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David G Duncan
11-05-2006, 06:04 AM
Steming from a post by "aquaticsanonymous" who requested a post on the basics of Raccoon Trapping, I offer the following:

First, raccoons are not in the least bit trap shy. Therefore, no special covering or camoflaging of the trap is necessary, as with canine trapping.

The biggest challenges you will have in trapping raccoons will be related to the way they aggressively fight a foothold trap, which can lead to excessive foot damage and failure of any poorly installed trap anchoring system.

By far the most humane and effective trap for harvesting raccoons is the 160 or 220 conibear trap. The use of baited chubbies or plastic buckets are extremely effective. But make sure you understand the regulations and restrictions related to where these traps can be used. Release of a non-target animal unhurted is not possible with type of trap, as compared to a foothold trap.

Proper Trap Size:

Water trapping is normally where a beginning trapper will start their trapping adventure.

The furbearers that they will go after are: Muskrats, Mink and Raccoons.

These furbearers all live in the same habitat. Rivers, lakes, streams and ponds will normally have a good populations of all three of these furbearers.

Therefore, setting traps for muskrats and mink will also result in the trapper catching raccoons, even if he is not targeting this furbearer. Which is not normally a problem, since the market value of raccoon pelts is normally fairly good in comparison to muskrats and mink.

The real problem comes due to the fact that a mature raccoon weighing from 12 to 20 pounds is a lot harder to keep restrained with a foothold trap, that was originally set to handle only a 1 to 3 pound muskrat or mink.

Muskrat and mink traps are normally size #1 or #1 1/2, which surprisingly is also a good sized trap for effectively holding even the largest raccoon by their paw.

In fact, a small foothold trap is much better than a large foothold trap, when it comes to raccoon trapping.

The exception is the # 1 1/2 longspring trap, which might be a good mink and muskrat trap, but it is a very poor raccoon trap, due to the fact that it captures the raccoon too high on their foot.

A raccoon caught in a #1 foothold trap will normally have the trap jaws across the pad of their foot, rather than higher up their foot. An across the pad catch, therefore does not put undue strain on the raccoons foot and they normally will not fight the trap unduly.

However, where raccoons and mink are not catch in a drowning set, then they will chew on the portion of their paw that extends below the jaws, once the circulation is cut off. Which typically can result in their escape.

By using a smaller foothold trap, like the #1 or even a #0 to catch raccoons the problem of the chewing below the jaws is limited, due to the lack of space for them to get below the jaws to chew.

Now, what type and size of foothold trap should a serious raccoon trapper use on his water trapline?

Like almost everything in life the answer comes by way of a compromise.

As a result of my 50 years of experience trapping muskrats, mink and raccoon on a water trapline, I recommend the using a # 1.5 coilspring trap. It is compact and fast with tremendous holding power. It is heavy enough to quickly drown any muskrat or mink, given adequate water depth. It also will normally make an across the pad catch on a raccoons foot.

Your # 1.5 coilspring traps should be equipped with at least two swivels. And the chain should be attached to the middle of the base plate to facilate easy rotation of the trap by the captured furbearer.

Anchoring Systems:

By far the easiest system for anchoring a muskrat, mink and raccoon trap is wire.

It is a fast and cheap means of anchoring a water set.

The problem is what size wire should be used?

Wire size goes by guage, with the smaller the number the bigger the wire.

The standard roll of trappers wire is guage # 14, which will definitely work fine for holding your muskrat and mink, where enough wire is provide to allow them to reach deep water and drown.

But #14 guage wire is not strong enough to hold a raccoon. If you use this small sized wire to anchor your muskrat and mink set then you will eventually lose a trap to a raccoon that will break the wire.

Therefore, it is strongly recommended that you either double up the #14 wire by using two strands or better yet simply use a # 11 guage wire for all your water sets, period.

(Three Anchoring Secrets)

Any time you use wire to anchor a water set for muskrat, mink or raccoon the point where the wire is fastened to the tree, limb or root is the weakest point.

1. Understand that a raccoon will chew every piece of wood into splinters that it can reach. Therefore select only a sollid tree or root of at least 2 inches in diameter as an anchor point.

2. Wire can be easily broken by benting it back and fore in one spot.

Therefore, never make a tight connection of the wire around the tree or root. The wire should be attached so it can swivel around the tree or root. If you use a pliers and twist the wire tight so it won't swivel, then the raccoon can easily break the wire, as it bents back and fore at this fixed point.

3. Raccoons, if made more comfortable by allowing them to reach the dry bank will not fight the foothold trap as hard.

By using a good length of #11 guage wire, sufficient enough to allow the raccoon to gain access to the dry bank and the muskrat and mink to reach deep water, you can have the best of both worlds.

Pocket Set:

By far the easiest and most effective set to construct for raccoons in the pocket set.

This type of set will also take a lot of muskrats and mink.

Simply dig a hole up into a bank at the waters edge using a small shovel. The hole should be from 4" to 6" in diameter and a foot or so deep.

The best location for this type of set is along an overhanging grassy bank.

Select a location by keeping mind that you need something solid for anchoring your trap. I make sure there is a solid tree or strong root system close by, before I start dig a pocket set.

Fish makes a good bait, as well as muskrat meat. If you want to attract mink, then change the bait after several days to keep it fresh. Fish works best during the early part of the season and muskrat work better after freeze up.

You can place the bait in some dry grass and roll it up in a ball and place in the back of the pocket.

Set the 1.5 coilspring trap directly in front of the pocket so it is covered with about 1" of water.

Solidly anchor your trap as discribed above.

Good Luck on your Water Trapline!


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aquaticsanonymous
11-05-2006, 07:46 AM
Dave,
Thank you so much for both the Racoon 101 post, as well as the Fox 101.
It is exactly the information I was looking for.

Thanks again,
Don
Standish MI:)

Northcountry
11-05-2006, 07:59 AM
Dave,

These tutorials are great! I'm sure they take alot of time for you to create but they are an incredible resource for beginners...and I believe there are a ton on here and lurking.

I'm not sure if you intend/want anyone to contribute other ideas to these threads, or not...but I'd like to add a little something again. Just delete this post if you dont like.

I dont consider myself a coon trapper but I catch hoardes of the dang things...they just seem to follow me around.

I have noticed that when I catch a coon in a foothold (normally set in front of a pocket set) and the anchoring scheme wont allow it to leave the water, there is never any foot damage. Even one or two inches of water will keep their feet covered and they wont pay any attention to the trap or their foot. I guess they dont like to put their head underwater.

HunterHawk
11-05-2006, 08:03 AM
Thanks for taking the time and writing these all out. Being a beginner myself i actually save these on my computer in a word document so i can go back and look at them whenever i have any questions so i dont have to keep asking people over and over. I have never caught a mink before. are you going to post one on a mink or is it just make a cubby hole set like you were talking and place a trap in front of the entrane with some bait way in the back. i tried for them a little bit last year but this year we have a pretty good place where we have seen lots of mink so i was wondering if 1 you were going to do a post on those. and 2 if that is just the best set for them?. And again they must take you a while to think them up and thanks for posting them. and i see they are at all different hours of the day.. haha get some sleep.Thanks again~Hawk

monsterbuck74
11-05-2006, 08:30 AM
great info i found out about racoons splintering my wooden stakes had them knawed right down they were still waiting for me.

David G Duncan
11-05-2006, 04:16 PM
NC,

I hope others will contribute to these posts, which can only make them better.

I see your point about keeping a raccoon in the water and if you have time you can rig a drown wire at all your water sets, which will keep them a couple of feet under the water ;) . However, if you are making hundreds of muskrat, mink and coon sets, it is far too time consuming to rig drown wires at everyone of them.

I just never liked seeing a poor coon, who's fur is not designed to be wet, sitting in the water. I like them up on the bank high and dry, curled up and waiting for me, if possible.

If you use a small trap size, like the 1.5 coilspring, then they typically will not do any chewing below the jaws. Just took one out of a 1.5 coilspring this morning that was caught across the front foot pad and there was absolutely no paw damage or chewing. The trap was rigged with an fox drag and about six feet of chain. He was very comfortable tangled up in the dry grass near the stream.

Hunterhawk,

OK, I will start working on a Basic Mink Trapping 101 post. Who needs sleep anyway.

Rumajz
11-05-2006, 09:36 PM
I also want to say Thank You for all this work. I learn a lot from these. Quick question. Can your fox trapping 101 be applied to coyotes or would making a coyote set be very different from fox?

Roman

David G Duncan
11-06-2006, 06:57 AM
Roman,

Thanks for the positive feedback.

The main difference between fox and coyote trapping is the size of the trap you might use. While the 1.5 coilspring is an excellent size for fox, it is a bit too small for coyotes, even thou I have caught and held a lot of coyotes in a 1.5 coilspring.

Stepping up to a 1.75 coilspring, will give you a trap that will work fine for either fox or coyote.

The other difference is that a coyote will come into a set made in thicker cover, while a Red Fox will shy away from a set that does not have plenty of open space around it for them to feel comfortable.

Grey Fox are very aggressive and can also be caught in fairly thick cover.

Rumajz
11-06-2006, 07:09 PM
Thanks so much,

I think after a year of reading and enjoying this site and all of these pictures and experiences I am tempted to try a set or two. There sure is a lot of coyotes here and not enough small game (that might be because of too many stray cats though, sure would like to thin those out a little if it were legal).

David G Duncan
11-07-2006, 08:06 AM
Added a photo of a six pack of extra large conibear raccoons, that I harvested near this years bear baiting stations. Did not get my bear :sad: , but I did have some luck with the ring tails.

The guy in the foreground in my fearless silky terrier by the name of Tanner. He has more courage than common sense and never back down from a fight. So far he has managed to bluff all the wild animals around our house into running, with his let we have at em bark :lol: .

Wiggler
11-07-2006, 10:15 AM
i love reading your post on all topics. its been years since i trapped, and now that im retired, i have all the time in the world to do it. but im limited on knowledge. i got a coyote trapping book from tom miranda, but he only really showed the walk-thru method he uses.
Can you add any other info to help out an old timer that is trying to catch his first coyote? i had 4 sets dug up yesterday, 2 i think were deer. i know one was a yote cuz i saw his tracks walk right up to my set and scratch from the side of the "walk-thru" method until he saw the fiberglass screen trap cover i was using. needless to say, he was gone. this morning i had one snapped that was by the skunk pile i built up yesterday. that set was a small dirthole set about 20 foot from the skunk set. these coyotes are blowing my mind. i can trap fox, but up here the coyote reign. not many fox. (northwest michigan). yes, i have boiled my traps, but maybe somehow they got contaminated. i had them in unscented garbage bags. i really just want to beat one of those things. they are everywhere up here, but they are making me out to be the rookie i am. thanks guys..

Wiggler
11-07-2006, 11:14 AM
i didnt see you were in kalkaska, im over here in arcadia. i have a cottage over here in town and i trap north and south of here. on my way to check yote traps this morning, i saw the biggest buck ive ever seen in michigan. (and ive hunted all over the U.S.) this buck i would guess had an outside spread of at least 18", maybe bigger. his horns went outside his ears by a good 6 inches. biggest buck ive seen since hunting in illinois. but he was a 1/4 mile from the property i can hunt on, plus he was with a doe. but who knows, maybe i should put down the traps and grab the bow again..:confused:

David G Duncan
11-07-2006, 09:06 PM
Wiggler,

Thanks for your positive feedback on my postings.

I know, this time of the year a trapper really does get pulled between bowhunting and keeping his trapline in order. Because by running a trapline you are bound to see some really big bucks chasing the does. It happens to me just about every year ;) .

Since you are an accomplished fox trapper, this will definitely give you a big advantage in your quest to hang up a coyote.

It is disappointing to have a coyote uncovering your trap. It is possible that you just happened to come across a trap wise coyote, that some other trapper has educated.

Or maybe a skunk did the uncovering and the coyote came later. This happens a lot.

But just remember there are a lot of uneducated coyotes out there, so don't get too hung up on a single digger coyote.

Obviously, you might have a problem with odor contamination. Maybe you could try using some wax paper for a pan cover rather than your fiberglass covers.

The other thing is that it sometimes takes a week before a coyote set will connect. Since, normally you don't see the sign of where a coyote has checked out your set from a distance on its first visit, don't think that the coyotes are not interested in your set. On his next trip through it is likely that he will come in for a closer investigation and you will nail him.

The amount of lure and scent that we use in the original making of the set, sometimes needs to cool down a little. If the temperature in fairlly warm a coyote can get his nose full of the scent from a distance, really doesn't need to stick his nose at the edge of the dirthole or walk directly into the walk through flat set. Then, after the set weathers a little, he will have to work the set closer to get his nose full of your lure, and you will nail him.

There are a lot of variables that determine whether a particular set is going to produce. So, you just need to make plenty of sets of various types and be patience. Besides, if trapping coyotes was like falling off a log, then it would not be nearly as rewarding, as it is when we do finally get greeted by a big old coyote in our trap.:D

Rumajz
11-08-2006, 08:14 PM
Or maybe, set a trap like you did before, in the same spot where it was dug up in the past, sacrifice one night and wait for the coyote to come to dig it up again and then shoot that educated smarta...ss. :evilsmile Just kidding here, that would be a long night.

michbowguy
07-20-2007, 08:57 PM
wow,nice pile o coons!