2007 e-tec 225 engine failure

[pjc600]

just wanted to know if enyone has bought a new e-tec and if they have had the same problem..

was runing about three quarter throttle stalled out did not restart for 3-5 min then ran back to the dock barely running and knocking.....
dealer says 2 burned pistons and a messed up power head :yikes: :yikes:


this engine has very few hours maybe 20 or so i find this very strange.....:help:


it is covered under warenty and being taken care of ,but still not what u want to have happen on a brand new boat......

[MSUICEMAN]

maybe just some infant mortality? who knows.

[ROBBY MEYERS]

just wanted to know if enyone has bought a new e-tec and if they have had the same problem..

was runing about three quarter throttle stalled out did not restart for 3-5 min then ran back to the dock barely running and knocking.....
dealer says 2 burned pistons and a messed up power head :yikes: :yikes:


this engine has very few hours maybe 20 or so i find this very strange.....:help:


it is covered under warenty and being taken care of ,but still not what u want to have happen on a brand new boat......


BRP is so good at takeing care of there custmers you get a new complete power head with every thing, where you take it for service?

[Priority1]

Chit happens. These sites are gr8 for information like this. It may be just a isolated incident, but who knows until people like you post the problem. I'm glad that it's being taken care of with no cost to you.:)

[UP_ROKTOY]

It can't be the Etecs are the next coming of 2 stroke engine technology. There is no way it could happen!!









































Sorry my sarcasm carried over from another board. E-Tecs seem to be good engines and they have a great warranty. **** happens.






















Coming from a Merc Owner I KNOW **** can go pop. Any HP outboard is like going to the casino.

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[JJ Mac]

I've heard mostly good things about the E-tecs thus far...what a bummer. The good news is that a lot of what you paid for is that warranty, and now it is sure paying off.

Did you get the boat last fall, or is this your first season running it? Cold water conditions sure can be rough on an engine and sometimes cause "cold seize." I always try to let the big motor warm up a long time after the first start up of the day in cold conditions. I think this can also be a big consideration during break in...although I thought I read somewhere that e-tecs didn't require much of a break-in :confused:

Hopefully they have a good tech at the dealer that will determine what happened and can get you back out on the water soon. Not sure how long you've had the boat, but you might inquire as to having the warranty extended for the new powerhead to the date the repair is done.

As frustrating as it is, try to maintain a good relationship with the dealer and the tech throughout the ordeal. Fortunately, you can probably get your boat repaired just in time before the "spring rush" where the staff is busy with other jobs. Good luck.

[stinger63]

I posted a thread about how reliable and great the etcs are over other standard outboards.
Nothing but good reviews on these engines until I just read about your mishap.Glad to hear that everything is going to be covered and they are going to stand behind the product which I also read they would.

[pjc600]

just wanted everyone to know that they are not as bullet proof that they seam..:sick:

I looked long and hard to find eny problems with e-tec and saw nothing so that is why im sharing so if someone else has the same problem they can look it up and say hey he had the same problem...



we called erie bay marina where it was purchased from and they said it was just watter in the gas that right there told me not to take it there..i told them it died, and will not restart and it was knocking,................... bad gas .....right........

the boat is at tulix marina in napolian ohio right now great guy and fast at what he does:smile-mad

evenrude wants the hole power head and pistons back for r and d so they can figure out what happened we ran only xd50 in this moter and i think we might switch to xd 100 so this wont happen again..............

[UP_ROKTOY]

just wanted everyone to know that they are not as bullet proof that they seam..:sick:

I looked long and hard to find eny problems with e-tec and saw nothing so that is why im sharing so if someone else has the same problem they can look it up and say hey he had the same problem...



we called erie bay marina where it was purchased from and they said it was just watter in the gas that right there told me not to take it there..i told them it died, and will not restart and it was knocking,................... bad gas .....right........

the boat is at tulix marina in napolian ohio right now great guy and fast at what he does:smile-mad

evenrude wants the hole power head and pistons back for r and d so they can figure out what happened we ran only xd50 in this moter and i think we might switch to xd 100 so this wont happen again..............

water in the fuel :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Riiiiiiight thanks for the help guys.

BRP will take care of ya, just make sure you go to the right dealer, which it sounds like you are doing.

xd50?xd100? I am assuming these are the oils recommended for the E-tecs?
This makes me wonder if the no break in necessary feature of the E-tecs if a trend continues could eb a flawed theory?

Are the E-Tecs oil injected or do you pre-mix? If oil injected do you think the oil injection system could have failed?

Even though I am oil injected I still run my fuel at 125:1 in case of an oil system failure. It should at least get me home.

I bleed black, but the E-Tecs are good motors and the warranty is great.

[champion_206]

just wanted everyone to know that they are not as bullet proof that they seam..:sick:

I looked long and hard to find eny problems with e-tec and saw nothing so that is why im sharing so if someone else has the same problem they can look it up and say hey he had the same problem...



we called erie bay marina where it was purchased from and they said it was just watter in the gas that right there told me not to take it there..i told them it died, and will not restart and it was knocking,................... bad gas .....right........

the boat is at tulix marina in napolian ohio right now great guy and fast at what he does:smile-mad

evenrude wants the hole power head and pistons back for r and d so they can figure out what happened we ran only xd50 in this moter and i think we might switch to xd 100 so this wont happen again.............. Did the dealer set the motor for XD50 ? that motor should only run XD100 unless the dealer set the computer to run XD50 ?

[roger23]

my neighbor just blew 2 piston on his 70 hp Evinrude dealer said water in fuel He was trying to blame anything but the motor ,the dealer had just worked on the motor..less than 10 min on motor and it blew ,,his wife works for a law firm,, the dealer is making the repairs,,,,

[JUSTCATCHINUM]

Did the dealer set the motor for XD50 ? that motor should only run XD100 unless the dealer set the computer to run XD50 ?
I have a 07 e-tec 90hp. It comes from the factory set to use XD50. To use XD100 the dealer needs to set the computer. I have about 9 hours from idle to WOT with no issues so far. It on a 20x96 mod vee Polar Kraft. I dont buy the water in the gas. Sound almost like an air leak causing a lean condition. I would also be screaming warranty. They are now offering a 6 year warranty on a new buy instead of the standard 3 year.

[pjc600]

the factory set the engine to run on xd 50 you have to have a dealer program it to run xd 100 the reprogram uses half as much oil....

but it was never programed so we ran xd 50 in it..:sick:

we trailer it so we got gas from a normal gas station and the truck got the same gas..

yes i agree with the engine going lean.

we took the cowling off when the engine died it had oil in the oil line all the way into the head and when we got it to refire it did have oil going to the head you could see it moving..

again this is being taken care of thank god and thank eveinrude for standing behind there product.

but i do belive we should have got a new engine not this one fixed, i could understand fixing it if it was two three years old not brand new..

manufacture defect...how do i know it is still not defective and have this happen again..... another two weeks or more with out a boat..

bs.bs.bs.bs. brand new this should not happen ......... :mad: :mad: :mad:

[UP_ROKTOY]

I thought you said they were giving you a brand new powerhead? That IS fixing it. They are warrantying the part that broke. If the ecm failed you wouldn't expect a whole new motor would you?

[pjc600]

i dont know about u but i have worked on my fair share of 2 stroke engines and eny time one ate a piston i found metal flakes and grit all over in the engine.. how is this 6 cld 2 stroke eny different..


they should take the hole engine for r and d


we will just hope all is fine from here on out

[roger23]

The neighbor just got his motor back from the dealer that rebuilt it ..he has the pistons one the skirt is broken and the top is full of metal from the steel rings.one of the other pistons was scuffed up real bad ..the dealer had just worked on the motor the neighbor put it in the water 10 minutes later it was dead ,,
I agree they should take the whole engine.. the neighbors motor has been nothing but trouble the fix they have done may fix the problem but if it was mine I would not be happy,,If his wife did not work for a law firm I don't think he would have gotten it fixed with a new power head,, the dealer wanted to blame it on water in the fuel ..I saw it when it was taken apart it looked like the lack of lubrication and no water was found in the fuel system..
I had a snow mobile do the same thing when the oil system failed ..

[UP_ROKTOY]

replacing the power head seems logical to me....where else in the "engine" would metal get? The exhaust tuner?

You would be getting a whole new block and rotating assembly. Using your accessories. ie starter, intake (may come on new powerhead depending on BRP's definition), pcm, exhaust tuner, midsection, lower unit, etc.

I guess I don't completely understand your posts and what it is that you want?


I have not heard about a LOT of Etec Failures, but they do seem to becoming more common as more and more are hitting the market. I just talked to a neighbor of mine Saturday night who blew his 225 e-tec at the end of last season. I don't however know the cause or the damage, but he got a new powerhead over the winter.

[semper fi]

sorry to here about your problem, but on the FLW tour it is quiet frequient but they tend to keep these things quiet so as not to sound bad to the public. I guess they are still working the bugs out, good concept but not perfect yet but what motor is!. I understand the coverage is very good and they will take care of you so good luck and good fishing

[5-alive]

If you run the E-Tecs in cold weather use the XD-100, it flows more easily than the XD-50. Have your dealer reprogram for the Xd-100. Cold weather has caused a few problems that I have heard of.

[pjc600]

If you run the E-Tecs in cold weather use the XD-100, it flows more easily than the XD-50. Have your dealer reprogram for the Xd-100. Cold weather has caused a few problems that I have heard of.


we ran the snot out of in in the cold more than a few times ...

id say like 75 percent of the engines life was cold weather...

maybe..//..//..//

[UP_ROKTOY]

we ran the snot out of in in the cold more than a few times ...

id say like 75 percent of the engines life was cold weather...

maybe..//..//..//

Speaking of cold water.....I was talking to my uncle, who has been with Merc for a number of years. He told me they lose about 3-5 engines at a walley tourney every year when it is cold(Water).

Guys will sit and idle and let the temp of the engine come up. (good so far). So the T-stat is letting "warm" water throught he engine. The horn blows and they hammer it. at 1800-2000 rpm a poppet valve opens, you bypass the t-stat and you get cold water running through the block. Shrinks the cylinder, while warming expanding piston....well you get the idea. Shctick!!

Possible this could have been the cause of your failure?

He warned me that in cold water temps to take off very slowly once I let the engine idle at the dock, get on plane, and gradually get moving. Once I give it a few minutes he said I can let her eat but to just be aware of the potential problems of running in cold water.


I am not very technical so my explanation may not be good, but something for you all to think about when running in cool water.