k-9's produced

[frostbite]

The K-9 sets I put out produced everything but a k-9. I'm so sick of skinning skunks:sad: 1 coon, 1 huge buck mink and 3 stinkers. I was low on dispatch antidote on the last skunk and it just put him to sleep, so in a pinch I had to wrap him up in a garbage bag for a while:yikes: It was touch and go for a few minutes, but I escape smelling nice and fresh. (his aim was off) Anyhow he is skinned, fleshed and stretched now. I'm sure a few of you would have died laughing at me today. I'd love to go into detail, but it's probably not the place to post all the details.
I figure that maybe I'll catch some K-9's once I get the stinkers out of the way, but then there are the grinners too.

[walkercoonhunter]

Good luck on th K9s. We set our first 3 last week, produced 1 red squirrel. WOW

[mydogisscout]

try snares, they've been outproducing our steel sets 7;1 on red fox.

[frostbite]

I have a hard time believing you can hold a red fox in a legal snare. I quit using snares two years ago when the regulations changed. About the only time I would use a snare anymore is under ice beaver sets. I have a fur shed full of old snares I've been planning to re-rig as drowning slides for coon. I would like to see the regs change on loop size, maybe I would use them again.

[Rumajz]

What about snare for yotes? Are the loops too big for them too or just fox?

[franky]

I have heard many times, more losses than catches when it came to snaring yotes. If the yote doesnt get his leg in, i would say that he is going to get out of the snare just by pulling back. The skull of a coyote is smaller than the loop of the modern snares so they just slip right out.

[Dave Lyons]

I would really like to see a pic of this legal snare holding a fox. And if your setting them right now. That is just another law I guess that has been over looked.

Dave

[Joe R.]

:yeahthat:

[wild bill]

I would really like to see a pic of this legal snare holding a fox. And if your setting them right now. That is just another law I guess that has been over looked.

Dave


i was thinking the same thing.

[mydogisscout]

my neighbor has been snaring foxes I don't know the dimensions of his snares, nor have I seen them, I do know that he's caught 7 foxes to my 1

[Bmac]

my neighbor has been snaring foxes I don't know the dimensions of his snares, nor have I seen them, I do know that he's caught 7 foxes to my 1

Snaring is not legal until Jan 1.

Here is a cut and paste from the DNR site. http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10363_10880_10996-31680--,00.html

Winter Fox and Coyote Non-Lethal Snaring

Non-lethal snares may be used from January 1 through March 1 to take fox and coyotes, provided:

Snares are not placed on publicly owned land or commercial forest lands.

All snares in possession or carried afield must have a metallic identification tag attached which is affixed with the owner's or user's name and address or Michigan Driver License number.

Steel cable 1/16 - inch or larger is used.

The snare loop does not exceed 15 inches in diameter.

The top of the snare loop is not placed more than 24 inches above the ground (In snow, 24 inches is measured from the compacted snow in a trapper's footprint established by the full body weight of the trapper.)

Snares are equipped with a relaxing lock. A relaxing lock is defined as a snare lock that allows the snare loop to loosen slightly to reduce the possibility of strangulation. Snares must also be equipped with a stop to prevent the loop from closing to a diameter less than 4-1/4 inches. Regulations on snare loop size and relaxing lock are designed to prevent the accidental loss of domestic animals and other non-target species.

Snares are equipped with a breakaway system with a breaking point not greater than 285 pounds. The breakaway device must be attached to the relaxing lock.

Snares are affixed to a stake or object sufficient to hold a fox or coyote (it is illegal to use any type of drag.)

Snares are equipped with two swivels, including one swivel at the anchor point.

Spring poles, counter-balanced weights, springs or other similar devices are not used to close the snare.

Snares may be up to 60 inches in length, not including a cable anchor extension. The cable anchor extension may be up to 36 inches in length.

Snares are not attached to a fence or set in a manner that would allow an animal to become entangled in a fence.

Snares may be anchored to woody vegetation provided that the stem is free of branches and stubs to a height of 5 feet above the ground or compacted snow. Branches and stubs must be cut flush with the outer bark of the stem.

Snares may not be set in a manner that would allow a snared animal to be suspended two or more feet off the ground.

[jharris]

Man, you guys have too many regs down there. I don't know how you manage to keep up with all of the rules. I have been thinking about picking up a few snares to give it a try. There are a lot of people who do all of their trapping that way up here. Those rules would really put them out of business. Good luck.

[frostbite]

my neighbor has been snaring foxes I don't know the dimensions of his snares, nor have I seen them, I do know that he's caught 7 foxes to my 1

What does all this tell me about snares vs. footholds?

[Dave Lyons]

Frosty,

Doesn't tell me anything if you want my opinion.

I have had the pleasure of trapping in some nice red fox country. I was able to pull many doubles in red fox country. Its not hard you just need the concentration of red fox. I would rather trap fox then snare them anyday. Red fox are dumb as bricks with a old vixen thrown in for fun.

Dave

[frostbite]

Frosty,

Doesn't tell me anything if you want my opinion.

I have had the pleasure of trapping in some nice red fox country. I was able to pull many doubles in red fox country. Its not hard you just need the concentration of red fox. I would rather trap fox then snare them anyday. Red fox are dumb as bricks with a old vixen thrown in for fun.

Dave

Yea, I know Dave. I was just being :evilsmile ish. Ive had much better luck using footholds, even when you could hold a fox in a LEGAL snare. I also know guys who can't catch a cold let alone a fox.:D

[montrose trapper]

man frosty was that supposed to be a shot at me??? funny guy funny guy:lol:

[Smoknngunn]

man frosty was that supposed to be a shot at me??? funny guy funny guy:lol:

No, I think he was refering to me!:lol: Sad thing is, it almost true...lol.

-Smoknn

[frostbite]

No that wasn't a shot at either of you two. Just staing that some guys are better at the craft than others and the 7 illegaly snared fox vs. the 1 foothold fox don't mean much unless it's the same trapper with those two numbers. Besides I can't talk about anyones ability cause I did somthing that turns them the other way. I should have between 3 and 4 fox after my first week, but they didn't seem interested in the set. I know I have pulled them into the location, but they are not working the set, so I have left human sent on my equipment somwhere along the line. I started using glycol for anti- freeze this year, so I'm wondering if thats the difference. Who knows I could check tomorrow and have 2 or 3 that come back and get a little more curious, but I'm not feeling all warm and fuzzy about it at this point.
The cold weather has them on the move thats for sure.