How to put up a ladderstand and make almost theft proof

[swampbuck62]

ALMOST!!

In light of all the stolen stand threads I see each year I decided to post how I hang mine

I use buddy stands on my property. I currently have 5 of them out. They stay out year round and I almost never move them. The deer are use to seeing them a pay them very little attention.

First thing I do is toss all the chicken crap straps that come with them. I buy a good sized chain not quite a logging chain but big. I also buy a large turnbuckle and good quality lock. [Do not skimp on the lock]
Now figuer out where your going to put the stand because buddies are a biyatch to move with out a 4 wheeler[I ues my tractor] Anyway lean your stand against a suitable tree and secure about halfway up with a rope. Next stand on the bottom rung and jump up and down on it. [I know you already know this] Make sure it's level. Climb up don't forget your chain ,lock and turnbuckle. Oh and you did bring a wrench for the turn buckle?
Next wrap the chain around the tree making sure it's level or a little above level. Wrap the chain through the frame work of the stand and pull it as tight as you can. Attach the turnbuckle and start tightening it[don't bend the stand] The chain will bite into the tree. At this point you could remove the ladder and it would hang there like a lock-on.[but don't I know duh!]Wiggle the stand a little if it will and tighten the turnbuckle a little more. Next put the lock on the chain and your done. Now sometimes I will put another chain and lock at the base of the stand if there is another tree close by to chain it to.
Of course someone could still steal it but it would really be a pain. Use heavy duty chain and locks. It would take the largest bolt-cutter's or a ton of sweat and broken hacksaw blades. To steal one of my stands. http://www.tndeer.com/ubb/NonCGI/mad.gif

[bigcountrysg]

Well that is a good way but for people like me with a hanging stand. If it is on your own property. I put lag bolts through the chain links when I attach it to the tree. My buddy did not do the lag bolt through the link thing and his stand came up missing this fall. On his own property about 30 yards from my stand. They were the same stand too.

[swampbuck62]

Just shows you it's the details that matter most. I also have a lock-on I put up the same way. The problem is it's been up for 3 years and chain has grow into the tree.:lol: I'll never get it down.:dizzy:

[bigcountrysg]

Yes you can just cut the tree down. :lol: :lol:

[swampbuck62]

Yes you can just cut the tree down. :lol: :lol:

Thought about that. My luck it would fall on the stand and smash it.:lol:

[jackbob42]

.......... The problem is it's been up for 3 years and chain has grow into the tree.:lol: I'll never get it down.:dizzy:

Mine was grown into the tree also. But , they cut the chain on both sides and took it anyway !

[One Eye]

Yes you can just cut the tree down. :lol: :lol:
Don't laugh. I have had this done to me already.

Dan

[tdejong302]

I like the lag bolt idea. I combine this with a lock and haven't lost any. Have had guys try to take the stand however then they realized dah!!!!!!!!!!its chained, lagged and locked. Fricken crooks. :rant:

[malaki]

I designed a treestand and had my brother fabricate it for me. The design is a platform of 2" wide strips of 1/4" iron welded to two pieces of 3" channel iron 6" apart. The Channel Iron is cut and welded at 90 degrees to form the upright portion of the treestand which is lag bolted to the tree. I had my brother fabricate special heads on the bolts and a special tool on the end of a 3/8" socket drive extension for install/uninstall. The heads are driven past the inside of the channel iron so theives cannot get any other tool on the rounded head of the lag bolts, theres not enough room between the channel for working any tool.

The treestand is very heavy because of the steel/iron material, I also have to use a seperate seat because it is only a platform. I think the thief would have second thoughts if he was ever able to get it off the tree. The weight makes installation difficult but the satisfaction and peace of mind is worth it to me.

I've been using this stand for four years now and it is very solid and there isn't any noise what so ever. I hunt on heavily pressured state land and it hasn't came up missing yet. The reason I made this stand is because I had two stands stolen in one year.

I'll try to post a shop drawing of this stand with the post so you have a better idea.

[maliki]

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/500/thumbs/Treetand_Shop_Drawing.JPG (http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=53821&limit=recent)
Don't Know how big this drawing will be. Forgive me if it's to big on the screen.

[BUCKWIZZARD]

I like to glue razzor blades to the ladder on the back side.

[maliki]

Thought of the razor blade idea, but didn't want to take the chance of forgetting about them myself. It wouldn't be to good to climb into your stand only to realize you can't pull the trigger on your release.

[Rustyaxecamp]

I like to glue razzor blades to the ladder on the back side.
Good way to get sued.




Leaving ladderstands on public land is a bad idea. I have found that leaving a hang on and carrying in the climbing stick is a lot easier and almost guarentees it will be there.

[maliki]

Has anyone ever tried using climbing spikes to scale trees?

[goemado]

I designed a treestand and had my brother fabricate it for me. The design is a platform of 2" wide strips of 1/4" iron welded to two pieces of 3" channel iron 6" apart. The Channel Iron is cut and welded at 90 degrees to form the upright portion of the treestand which is lag bolted to the tree. I had my brother fabricate special heads on the bolts and a special tool on the end of a 3/8" socket drive extension for install/uninstall. The heads are driven past the inside of the channel iron so theives cannot get any other tool on the rounded head of the lag bolts, theres not enough room between the channel for working any tool.

The treestand is very heavy because of the steel/iron material, I also have to use a seperate seat because it is only a platform. I think the thief would have second thoughts if he was ever able to get it off the tree. The weight makes installation difficult but the satisfaction and peace of mind is worth it to me.

I've been using this stand for four years now and it is very solid and there isn't any noise what so ever. I hunt on heavily pressured state land and it hasn't came up missing yet. The reason I made this stand is because I had two stands stolen in one year.

I'll try to post a shop drawing of this stand with the post so you have a better idea.

You're lag bolting a tree stand to a tree on public land? Isn't that a no-no? I may be wrong.

[maliki]

I don't know:confused: . Please, if anyone knows about this I would like to be informed. I just thought the screw-in tree steps are not legal. I consider it the same as a T-bolt, only difference is that I use four. I take them out on the last day of season, they are not permanent stands.

If it isn't legal I'll design a new stand with one of the special head lag bolts and a modified T-handle to unscrew it.

[Liver and Onions]

The answer that you're not going to like is on page 33 of your '06 Hunting guide.

L & O

[maliki]

OK, here it is:
If you hunt on public land, your tree stand must be portable and your name
and address must be affixed in legible English that can be easily read from the ground. Hunting platforms cannot be affixed or attached to any tree by nails, screws or bolts; however, a “T” bolt or similar device supplied by a tree stand manufacturer can be used.

I will revise my design to accept only one large bolt with a large rectangular slip washer. This bolt and washer will be fitted between a small piece of channel iron which is welded between the vertical channels. This should distribute the pressure to a large area. The position between the channel iron will stop any tool from clamping onto the special head. I will drill a hole into the special head to accomodate a piece of round stock, thus creating the "T" bolt. The round stock can be inserted at anytime but can be only as long as the channel width, not long enough to afford any leverage to back the bolt out. Of course I'll have to add a ratchet strap on the top for stability.

I'll start on a new design and post in a little while.

[Thunderhead]

The same guys that make the Bow Legger also make a locking cable for stands.
This is the mother of all security devices. Extremely thick cable with a plastic coating to protect from the weather.

You'll ruin a new pair of bolt cutters or strip the teeth right off a hacksaw blade trying to cut it.
The only way you'd get thru it that I've found is either a torch or a grinder.

[JWICKLUND]

Looking at all your ideas I had to laugh. I have been on quite a few missing stand complaints. The majority of the stands taken are because of not securing it at all or just hiding it in the leaves.
Stands on public lands have to have names on them, but a suprising number of stands I see on private land don't have any id on them at all.
It is hard to recover a stand when we have no idea who it belongs to. I find stands abandoned all the time and they go to auction.

[maliki]

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Revised_Stand.JPG (http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=53899&size=big&cat=500)

[maliki]

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/500/Rev_Stand.JPG (http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=53900)

[BUCKWIZZARD]

Good way to get sued.




Leaving ladderstands on public land is a bad idea. I have found that leaving a hang on and carrying in the climbing stick is a lot easier and almost guarentees it will be there. I wouldnt think of doing it on public land but no doubt do it on private. I HATE THEIVES

[Bulletproof]

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[Rustyaxecamp]

I wouldnt think of doing it on public land but no doubt do it on private. I HATE THEIVES

I hate them also, but I'm pretty sure even on private land you can get sued for something like that.