Snyper mis-hap

[explodingvarmints]

Finally butchered my 8 pt. from last saturday and was very suprised to find the remainder of my arrow and broadhead (Rockey Mt. Snyper 2-blade). The shot was 14 yards almost dead on broadside from 18 feet up. The shot was a little closer to the shoulder than I would like; however, it did not hit it. I was shocked to find that the arrow did not pass through like they almost always do. Best I could figure was that I hit the far side shoulder blade or bone. That was untill last night...... The broadhead and 6 inches of arrow ended up in the neck! about 10 inches from the head:confused: :confused: :dizzy: ! HOW THE HECK DID THIS HAPPEN????? That arrow had to make a nearly 90 degree right turn:dizzy: ! anybody have some insight to share on this one?
btw the snyper lost 1 blade but is otherwise perfect.... deer went less than 60yards (falling 3 times within sight, then down a hill) 8 pt. 152 lbs dressed

[Kelly Johnson]

Ive seen arrows do this...

Front leg forward at the shot I bet?

Arrow gets there in the pocket, buck moves leg back while starting to move forward arrow gets levered forward.

Sound plausible??

[explodingvarmints]

Ive seen arrows do this...

Front leg forward at the shot I bet?

Arrow gets there in the pocket, buck moves leg back while starting to move forward arrow gets levered forward.

Sound plausible??

Front leg was forward; however, I thought that the entrance (about 3 or 4 inches high of center) would have been a little too high for that to occur. I could be wrong... happened once before;) .

[Blueracer]

Does that R.M. broadhead use an o ring? I don't like the blades that don't lock in myself...less they detach within the animal and cut up meat or get lost and make cleaning the animal dangerous.

[Aaron Ploss]

This sounds like a file for Mythbusters:SHOCKED:

[MSUICEMAN]

i'm guessing it went through to the opposite side shoulder and deflected off of it, resulting in a broken arrow and a change of direction. just a guess.

[explodingvarmints]

i'm guessing it went through to the opposite side shoulder and deflected off of it, resulting in a broken arrow and a change of direction. just a guess.

Between what kelly said and what your saying is about where my thought process is. If the head jack-knived as some mechanicals do on severe angle shots then it would have lost a great deal of energy and would not have penetrated that far. I keep replaying the shot and the deer's reactions while still in sight. The first 'tumble' this guy took was 25 yards or so after the shot. This is where both first blood and the fletching end of the arrow (approx. 15 inches) were found. So my initial thought being the fall drove the arrow in farther (after the opposing shoulder strike) at a different angle (up the neck). But then I think of "why would he fall 3 times while in sight from a very good lung shot? Well that made me think (now knowing were the head ended up) that there was some vertbre or spinal damage..... This could explain the falling and what not; however, it still does not tell me how it got there:dizzy: :confused: . Bowhunting..... learn something new every time out.

[FISH]

if there was spinal or vertebrae damage he would NOT have moved. in my experience if something sharp like a broadhead, bullet fragment even grazed the spine or a vertebrae the deer didn't get up, maybe it would kick a little. i've had double lung shot deer fall 2 times within 40 yards. it had a good ending though and thats all that matters in the end.

[Byron]

First of all, congrats on your buck! Sounds like you made a great shot on him.

As to jackknifing, not possible with the Snyper, due to the rear-deploying blade design. Sounds like you are much closer to what likely happened with the details of how he fell with the arrow still in him.

I would guess the arrow hit hard bone in the offside shoulder joint area, stopping it cold (as expected). When the nearside leg came back, it caused the arrow to turn toward the front of the deer. When he fell (due to shoulder injury and "breathing problems"), the arrow was driven into the neck, bent and broken.

Sound reasonable?

Best Regards,
Byron :)

[fasthunter]

Uh oh... The magic arrow theory....Just watch out for the 3rd bowman on the grassy knoll.:lol: Seriosly though that's interesting. I have to agree with the deer falling driving it in deeper theory.

[walleyeman2006]

congrats on your buck but if it lost a blade that can defenatly make em turn on a dime

[Joe Archer]

First of all, congrats on your buck! Sounds like you made a great shot on him.

As to jackknifing, not possible with the Snyper, due to the rear-deploying blade design. Sounds like you are much closer to what likely happened with the details of how he fell with the arrow still in him.

I would guess the arrow hit hard bone in the offside shoulder joint area, stopping it cold (as expected). When the nearside leg came back, it caused the arrow to turn toward the front of the deer. When he fell (due to shoulder injury and "breathing problems"), the arrow was driven into the neck, bent and broken.

Sound reasonable?

Best Regards,
Byron :)

This sounds like a good theory.
If the above is not likely I would bet dollars to doughnuts that the buck jumped the string a little and was moving when the arrow got there. If you watch any hunting video in slow motion you will see that almost 90% of these deer are moving when the arrow hits. In real time or in real life we just do not see it happen.
A moving deer upon broadhead impact would explain how you hit high and could also explain the unpredictable path of the arrow.
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