2007 ORV Stickers

[William H Bonney]

Went to get an ORV sticker for my ATV yesterday and every place still had 06 stickers. I'm not buying a sticker for 60 days since I really only used it for ice fishing,,, does anyone know when the 07 stickers are available???? I've scoured the DNR website for the last hour with no answer on their site(surprise,surprise:rolleyes: )

[olddog413]

the 06 orv stickers expired on 03-31-06. It has the date right on the sticker. So you can buy a new one for 07, or take a chance on not getting caught.

[D-Fresh]

The '06 stickers expire on 3/31/07! The ATV stickers have been like this for YEARS, we always get stuck in the same situation buying on at this time of year. The licenses are still good for a one year span, but the schedule doesn't fit those who just use their ATV's during the winter months. They should change this so there is no confusion. Make 07 stickers good for all of 07. I think they do this because all of the licenses change over 3/31, but come on, everything is computerized, I don't think it would be much of a problem to change it!

[William H Bonney]

I know when the current ones expire,, all I wanna know is if anyone knows when the 07 ones are available.

[D-Fresh]

I know when the current ones expire,, all I wanna know is if anyone knows when the 07 ones are available.

4/1/07 would be my guess! They don't sell 07 stickers before the 06 expire!

[adam bomb]

id say after march 31. a friend talked to a bait shop owner and he said he cant sell 07 fishing licenses until then. must be because of the price increases that are supposed to take place. i bet the ORV sticker is gonna get looped in there too. just a thought.

[William H Bonney]

4/1/07 would be my guess! They don't sell 07 stickers before the 06 expire!


:lol: Ya they do,,, always have. It's usually right around this time. I think A-Bomb is on to something though,,,,,,, about the increase:rant: Guess I'll grab one for 16 and some change while I can.

[olddog413]

Duh, and i even went out to the garage before I posted to look at my sticker. I feel like an idiot....Mine did say it expired on 3-31-06, trouble is, it was an 05 sticker. I didn't use the quad last winter due to poor ice. Sorry to misinform anyone.

[Ninja]

New stickers go on sale 3/1/07, as do most other licenses.

[Ninja]

The '06 stickers expire on 3/31/07! The ATV stickers have been like this for YEARS, we always get stuck in the same situation buying on at this time of year. The licenses are still good for a one year span, but the schedule doesn't fit those who just use their ATV's during the winter months. They should change this so there is no confusion. Make 07 stickers good for all of 07. I think they do this because all of the licenses change over 3/31, but come on, everything is computerized, I don't think it would be much of a problem to change it!

What does the scheduling have to do with it?
You're gonna spend the 16.25 once a year no matter when you buy it.....

[D-Fresh]

What does the scheduling have to do with it?
You're gonna spend the 16.25 once a year no matter when you buy it.....

I realize that...my point was to avoid confusion because some people get confused that the 06 sticker is still valid for 3 months in 07.

[Marrble Eyes]

When you elect your Governor that was born in Canada, raised in Kalifornia and educated in Detroit What do you expect?:lol:


:sick:

[WALLEYE MIKE]

When you elect your Governor that was born in Canada, raised in Kalifornia and educated in Detroit What do you expect?:lol:


:sick:

Care to explain?:confused: She has nothing to do with the ORV stickers expiration dates. Been like that for years.

[Ninja]

I realize that...my point was to avoid confusion because some people get confused that the 06 sticker is still valid for 3 months in 07.

Gotcha.....it would be less confusing to have it all work from calendar year.....maybe it has something to do with their fiscal year.....???

[alex-v]

Fishing license, small game license, ORV reigistration, and boat registration all expire on March 31st. Plan ahead and get the stickers and licenses all on the same day. The new ones for 2007 will be available on March 1st.

As Walleye Mike said, it has been this way long before Granholm was in office.

[Banditto]

I think where the confusion above comes in is snowmobile trail stickers are issued around this time. I bought the 07 last week.

It is a sticker/stamp/license quagmire.

[alex-v]

Seems to me that they should make the snowmobile trail stickers expire on the same schedule as all the others just to help avoid the confusion. From the DNR web site:
Snowmobile Trail Permits

Snowmobile Trail Permit:

In addition to registration of a snowmobile in Michigan or from another state or province, a person who desires to operate a snowmobile in this state needs to purchase a snowmobile trail permit sticker. The snowmobile trail permit sticker is valid for 1 year which begins October 1 and ends September 30 of the following year.

Then, there are the exceptions for those who do not need the sticker.

[Houghton laker]

Not to change the subject....but the thing that really pisses me off is I do not need a trail pass for my snowmachine because I go from private property...out onto the lake for fishing....then back onto private property.......but I still need a ORV sticker on the 4-wheeler even though I don't ride it off road anywhere????:rant:

[Banditto]

No the trail sticker has little to do with the state, other than they can issue fines if you don't own one. It is really a disgrace what has become of our state as far as recreational use requirements.

[alex-v]

No the trail sticker has little to do with the state, other than they can issue fines if you don't own one.
Explain, please. It sounds like you are saying that it is an entirely different permit than the other permits that we have to get.

[woodie slayer]

When you elect your Governor that was born in Canada, raised in Kalifornia and educated in Detroit What do you expect?:lol:




:sick:



this sticker lawwas put into effect by gov. Engler

[Banditto]

Explain, please.

Go to the secretary of state and try to buy a trail sticker. You can't. The state doesn't sell them.

I pay registration on my truck so I can drive on the streets. I pay registration on the boat so I can drive it on the lake. I pay registration on my snowmobile but guess what....

[Marrble Eyes]

Arg, I gots to go get plates for two Trucks next week.

Money grubbing socialist pigs anyhow!:rant:

The trail permit deal for a Snowmobile is BS to begin with. You PAY to get the registration. Hello, WHAT the heck for? You still have to purchase a trail permit even if you don't ride a trail. Get caught on a lake without one. The Revenuers will burn your ****.

[Houghton laker]

Arg, I gots to go get plates for two Trucks next week.

You still have to purchase a trail permit even if you don't ride a trail. Get caught on a lake without one. The Revenuers will burn your ****.


Nope....I've been checked a few times on Houghton....I just tell them I ride from my cottage on the lake to my fishing spots....and they say fine...your all set!!;) You can't do that with a ORV though.....they want that $$

[muddman55]

Nope....I've been checked a few times on Houghton....I just tell them I ride from my cottage on the lake to my fishing spots....and they say fine...your all set!!;) You can't do that with a ORV though.....they want that $$ your right there its one of those exceptions listed on DNR web site trail sticker not required for ice fishing just don't get caught on designated TRAILS

[alex-v]

Go to the secretary of state and try to buy a trail sticker. You can't. The state doesn't sell them.
Looks like it is a DNR permit just like a fishing license is a DNR license. We can't go to the Secretary of State to buy our hunting and fishing licenses but we go to the license dealers. (Can you imagine trying to buy a fishing license in person at a Secretary of State office??).

You still have to purchase a trail permit even if you don't ride a trail.
Looks like there are exceptions to that. A permit is not needed if the snowmobile is operated on private lands. Then there is the exception if the machine is used strictly for fishing. And, some other exceptions for racing machines.

DNR - Snowmobile Trail Permits (http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10365_14824-32299--,00.html)

What they need looks like a "lifetime" trail permit good for as long as the person owns that snowmobile.

[duckman#1]

ORV sticker ice fishing?
I just talked with a DNR officer last week in person. His (officers) name is Larry and is from the Midland post. I asked if I need a ORV sticker to unload my atv and ride it on the lake for ice fishing. He said NO YOU DO NOT need a ORV sticker for your atv IF using only for ice fishing. PERIOD!

[Houghton laker]

ORV sticker ice fishing?
I just talked with a DNR officer last week in person. His (officers) name is Larry and is from the Midland post. I asked if I need a ORV sticker to unload my atv and ride it on the lake for ice fishing. He said NO YOU DO NOT need a ORV sticker for your atv IF using only for ice fishing. PERIOD!



That's not what I heard...and On Houghton lake that is one of the first things they'll check for!! According to them....Any 4 wheeler or 3-wheeler MUST have a ORV sticker !!

[Houghton laker]

I just read through the dnr listings on ORV's and it says orv liscence are required on atv's that travel on public land and/ or on public frozen waters....and that this was another way to stream in additional needed funds!

[lkmifisherman]

Here is a link to the site that says you do not need a ORV sticker to operate on the frozen surfaces of a lake .....This only applies to LICENSED road vehicles... Quads and 3 wheelers aren't and can't be licensed...So technically you are both right......


http://www.offroad-ed.com/mi/handbook/register.htm


LMF :fish:

[alex-v]

I do not own either a snowmobile or an ATV but just in case I do change my mind it has been interesting reading the thread.

It seems that we are talking two different permits here. One is the trail permit for snowmobiles and the other is the ORV sticker (which also is not needed if the vehicle is operated entirely on private lands).

Let me throw another question into the pot and stir the discussion. Is the ORV sticker needed for 2 wheel vehicles like dirt bikes or small motorcycles before they can be used on the ice? (We saw a couple of couples going out last week using a scooter to pull the shanty and the girls were riding on the shanty.)

OK, found the wording in the link provided a couple of msgs above:
Note: An ORV license is not required for street-licensed vehicles used on the frozen surface of public waters or designated ORV routes.

[roger23]

Here is a link to the site that says you do not need a ORV sticker to operate on the frozen surfaces of a lake .....This only applies to LICENSED road vehicles... Quads and 3 wheelers aren't and can't be licensed...So technically you are both right......


http://www.offroad-ed.com/mi/handbook/register.htm


LMF :fish:
Thanks I use a old go cart to fish the COLDWATER chain of lakes ,I never had a sticker I leave and return on private property .but it sounds like I need a ORV sticker.

[duckman#1]

A DNR officer told me its ok not to have one ice fishing, I mentioned the name and location of the officer. I didn't use "hear say". Thats good enough for me. Go spend money on a sticker good for a few weeks then...its your money...

[lkmifisherman]

The way I understand it....If it is licensed for the road then it doesn't need a sticker. I am not sure but I have never seen a moped with a license so it would need a sticker....

LMF :fish:

[Ausable Junkie]

Just like my high school government teacher told me, if you're unsure about
a law, test it. When you have ur court date, the judge will do all the
interpreting for you. :lol:

[Houghton laker]

here is one part I copied and I'll post the other in a minute....notice it says you do not need a ORV if you vehicle is already liscensed for the road!!


Note: An ORV license is not required for street-licensed vehicles used on the frozen surface of public waters or designated ORV routes.

[Houghton laker]

lets see if this works....It should be on pg. 8.......as stated....I'll pay and stay out of court!

But I hope they make it clearer Duckman....I would prefer not to have to pay because I strictly use mine for Icefishing!!!!





http://www.michigan.gov/documents/CoverToPage11_133076_7.pdf

[muddman55]

ORV sticker ice fishing?
I just talked with a DNR officer last week in person. His (officers) name is Larry and is from the Midland post. I asked if I need a ORV sticker to unload my atv and ride it on the lake for ice fishing. He said NO YOU DO NOT need a ORV sticker for your atv IF using only for ice fishing. PERIOD! huh than what was the $60. ticket my buddy got on lake Ovid for?

[D-Fresh]

We have also recieved a ticket for not having an ORV sticker...we picked it up on the way to go fishing, but forgot to put it on the 4wheeler....still got a ticket!!! This was on the saginaw bay fyi

[alex-v]

...we picked it up on the way to go fishing, but forgot to put it on the 4wheeler....still got a ticket!!! This was on the saginaw bay fyi
Because the 4-wheeler cannot be street legal. Have to go back to the part of the msg the Houghton Laker posted:
Note: An ORV license is not required for street-licensed vehicles used on the frozen surface of public waters or designated ORV routes.
So, the ORV has to be street licensed to be exempt from the need to have the sticker when being used to go from private property onto a frozen lake. Since 4-wheelers are not allowed to be licensed for street use then they need the sticker. Two wheeled ORV, as in dirt bikes, can be licensed for the street, so that is where the exemption comes in. I am pretty sure that the CO that Duckman talked to was considering that part of the law.

What we need is for Duckman to contact Larry from the Midland "post" and ask him to interpret the law after considering whether 4-wheelers can be street legal.

[Houghton laker]

because of there low pressured tires they cannot be street legal!

[duckman#1]

I clearly stated a "quad atv" to him. I don't need to call him. I got a answer from a officer that has the power to write the tickets.
Any one here is welcome to call the Midland office and ask for him. Their number is on the DNR web site.

You can mention to him I spoke with him at the Huntin Expo at the Delta Plex.

Like I said earlier, go spend the money if it helps you sleep at night.:rolleyes:

[suckerbass]

man I just read everything on the the dnr site and I cant find anything that says you need an orv sticker for frozen lakes.. I have allways heard you needed one but its not in the hadbook. like others have sayed it does say you dont need one if its a street-licensed vehicle but thats it. The dnr would have a hard time if you fought the ticket. But for $16 I dont think I its a good gamble.
;)

[HOangler]

Right or wrong, if an officer writes you ticket and you go pay for it, do you think the people you are giving your money to are going to say "wait just a minute here, I think this ticket is wrong."?:lol: If you are not a lawyer, or can't afford one, or think it ain't worth it, you are probably going to pay the ticket that is writen you. You may be able to fight it yourself, but you are going to have to take a time (which is money) to fight it yourself. And then the judge or whoever is going to make a judgement even before you get your 2 cents in. These people in law enforcement are in a club all of their own :smile-mad , and unless you "know" someone you're going to pay if writen.

[stampman]

3 yrs ago stopping at the DNR office on Rt.2 up on the PM. Asking the ? if I unload my Atv on the ice to go ice fishing do I need a sticker. 2 officer said ( believe it or not ) it depends on the officer. I wanted to know watch the law was. They said it depended on the what the office thinks the law means. Could not get a exact answer.:dizzy:

[alex-v]

Why not just ask the question directly to the DNR using the "Ask the DNR" option on their web pages. I did that even though I do not own an ORV or snowmobile or quad or 3-wheeler. Anyways, the reply I got was:

Response (Tami Pullen) 02/06/2007 03:22 PM
Mr. V--,

Reference your inquiry regardless on how you access the frozen water your atv must have an orv license/sticker to operate on the ice.


You can also use the DNR web site to contact the senior CO in the area you are going to be visiting and/or using your ORV. Their names and addresses and phone numbers are listed by office.

[chad 1]

I use my quad for more then just icefishing so I buy the permit every year. Just like buying a car plate.

chad1

[Captain]

I always thought that if you were accessing the frozen water by a state owned ramp or facility that you needed to have an ORV sticker, but if you were coming on from private property it didn't matter. The last few years we have bought them just to be safe. Good Thing, :eek: because there were 4 COs checking everyone coming off the ice last night at Brest Bay. Ticketing for expired or No ORV stickers and this was at a Private marina/access point...:rolleyes:

[duckman#1]

4 CO's? at one place? :rolleyes: How many people fish at this place anyway? How many CO's does this county have?

[Captain]

4 CO's? at one place? :rolleyes: How many people fish at this place anyway? How many CO's does this county have?

This weekend? Alot Not sure how many COs Monroe county has but since Lake Erie is considered one of the best Walleye fisheries in the world and it only ices up every few years, I'm pretty sure they are well represented.:dizzy:

[Houghton laker]

4 CO's? at one place? :rolleyes: How many people fish at this place anyway? How many CO's does this county have?



Come down to alter rd. some day when the walleye are bitting and look at all the dnr at that ramp and through the canals looking for violators!!! As I stated before....the first thing they do on Houghton lake is look at the back of the vehicle for the sticker!! I still feel we should not have to purchase one being we are not driving the trails!! But I pay the 16.50.....cheaper than the ticket!!

[alex-v]

I clearly stated a "quad atv" to him. I don't need to call him. I got a answer from a officer that has the power to write the tickets.
Any one here is welcome to call the Midland office and ask for him. Their number is on the DNR web site.

You can mention to him I spoke with him at the Huntin Expo at the Delta Plex.

Like I said earlier, go spend the money if it helps you sleep at night.:rolleyes:
Like I said earlier it is not my money since I do not own an ORV or similar vehicle. But, I did do some research by contacting the DNR through their web site and I have posted their response.

Today I heard from Lt. Ronald Utt of the Bay City office which covers Midland and his response was:
To operate an ORV on the frozen surface of a lake you do need an ORV sticker.

[Burksee]

LOL! They do seem to have it all backwards. The ORV stickers expire in March and Snomobile Registrations expire in September! It don't make a heck of a lot of sense to me either. :confused: