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Lazy K
05-16-2007, 09:45 AM
I'm new to using a release. I don't really like the idea of a release that utilizes a wrist strap. I like the idea of one that you just grip so that you can carry it in your pocket or whatever and it's out of the way until you need it.

My question is, does the type that you just hold create more torque on the string? In theory do you get better arrow flight from the wrist strap model? Opinions?




The Nailer
05-16-2007, 10:49 AM
Great questions! I don't like wrist straps either and have always used a Scott pistol grip release. I look forward to reading the responses you get.

chambers
05-16-2007, 11:09 AM
here is an a link to a good read about this subject. most of your questions will be anwsered here:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/product_features/buyers_guide/pages/hardgoods/archery/releases_433197.html

ThePro
05-16-2007, 06:07 PM
go to a few shops and try a few. Where are you located?

Kelly Johnson
05-16-2007, 06:13 PM
I started with the wrist strap releases myself but shoot a hand held or "T-Handle" now.

Wrist straps spread the weight out over a greater area sometimes making it seem easier to draw and you don't have to worry about dropping it.They can soak up scent though. They can also get in the way when climbing....or if you leave it off on the way in you'll never get it on to get a quick shot

Hand Held releases require greater hand strength. Are faster to use generally. All metal so scent isn't an issue and you can attach them to the loop and leave it hang.

Cheap releases suck. My advice is spend a little extra and get a good one straight away. You're havin a hard time switching to a release anyway no sense in making it harder with a crappy release.

walleyeman2006
05-16-2007, 06:38 PM
dont go too cheap....and the way the release contects to the string will tell you how much torque can be put on the string by a given release...either way (strap or grip)..it should give you the same shot each time..most have a swivel of some sort and that conection is where you become unconnected from the string...better the swivel the better the release...adjustable trigger pull is a must...

i use a wrist strap type but allso carry a grip in my pocket...and allso shoot the same bow with fingers...ive taught myself to draw and go to 1 finger grip too actually shoot with...

glockman55
05-16-2007, 07:47 PM
I started with the old style cheap T-handle release, then went to a wrist strap type, then I used the Winns Free Flight release.. Now I have the Carter Chocolate Addition and like it the best.

chambers
05-17-2007, 06:28 AM
dont go too cheap....and the way the release contects to the string will tell you how much torque can be put on the string by a given release...either way (strap or grip)..it should give you the same shot each time..most have a swivel of some sort and that conection is where you become unconnected from the string...better the swivel the better the release...adjustable trigger pull is a must...

i use a wrist strap type but allso carry a grip in my pocket...and allso shoot the same bow with fingers...ive taught myself to draw and go to 1 finger grip too actually shoot with...

oh man could u be ever more right... in archery it's defently " you get what u pay for": I started off with a cobra green momba. but it never felt the same to shoot from one day to the next. then i finially picked up a tru. ball black diomand extreme and within one hour i had tigher groups and more consistinsy from one day to the next.

Drop Tine
05-17-2007, 07:55 AM
I love the wrist strap style. It's much easier and smoother to draw back. A bit of advice: DO NOT get a velcro strao strap. They make noise when you pull them back. Get one with a buckle.

Lazy K
05-17-2007, 09:48 AM
I have one of the grip style releases. I can't remember the name of it or I'd post it? It has a straight rubber gas line type handle with a disk that butts up against the back of your hand. Some of you probably know which one I'm talking about. It seems easy to draw and quiet enough etc. But I've never used very many to compare it too? I do need to go to a pro shop and try a few others. I'm in the Kazoo area.

The other thing is, I'm not using a string loop. Maybe I should try one of those. It just seems like I'm not getting all that smooth of release. Could be some other factor on my set up and of course, it could be I just suck ! lol

Joe Archer
05-17-2007, 10:17 AM
I started with the wrist strap releases myself but shoot a hand held or "T-Handle" now.....
Cheap releases suck. My advice is spend a little extra and get a good one straight away. You're havin a hard time switching to a release anyway no sense in making it harder with a crappy release.
Kelly,
What are some good T-handle releases? I have been thinking about giving my fingers a break! It is just hard to switch when I have been shooting bare-handed fingers for over 20 years.
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sullyxlh
05-17-2007, 10:53 AM
I have one of the grip style releases. I can't remember the name of it or I'd post it? It has a straight rubber gas line type handle with a disk that butts up against the back of your hand.

Might be a Fletchhunter concho release by Jim Fletcher...
at least that's the description of my release
as for a loop,the advantages far out weigh the disadvantages
you would benefit to use one

Lazy K
05-17-2007, 11:36 AM
That's it. It is a Fletcher. Does that release have a good reputation?

Oct.1
05-17-2007, 12:35 PM
Lazy K,
I’ve been shooting a Jim Fletcher for 20 years now. I am on my second one because I lost my first one somewhere in the woods. I set it down someplace to clean a deer. Never could find it again. The only release I have used is Fletch Hunter. Darn Good.

Gilbey
05-18-2007, 09:19 AM
I don't use a handle release but a wrist release. I too felt that velcro was noisy as you pulled back and the tension made the velcro come to life in a bad way. I used a Tru Fire w/ velcro, went to same style with a buckle which I liked better, but ended up with a tru ball, and absolutely love it.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat21424-cat602593&id=0033071418187a&navCount=4&podId=0033071&parentId=cat602593&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=QW&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat602593&hasJS=true

I tuck my release into my jacket, pullover, or whatever while walking to and from stand, as well climbing into the tree. I leave it there until I see something of shooting interest, and pull it out as needed. Some wrist releases are not able to do this. This release is hinged to allow you to tuck it away in the opposite direction.

Highly recommend this release, it's the 4th one that I've owned, and not planning on making any changes.

Lazy K
05-18-2007, 09:45 AM
I noticed last night that the Fletcher does not have a pivoting head so I think I need a string loop? All I know is something is out of whack with my set up cause I was not shooting very well. I'd be better off sticking with my recurve than shooting like that.

sullyxlh
05-18-2007, 10:11 AM
That's it. It is a Fletcher. Does that release have a good reputation?
I've been using mine for over 20 yrs too,the same one at that,with never an issue.

I noticed last night that the Fletcher does not have a pivoting head so I think I need a string loop?
you would benefit from a loop regardless

All I know is something is out of whack with my set up cause I was not shooting very well
don't get too focused on it being the release,could be a number of other issues

cad679
05-20-2007, 08:01 PM
For the best selection of hand held releases (especially those designed for hunting) check out T.R.U. Ball. I have used a Thumb Pull for about three years for hunting and a Chappy Boss for Target. Both have served me very well.

Some of the reasons I use a hand held are not having a wrist strap to deal with while climbing, the ability to put my hand in my pocket to keep it warm and the comfort of using it.

-Brett

Kelly Johnson
05-20-2007, 08:40 PM
Well I aint tryin to ruffle feathers as I see a few guys that shoot them (and I was one for a while as well) but that Fletcher is worst of both worlds IMO.

You don't gain the benefit of spreading the weight out since it's all in your palm, and you can never shoot with a relaxed hand as the ergonomics of the design require you to grip the hell out of it or lose it.

Now I'm NOT saying you can't shoot it well, accurately or that it won't work by any stretch. If your using it and like it...don't quit.

But there are more advantageous choices out there on both sides IMO.

Kelly,
What are some good T-handle releases?
There's a lot of options out there Joe. I'm partial to Truball's Pro Diamond myself. It's a "trigger to open" as opposed to to positive click to lock like the Chappy Boss or King George. Hard to explain on here but check out the Carters....all excellent releases.

The Truball's fit my hand better is what it is for me. The Pro Diamond is like they took a mold of my hand for me.

Joe Archer
05-21-2007, 02:39 PM
I was looking at those on-line and I think they were like $99.00.
Is there anything in the $50.00 range that would be good to use with a loop?
I just don't want to drop a lot of money on something I am not sure I will stick with.
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Maverick
05-21-2007, 04:34 PM
I was looking at those on-line and I think they were like $99.00. Is there anything in the $50.00 range that would be good to use with a loop? I just don't want to drop a lot of money on something I am not sure I will stick with.
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I would try to pick up a used one (try ArcheryTalk's classifieds) and see if you like it. If you do, you can pick up a new one and use the old one as a backup.

That's what I did with a few releases, and if I didn't like them I was able to re-sell them on A.T. with little to no loss.

After trying and rejecting a few releases (including some t-handles), I ended up with a Carter Quickie (an excellent wrist strap release).

Kelly Johnson
05-21-2007, 04:46 PM
Yeah the used is a good way to go Joe.
The Pro Diamond you can get for $55-65 used. They're built like a tank.

Be leery of the $25-30 hand helds....they're a punch in the nose waiting to happen:rant:

chambers
05-21-2007, 05:17 PM
Well I aint tryin to ruffle feathers as I see a few guys that shoot them (and I was one for a while as well) but that Fletcher is worst of both worlds IMO.

You don't gain the benefit of spreading the weight out since it's all in your palm, and you can never shoot with a relaxed hand as the ergonomics of the design require you to grip the hell out of it or lose it.

Now I'm NOT saying you can't shoot it well, accurately or that it won't work by any stretch. If your using it and like it...don't quit.

But there are more advantageous choices out there on both sides IMO.


There's a lot of options out there Joe. I'm partial to Truball's Pro Diamond myself. It's a "trigger to open" as opposed to to positive click to lock like the Chappy Boss or King George. Hard to explain on here but check out the Carters....all excellent releases.

The Truball's fit my hand better is what it is for me. The Pro Diamond is like they took a mold of my hand for me.





im with you man, i tryed out 6 different ones at bass pro and the tru ball pro diamond felt like sex in a handle.. lol i mean it was good!

chambers
05-21-2007, 05:47 PM
weird timming.. here are a few on sale at at right now..



http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=500644

Kelly Johnson
05-21-2007, 07:40 PM
He's asking more than they are new though:lol:
Here's one Joe....
http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=500679
And another....
http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=500079

Buy a used Carter or Truball. They hold value. If ya don't like it often you can resell and your only out the shipping

chambers
05-21-2007, 07:58 PM
nah he's selling one with a wrist strap for 90 (it's 99 bucks new plus tax plus 20 bucks for the wrist strap) and the camo one for 80-85? with no wrist strap. good prices imo.