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Slick fishing
01-21-2007, 04:25 PM
Hey guys I wanna get the Liqua-lube system but I need some info about the spindle size and hub opening and seal size and since my boat is in storage kinda hard to do.. I am going to call EZ loader on monday and they could tell me but I figured it must be a standard size and I figure some one on this website would know so I know what Liqua-Lube to buy..

Here is my trailer 2002 EZloader single axle trailer Model#stc90b

http://www.liqualube.com/ and here is a instalation video incase anyone is interested pretty easy www.walleyecentral.com/video thanks guys if any of you know the info I may be looking for.. Cya Slick




bigcountrysg
01-21-2007, 05:49 PM
Hey slick that stuff looks pretty good. I never heard of them before. I may have to check them out for my trailer that I haul my quads on. I get into some muddy areas and with the salt and snow in the winter. I appreciate you putting that link there. I never would have found out about this product. Thanks man.

Slick fishing
01-21-2007, 05:56 PM
Heck that other link will show you how to install it as well, Cool Huh:lol: Cya Slick

walleye magnet
01-21-2007, 06:57 PM
That is a great looking product. I always wonder about the bearings on my trailers. Slick, do you know anyone that uses them?

Walleye Magnet

Slick fishing
01-21-2007, 07:03 PM
That is a great looking product. I always wonder about the bearings on my trailers. Slick, do you know anyone that uses them?

Walleye Magnet

No I dont know anyone that owns them but all of my research thru the internet has show that everyone loves them.. I am looking forward to having them on my trailer this summer.. Cya Slick

jpollman
01-21-2007, 07:49 PM
Those look pretty good to me. But I think if I were going to order a set I would want to have the trailer accessible and a caliper and or micrometer to double check the measurements before ordering anything. I would want to know FOR SURE what size I had. On more than one occasion I've run into the situation of "Well, it's SUPPOSED to be this size" when it's actually another. And the other favorite.... Drive an hour one way to pick something up only to find it was not in stock even though I called ahead to check. I got the standard "Well the computer says we have it". From that day forward I make the person actually lay their hands on it before I get in the car. ;)

jpollman
01-21-2007, 08:05 PM
I was just thinking about my "Those look pretty good to me" comment. I may have to rescind that. Here's a hypothetical situation. You're driving down the road at speed and hit a pot hole or maybe a piece of debris gets kicked up and destroys the cap on that thing. The oil would be gone in seconds. You may not notice it for a long time. By the time you do those bearings will have been running at speed un-lubed and probably shot. Ok, same situation with grease. You lose the cap and it's gone. You may get some dirt in the hub which isn't good but at least you've still got grease in there. You could still continue your trip without much risk of damage. Even if you didn't notice the cap missing until you got home you'd probably be OK. With the oil-bath system I don't think you'd be so lucky.

I think I'll stay with grease.

John

Slick fishing
01-21-2007, 08:17 PM
I was just thinking about my "Those look pretty good to me" comment. I may have to rescind that. Here's a hypothetical situation. You're driving down the road at speed and hit a pot hole or maybe a piece of debris gets kicked up and destroys the cap on that thing. The oil would be gone in seconds. You may not notice it for a long time. By the time you do those bearings will have been running at speed un-lubed and probably shot. Ok, same situation with grease. You lose the cap and it's gone. You may get some dirt in the hub which isn't good but at least you've still got grease in there. You could still continue your trip without much risk of damage. Even if you didn't notice the cap missing until you got home you'd probably be OK. With the oil-bath system I don't think you'd be so lucky.

I think I'll stay with grease.

John

Well John not bad but it has all ready happened to a tournament pro and guess what the bearing still where not burned up because of the synthetic nature of the oil.. They also do make a metal cap to cover the clear cap in case you where scared they where going to break..

Well I did some long reading in threads of happy customer on walleye centeral and I have not seen one person that did not like it.. Anything can happen but I really like the oil bath method.. Cya Slick

PS..No I havent gotten the pictures off my phone yet John:lol: I am working on it kinda like I havent decided what we are going to eat for the walleye tournament yet eighter I am working on it:lol:

double trouble
01-21-2007, 09:14 PM
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0035004018052a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=trailer+hub&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=trailer+hub&noImage=0

liquid hubs have been around for a long time especially in the trucking industry.they are proven to last a long time they also give higher gasoline mileage due to their lower friction. i have seen some reports of failures too.I don't believe that a "dry " bearing held up very long, synthetic lube or not. is this the same infomercial that had a "dry" motor run for 3 days. Just kidding.
I would still carry a spare hub if you travel long distances.

liqua-lube is only one of many brands.if your spindles are in really good shape ,you could probably use almost any brand. I just don't trailer enough to justify the expense.you can be our guinea pig.

sea nympho
01-21-2007, 09:58 PM
...You're driving down the road at speed and hit a pot hole or maybe a piece of debris gets kicked up and destroys the cap on that thing. The oil would be gone in seconds. You may not notice it for a long time. By the time you do those bearings will have been running at speed un-lubed and probably shot. Ok, same situation with grease. You lose the cap and it's gone. You may get some dirt in the hub which isn't good but at least you've still got grease in there. You could still continue your trip without much risk of damage. Even if you didn't notice the cap missing until you got home you'd probably be OK. With the oil-bath system I don't think you'd be so lucky.

I think I'll stay with grease.

John



I've had two trailer bearing malfunctions on my trailer (one in remote Obntario and another time in Florida) because I had fancy crap bearing buddys and another system that channled lube through the axle. They both SUCK, broke and left me high & dry and I will only ever use regular grease and bearing cap setups(carry extra caps or use pop can if you lose one). Problem with the fancy stuff are those protruding caps, which on the dirt/stone logging trails of Ontario, get blown off by rocks/gravel and you don't even know. And if your cap does come off, you will not make it more than an hour or two, as this is what happened to me. My advice, stick with the simple mechanisms and do your annual maintenance, since I switched back to reg bearing setups I've pulled my boat to Canada and back 3 times no problem. The time in Canada I put bearing buddies on because I thought it was a good idea(it's not, as those "buddies" have springs that pressurize your grease and blow out the rear seals) Then I got a whole new axle with the fancy setup and it failed in Florida, where a mechanic reminded me of the K.I.S.S. principal. Good luck.

Just_One_More
01-21-2007, 11:13 PM
Someone said that the grease will stay in when the caps come off. I wish that happened to me I had my caps come off three times and I put on a new cap after each time because the other one was gone and they would go on hard everytime and you couldn't just pull them off you had to hit them with a hammer to take them off. And everything my caps came off the grease would be flung all over the rim and side of the boat. The thrid time of my metal cap coming off and the thrid time I was down fishing saginaw bay and it came off in a 10 mile run and all the grease flung out and I seized the outer bearing. After that I put the liqua-lube bearings on which was 2004. I changed and packed my bearings every year and just before that trip I put new grease in didn't re-pack but put new in. The biggest problem is no matter what with grease you will almost always get some what in the grease when you launch which breaks down the grease. The liqua-lube can actually hold upto 40% water and still lubercate properly. My bearings always used to run warm to the touch. I think part of the reason the 18' lund is the biggest boat they put on single axle. So I put Liqua-lube on after the trip in July to Saginaw bay in 2004. I put the liqua-lubes on and now no matter how far the drive to the fishing location is the hubs are nice and cool not like they used to be, warm. I bought them online at www go-marine.com/coast/do/catalog/page?dealerId=66&pageNum=477 I can't post URLS because I don't have 15 posts so you have to conect the two parts. The cap doesn't stick out more than maybe a inch of the small metal caps. It doesn't stick out past the wheel so damge to the cap would be hard to do. I haven't had a problem yet (knock on wood) and I took quite a few trips to saginaw bay this year which is about 100 mile trip. And with liqua lube you can use 90 weight oil instead of the actual stuff that comes with it. I love the liqua-lube design. Much better than grease.

jpollman
01-21-2007, 11:26 PM
I'll clarify my statement a litte bit. I didn't mean to imply that you can just run around witout a cap on and it will be ok. Yes you will lose grease. But it won't run out almost instantly like a liquid lubricant will do. You would still have to replace the cap and regrease ASAP but I think you'd have a much better chance running that way than with next to no lube at all. That's all I was trying to say.

John

Slick fishing
01-21-2007, 11:46 PM
I'll clarify my statement a litte bit. I didn't mean to imply that you can just run around witout a cap on and it will be ok. Yes you will lose grease. But it won't run out almost instantly like a liquid lubricant will do. You would still have to replace the cap and regrease ASAP but I think you'd have a much better chance running that way than with next to no lube at all. That's all I was trying to say.

John

Hey there John you made agood point, the thing is I read thru so many threads on diffrent sites and I would say about 95% of the people said they loved this system and I figure it dont cost that much so why not give it a try.. Cya Slick