Fernando Rodney

[Beave]

What a friggin gas can. The guy has come in to a tie game or a game we've had the lead and given it up 3 times already. On top of that, he came into a Toronto game we had a nice lead and gave up a few runs.

He may throw 95+, but he has the most hitable (no motion) 95mph fastball I've ever seen. On top of that he struggles with control and often hangs a fastball up in the zone for hitters to jump all over.

Leyland needs to seriously consider Miller or somebody else for the primary set up man role. Rodney needs to work some kinks out of his game.

[wild bill]

jones blows it and rodney gives it away.:rant: honestly jones should have never touched the mound today. zoom should have finished out the game after only throwing 7 pitches in the eigth.

[GVSUKUSH]

Rodney has absolutely sucked this year, it's a miricle they're 9-6 with the bullpen they've had. Jones had his first "Rollercoaster" game of the year, other than that, he'd been perfect. I knew it was too good to be true:lol:

[252Life]

I really can't understand why they can't make Zum the closer. Both Rodney and Jones serve up a platter of meatballs everytime they pitch. I thought that last year the Tigers addressed the "gangster cap off to the side" thing that Rodney does. He looks like an idiot when he does that. He is a professional, act like it!

[fish eater]

Rodney has not been good so far this year. He needs to turn it around big time. Jones had been perfect, so I don't pin this one on Todd so much. What about Guillen coming up lame on 2 double plays today? Jones got the game ending DP in the 9th, but I guess Carlos had different plans on that throw.


What about the bats? Fellas, come on already! Sheff, 0 for 5. Casey has been awful, Inge has been awful, C-mo was ok today, but still hitting below 200. We got some hitters right now that are just killing us. Is McClendon teaching something different than Slaught???

Hats off to Bondo. The guy threw another absolute gem (7 innings, 3 hits, 1 run) and still got another ND so his record stays at 0-0.:(

[Beave]

The only bright spot for our hitting is that at some point a day or two ago we led the major league in walks. Patience at the plate was a huge problem for this team last year, so it's nice to see the younger guys waiting on their pitches.

That said, the hitting has been bad except for a few guys, and the bullpen other than Jones have given up too many leads. (Due in large part to Rodney).

Bonderman should've been allowed to pitch the 8th. Zumaya should've been left in for the 9th. Guillen is returning to his error-prone ways from last year.

This team has a lot of guys who need to pull it together right now. The good news is we're still winning games due to good pitching, and if we pull it all together the ceiling for this team is very high. Right now though, we're lucky we're winning at all.

[wild bill]

tigers starting rotation= 2 losses
rodney= 3 losses

[QuickStrike]

In the regular world of mortal baseball, Rodney is an outstanding pitcher--he wouldn't be in the majors if he was a chump like most of the rest of us. But when I see that dude struttin' out to the mound, with the hat turned slightly gangsta, the hair stands on the back of my neck. I'm thinkin' here we go again, another puffed up guy without the stuff to back it up. All show and no go.

[y2ba]

The only bright spot for our hitting is that at some point a day or two ago we led the major league in walks. Patience at the plate was a huge problem for this team last year, so it's nice to see the younger guys waiting on their pitches.

That said, the hitting has been bad except for a few guys, and the bullpen other than Jones have given up too many leads. (Due in large part to Rodney).

Bonderman should've been allowed to pitch the 8th. Zumaya should've been left in for the 9th. Guillen is returning to his error-prone ways from last year.

This team has a lot of guys who need to pull it together right now. The good news is we're still winning games due to good pitching, and if we pull it all together the ceiling for this team is very high. Right now though, we're lucky we're winning at all.

I agree.
Why does Jimmy take him out after he has only thrown 84 pitches? He was dominating today. As for Fernando..he does not have the velocity he did last yr..and less movement on his fastball.a bad combination. In his defense..the runs he let up against Toronto should have been tacked onto Magglios ERA.

[2ESRGR8]

Dude can't throw a first pitch strike to save his life.
It's a tough game when you're always behind in the count.

[Nascar31Fan]

What was up with Guillen on that grounder? Looks like he thought there was already 2 outs.
Jones hadn't allowed a run in his first 7 tries so I'll give him a flier on this, plus because of Guillen.

Rodney? Ugh! Guys gotta go. That half sideways hat deal makes me want to puke. Send him back to the minors and work on the mechanics again.

[Pinefarm]

I'm with Wild Bill. 7 pitches and out? The dude isn't made of glass. Let' em pitch a bit. God forbid he ever has to go 2 full innings in some huge game.
I think Rodney has great potential. But he needs to go to a more minor setting or something. And Mesa? I dunno. Man! I thought he'd be a great addition. What's his ERA? Like 20?

[Steve]

I've had it with Rodney. Send him to the minors and teach him to straighten his hat out among other things. Problem is who do you replace him with?

[mahelinski]

Starting pitcher (Innings 1-6), Zumaya (Innings 7-8), Jones (Inning 9 and 10 if needed)

[English]

Letting Jamie Walker go is looking like a real brilliant move now...NOT!

I have to say that I've never been impressed with Rodney. I may be wrong but I get the feeling he thinks he's so good he doesn't have to develop another pitch...or impove what he has.

But hey I'm just a fan!

Mike

[Steve]

Yeah, Walker was really quietly a very valuable asset who could have pitched more innings.

[Connor4501]

They play 162 games, we've no need to push any panic buttons...As bad as the hitting has been, their record could be 5-10 right now, if not worse...They'll be just fine. and you know Rodney and Mesa will not last much longer if their lackluster performance continues. This team now thrives on winning and will not put up with any roadblocks internally. That said, I wish Walker was still here...

[y2ba]

Yeah, Walker was really quietly a very valuable asset who could have pitched more innings.

yeah...other than the fact that he was a situational left handed pither...WHO COULDNT GET LEFT HANDERS OUT.

2007 stats

vs left handers .250/.724 vs right handers .133/.333

stats are ba/ops

jaimie had a decent 2006 but , the tigers will not miss him come years end.

once the bats come alive the fine pitching the staters are providing..will show in their win/loss column ...until then the staff will continue to plug along

[JAG]

Hopefully we'll see an improvement when the weather warms up. Baseball was not meant to be played in the darn winter....

[Westlakedrive]

I thought about combining two threads.
I believe... Fernando Rodney is the worst pitcher the Tigers have.

[CMR]

I pretty much agree with what everyone has said.
Whenever Jones or Rodney pitches, I get nervous. Granted, this is only the begining of the season but I hope it isn't a sign of whats to come...if so, its gonna be a LONG season.
I agree about sending Rodney down to get back to basics. He really needs to settle down and get his confidence down.

But lets not just bash the pitching, how about the hitting?
Casey is in a slump. Inge's average is junk. And what the heck is wrong with Shef? We paid how much for him? And what has he shown? Notta!!!:16suspect

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070419/SPORTS08/704190342

[Steve]

I thought about combining two threads.
I believe... Fernando Rodney is the worst pitcher the Tigers have.

I disagree, I think it's Mesa.

[D-Fresh]

One of the main problems with Rodney is that Jimmy is a huge fan of his, and because of this, I don't see Rodney getting sent down in the near future. I may be jumping the gun on this one too, but Chad Durbin must go...his stuff is average at best. I am anxiously awaiting the call up of Andrew Miller! I threw a nohitter into the 9th with 2 outs on MLB 2K6 with Miller, so he has to be good!

[Pinefarm]

It's not panic, but you always want your relievers to get outs and not come in for 1 inning and give up 2-3 quick runs, late in a game.
Good teams don't do that. The Tiger's formula for winning is, get to the 7th with a lead and then lock it down. If they can't do that, we're looking at 3rd or 4th place.
And right now, they're having some trouble doing that. They're still playing good, despite cold bats too. But they better smooth out the bullpen bumps soon. Every game they blow now still shows up in the standings in September.
The truth is, no game is less important than any other. A blown save in April means just as much as a blown save in the heat of the race in September. The W-L record at the end of the season doesn't care when the games were won or lost.

[GVSUKUSH]

I've had it with Rodney. Send him to the minors and teach him to straighten his hat out among other things. Problem is who do you replace him with?

Minor?

[Westlakedrive]

I give Mesa a pass for now. He has accomplished so much in his career and has only pitched 2.2 innings so far this year.
They have a good enough bullpen with the starting pitching they have.

[English]

yeah...other than the fact that he was a situational left handed pither...WHO COULDNT GET LEFT HANDERS OUT.

2007 stats

vs left handers .250/.724 vs right handers .133/.333

stats are ba/ops

jaimie had a decent 2006 but , the tigers will not miss him come years end.

once the bats come alive the fine pitching the staters are providing..will show in their win/loss column ...until then the staff will continue to plug along

Maybe so. However at least he got someone out. Something you can't say about Rodney or Mesa at this point.

Mike

[y2ba]

Maybe so. However at least he got someone out. Something you can't say about Rodney or Mesa at this point.

Mike

That sir...is a very good point:dizzy:

[kroppe]

Cmon Dave, go easy on the home team. Aren't you supposed to be rooting for the Royals or Cardinals or something like that??? :D :evil: :lol:

[QuickStrike]

I would tend to give Mesa more slack than Rodney. He's had a pretty impressive career in the majors, and deserves to be put out to pasture to live well after a life of valuable entertainment. Maybe you just need to know when to call it quits, although if there are teams still willing to pay him, then he should milk it for all it's worth, I guess. It's the American way.

Rodney, on the other hand, seems young and out of control. As such, I have much less patience for him.

[wild bill]

here we go again.:rant:

[giver108]

here we go again.:rant:

yup, gives Chicago the lead as usual.

[wild bill]

:rant: :rant: :rant:

once again he gives up the go ahead run without even getting an out and its not over. hes still on the mound. :Protest_e

[Connor4501]

His demotion to Toledo is only 50 miles away...I feel sorry for the Mud Hens chances if he does go down...:D

[PITBULL]

They should try using Rodney as the #5 starter, at the worst we will have 8 more innings to try and recover.

[Fins]

He needs to be bagging groceries, you could tell Leleland didn't want to put him in with Jones going in the 9th with the game tied. I would love to see him in the red and white uniforms...

On the plus side did anyone see Humberto Sanchez had Tommy John Surgery this week (IE trade for sheffield.) Cmon Shef star hitting.

[Pinefarm]

Rodney should bunk up with Mesa in Toledo until they get thier minds right. Rodney has an arm, I think he needs a mental focus.

[Trout King]

Can Him!

[Steve]

Yeah send him to Toledo, teach him how to wear his hat straight, and work on his pitch placement. Problem is I don't know who you bring up for him.

[RJF]

Good to see.

[ESOX]

Yep, he looked like himself today. Glad to see it.

[Steve]

And Jones looked like himself today too :)

[CMR]

And Jones looked like himself today too :)
Yup! :rant: