse washer&dryers ,TV and refrigerators need replaced. all in all it was fun I don't miss it we put the money in the stock market when we sold it , now we are not trapped and can go to a different place when we want . I guess if you have the money and like going to the same place every week end it is worth it .if you can find a place for the right price in the 70's you could by lake front for $35000 to $70000 now you can't buy a lot for that

T4HALO
05-29-2007, 11:13 PM
I bought a little place 2 years ago. No regrets at all. The $500 a month is well worth it. I figured I'd drive my old Cummins Dodge a few years longer. My electric bill was $200 for the year and the Nat. Gas was $750. Spending the time with the family is the most important thing to me. After being gone for over 20 years it's great to live, hunt and fish in the greatest state in the greatest nation.

Linda G.
05-30-2007, 07:24 AM
someone who lives up north that doesn't want any more new neighbors LOL

First of all, just about everything in that article is true. It certainly isn't cheaper to live up north, although people would like to think that, when you're "living off the land" as a lot of flatlanders think we do, it will cost you MORE to live up here. Lots of retirees find that out too late.

And yes, there's concessions; I don't even know what text messaging is, don't know anyone up here who owns a blackberry-cause they won't work. Can't get VOIP telephone up here, either, and keep my own phone number. House insurance is high, so are utility bills-especially if you're on rural electric. Gas is 10 cents higher than anywhere else in the state, and costs of just about everything you buy in a store are 10-20 percent higher. And a lot of things you just can't buy retail up here-I'm dazzled when I go into a supermarket in other areas with all the things they carry there that I've never even seen before.

Nearest hospital for me is 52 miles, but there are doctors and dentists out here, all of whom charge much more than downstate docs.

But that's still no where near enough to move back to the city-I would move to other areas of the country maybe, but I'd never move back downstate.

And if there's anything there's NO shortage of in northern Michigan, it's liquor stores.

BarryPatch
05-30-2007, 09:58 AM
Go less often, stay longer. Many problems solved. :)

Shoeman
05-30-2007, 10:09 AM
After a few years it started to feel like the place was using me, instead of the other way around.

I started to do the math. 3 hours there, 3 hours back, sometimes more with construction, traffic, ect..
Add an hour or 2 for landscaping (which I hired out eventually, but found myself still doing touch-up). Well there's at least 7-8 hours a week. Like working another day a week. :dizzy:

Then I had to justify the expenses. In order to maximize its use, we spent almost every vacation and holiday there. It got old after a while never seeing any other parts of the country/state.

On a plus side, it was a great investment. We almost doubled our money in 6 years.

Chawazz
05-30-2007, 01:09 PM
eh. Go crazy. you only live once.

Yep, gotta have that attitude. Can't rationalize the cost.

Had a place 350 miles away for 3 1/2 years now.

All the downsides are true, but when I'm there 10 minutes I can feel myself saying "it was worth it".

For that distance it's not a weekend place.

Gotta keep it simple.

Banditto
05-30-2007, 07:58 PM
Our problem is a little different. My wifes "mid life crisis" has been going on for about 5 years where she simply HAS to vacation out of state at least twice a year if not more (sometimes much more). So when you add in 1 week at Hilton Head, 1 week at Disney, 2 trips to Vegas plus another misc. trip to see our friends or whatever... it is getting harder and harder to justify having a cottage up north. Especially when we haven't seen a solid month of decent snow for a couple years.

Yes I love the place for sure, but I am running out of vacation quicker every year.

eddiejohn4
05-31-2007, 04:14 AM
I use mine quite often as I only work 14 days a month. I enjoy getting away, as a matter of fact I love it.

I use the place also as a stepping stone to other destinations as I also have some property 5 hours away, I will stop and stay a night and head up to the other and then the trip is cut in half.:)

The wife loves it up there and so does my son who owns the house with us , so the costs are shared.

Burksee
05-31-2007, 10:55 AM
.........All the downsides are true, but when I'm there 10 minutes I can feel myself saying "it was worth it"...........There are some down sides thats for sure, we've had ours for about four years now, originally it was a re-investment of a 401K that was going south fast and a small inheritance that would have gotten p*****ed away over time with little to show. It's been an added expence that keeps me driving a less than sub-current model vehicle but for just the reason Chawazz states we'd do it again in a heart beat! :D

captain jay
06-02-2007, 06:38 AM
My wifes family has a place on Millikokia Lake that has been in the family for years, and I love going up there every summer. Actually, I'm headed up for two seperate weeks this summer. I don't mind doing maintenance while I'm there because there is still time to relax, and it's ten times better than being at work.

Of course with it being in the family for so long, there is no extra expenses like monthly payments, so that makes it easier.

Captain Jay

Fishfoote
06-03-2007, 10:21 PM
We put our place on the market a week ago - tough decision, but..

http://www.realestate-mls.com/detail.cgi?viewonlyno=106-07-0029

eddiejohn4
06-04-2007, 04:05 AM
Fishfoote, that is a beautiful place, I am sure you will miss it.

deepwoods
06-04-2007, 04:27 PM
Its like most things. If you use it, it is worth every penny. Yes they are a lot of work but for some reason the chores there don't seem as bad to me.;)

jacktownhooker
11-08-2007, 04:29 AM
i have 2 acres near manistee national forest-1 mile from p. m. river -close to ludington and hamlin lk actually seen a bear and every other kind of wildlife outhouse electric sm cabin built myself 2 8x8 sheds water great for weekend getaways paid off all for the cost of gas 80-100$ round trip 200 taxes 200 electric bill-yearly time spent -priceless!!! 3 yrs never get tired :evil: