Question about lease

[choop]

Considering a lease for the first time from a pretty decent guy. He has 30 acres in north Muskegon county. I am yet to walk the property so that needs to be done. He says he has taken two nice bucks in the past two years off of the property. It is surrounded by private, bordered by a swamp he says the bucks use to funnel. He has tree stands placed and one ground blind that I may use. He has offered that the lease will cover spring turkey as well as there are alot of turkey in the area. I know there are alot of ifs ands or buts and I am hoping to clear some of this up with a walk around scout this weekend, but can anybody give me an idea of what a fair price to pay? He states that he is not hunting this year due to work and thought it would be nice to get something for the rights. I will be the only hunter on the land. Any thoughts on what is a fair price would be appreciated. I also would be interested in things people might recommend I look for on my walk about outside of the obvious such as rubs and so on. Thanks in advance.

[glockman55]

$500. wouldn't be a bad price to pay, I'm sure his taxes are more than that.
How often would you be able to hunt? I mean, how much time do you have off work?

[swampbuck62]

I hate to say it for you boys in the north. But leasing is the wave of the future. When I moved to GA in 1979 the first thing I did was join a lease. If I wanted access to good non-public land it was the only way to go. Even back then land owners in the south realized that they could lease their land. To help pay property taxes or just make a little extra cash. Most leases around here now bring about $10 an acre. There is nothing wrong with leaseing land . Even though some say it will end hunting for some of us. I have never heard anyone in GA complain. Most are happy to pay five or six hundred a year. It's cheaper then buying your own like I did. And in most cases the land owner will let you do what you want as far as planting food plot a stuff. GO FOR IT you will be glad you did. Make sure the land owner gives you first option for next year too.

[zx10r2004]

ask him if you can do some work for him. you might be able to work something out that way.;)

[choop]

Weekends mostly, holidays as well. He has given me the option of camping on site in his campsite if I choose. I won't only because of my concern for disturbing the area.

I have access to 20 acres or so now that doesn't cost me anything but there are ALOT of people running quad runners through it, trespassing and so on. I want an area where I have the feeling of being alone. The solitude means as much as the harvest. The owner has been great so far. This is a first time thing for both of us so we both want to do it right. Is there an online land lease contract or form available that anyone knows of? Thanks,

[swampbuck62]

[quote=choop] The owner has been great so far. This is a first time thing for both of us so we both want to do it right. [quotE]

Be gentle ... :lol: :lol:

Hope you have a great season. Nothing like walking onto a piece of property knowing your the only one on it;.:coolgleam

[choop]

haha, thanks for the advice, I wonder if he will respect me?

Seriously though, I am searching for online lease forms and there are a ton.

[swampbuck62]

Sounds like you just need a basic one . The two of you could prolly draw one up. And what about hunters liability Insurance. You may want to look into that also. Or just put the verbage in the lease agreement.That neither one of you will hold the other one reponceable for any accedents on the property. Then get it noterized...

[I know my spelling stinks]

[answerguy8]

My advice is to make sure that you will be the only one allowed to hunt it. Not any neighbors, cousins, in laws or what have you. Ask him "If your work schedule changes will you be hunting here?"

gary

[swampbuck62]

My advice is to make sure that you will be the only one allowed to hunt it. Not any neighbors, cousins, in laws or what have you. Ask him "If your work schedule changes will you be hunting here?"

gary

DITTO !! THAT

Leased a 1000 ac from a guy in south GA a few years ago. I only hunted it on the weekends. Come to find out his family was hunting it during the week.:mad: And I was supposed to have exclusive rights. We got it worked out by mid season.:)

[part timer]

Do a google search on land lease contract forms. You'll come up with a number of ideas.

If I were leasing a piece of land I would include the language that I have exclusive access to the property for the period specified. Not just exclusive hunting access. Your hunting experience will be diminished if neighbors and family are hiking or running ATVs over the ground.

[TankJP]

definately draw up a contract and make sure it's for "exclusive" rights.. you and you alone. Otherwise he can also lease to others should he so choose and you're out your $$. I've heard of too many people signing a contract only to find out they didn't make it exclusive and he sold leasing rights to others as well.

[Shop Rat]

Have him show you the perimeter. My f-i-l hunted land in Alpena county that was a relatives. He was told "All this is mine up to the river this way and the field that way" Opening morning my f-i-l shot a buck. When he returned for the afternoon hunt all of the deers guts were in the blind.:yikes: He did not know what to do, so he pulled them out and hunted. He had no Idea what to think. The next morning the guts were back in the blind.:yikes: It took a big argument and lots of trouble to find out that his relative only owned half of the property he said he did. The rest was owned by a local farmer. When my f-i-l went to the farmers house to say he was sorry and explain, the farmer told him to leave or he would shoot him.

(I still can't figure out why my inlaws always gut their deer next to their blind. I try to pull them into a field and have eagles and whatever else eat it.)

[answerguy8]

Have him show you the perimeter. My f-i-l hunted land in Alpena county that was a relatives. He was told "All this is mine up to the river this way and the field that way" Opening morning my f-i-l shot a buck. When he returned for the afternoon hunt all of the deers guts were in the blind.:yikes: He did not know what to do, so he pulled them out and hunted. He had no Idea what to think. The next morning the guts were back in the blind.:yikes: It took a big argument and lots of trouble to find out that his relative only owned half of the property he said he did. The rest was owned by a local farmer. When my f-i-l went to the farmers house to say he was sorry and explain, the farmer told him to leave or he would shoot him.

(I still can't figure out why my inlaws always gut their deer next to their blind. I try to pull them into a field and have eagles and whatever else eat it.)

How do you pick up and move a pile of deer guts?:confused: Certainly is a way to get someone's attention though.

[zx10r2004]

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[zx10r2004]

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[zx10r2004]

:confused: i dont know if this will help.you will have to chage the dates. they are from 19**.

[Shop Rat]

How do you pick up and move a pile of deer guts?:confused: Certainly is a way to get someone's attention though.

I don't know. (maybe a bucket) This is a crazy story. I try to get him to tell at least once a year at holidays. I would have gotten the message right away and not gone back. He is "slow in the driveway" sometimes. I had a bear do his business in a blind once, I got the point right away. :lol: Don't make your door out of outdoor carpet.