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MPsteelheader
08-16-2006, 10:06 PM
does anyone have the blank weights(in oz.) for the str-1562s-IMX, and the str-1562x???

thanks in advance,

mark




MPsteelheader
08-17-2006, 10:48 PM
anybody???

the IMX blank is that 13' imx canada blank thats so nice to the hand...

and the other blank is the frontier 13' 2pc...

any wieght info at all???

Ron Matthews
08-18-2006, 08:42 AM
Have not seen blank weight's for this rod anywhere, I would assume it's much more than the AMERICAN made in USA st1562imx. The IMX is the lightest 13ft'er you can get. Many have said The best 13ft'er ever made! Even my 1388/9-3pc GLX wiegh's more. 2.50 ounce. It's only 11.6'

MPsteelheader
08-18-2006, 05:32 PM
certainly the lightest 13'er ive ever handled

why is it soo hard to get specs for canadian products?

Eggsniffer
08-18-2006, 07:22 PM
I'm sure there's some guys on the canadian boards that will know the weight on that rod. In fact, I've only seen one american fishing a "true" IMX as opposed to the "float" series. I'm more of an IM6'er, wish I could help.

Ron Matthews
08-19-2006, 07:06 AM
Imo, The float series is more of a blend of gl3. It's not even close to the IMX that I am used too! Loomis discontinued because of warranty issues- Americans too often tied as spinning blanks and with Overhead casting this caused too many problems. An IMX is not a meat stick. I doesn't drift lead well, not a spinner rod, It's a Canadian float rod! It needs to be treated as such. I'm sure the frontier is a very nice rod, but how true to the USA made blank? I'm honestly not that sure. PM JC tackle as he can set you straight.

Ron Matthews
08-19-2006, 07:47 AM
Imo, The float series is more of a blend of gl3. It's not even close to the IMX that I am used too! Loomis discontinued because of warranty issues- Americans too often tied as spinning blanks and with Overhead casting this caused too many problems. An IMX is not a meat stick. I doesn't drift lead well, not a spinner rod, It's a Canadian float rod! It needs to be treated as such. I'm sure the frontier is a very nice rod, but how true to the USA made blank? I'm honestly not that sure. PM JC tackle as he can set you straight. The frontier is made from IM6, In no way would it compair to IMX. The float series- are a blend of materials. Got that from loomis site.

TheSteelheadBum
08-19-2006, 09:35 PM
I have no idea about Loomis Canada but when I inquired about the weight on my Loomis USA IMX 13'4". The answer I got was G Loomis does not give out the weights of there factory rods or there blanks. I guess if you had the blank and put it on a digital scale you could find out there...

Ron Matthews
08-20-2006, 08:56 AM
I've got some older blank catalogs, The real IMX is 2.35ounce blank. The 1601 Is a blend of gl-2&3, IT's not real imx. It's marketed as imx but the feel isn't close. Thats why they wont tell you.:confused:

kype138
08-20-2006, 01:26 PM
Canadians can't tell the real weight because they don't use ounces...

MPsteelheader
08-21-2006, 12:17 AM
then how about weight in grams?

thats metric...

i just want to compare and its turning into a headache

TheSteelheadBum
08-21-2006, 11:18 PM
Hey Ron where is your proof that the 1601 is a blend of GL2-3. I would have to strongly disagree with you. Is this just your opinion or do you have proof????

MPsteelheader
08-31-2006, 12:00 PM
ron id like to know as well where you got that info...

since shimano owns loomis now osaka japan doesn't have the answers

Ron Matthews
09-06-2006, 05:09 PM
Fish usa- canadian float rods, gives specs for the float series and the frontier series. Says right there in the print -Frontier is im6, and float series is a blend of materials.

MPsteelheader
09-06-2006, 05:55 PM
ron you change your story now why?

the rod you were referring to in your statement was the 1601 which is the 13'4" 3pc...

the frontier i know is not imx material i never disputed that...

i simply asked for wieghts of the blanks(frontier vs. IMX canada)...

The 1601 Is a blend of gl-2&3, IT's not real imx. It's marketed as imx but the feel isn't close. Thats why they wont tell you.:confused:

so why change it?

Ron Matthews
09-06-2006, 06:09 PM
Change what? I didn't print the page on fishusa It say's right there- Primarily of imx, in the paragraph above it says that the NEW float series is a blend of materials. It's not 100% imx. 1601-Looks, acts, feels like all my St gl3 series.It in no way compairs to the older imx rods,Mine were made in the early 90's.

MPsteelheader
09-06-2006, 08:49 PM
thats an opinion...

not fact ron

Ron Matthews
09-06-2006, 09:05 PM
All of these models have a fixed reel seat. Four of the models have the reel seat in the traditional spinning reel location with a longer butt grip, and the 13' 4" rod has a "Skamania" or Michigan-drift style configuration with a short butt grip. Although these rods were designed primarily for use with traditional spinning reels, they can also be used with center-pin reels.

Like many of the new G. Loomis rods, these rods are blends of the traditional G. Loomis blank materials (GL2, GL3, IMX and GLX) and are formulated specifically for float fishing. The four shorter two-piece rods are burgundy in color. The STFR1601S-SK three piece rod is built of primarily IMX graphite and is the IMX flat grey color.

MPsteelheader
09-06-2006, 09:20 PM
so with that "fact" where do you get a gl2-3 mix???

just so you know gl3 material is IM6...

and gl2 is a composite

TheSteelheadBum
09-07-2006, 07:05 AM
Your original statement claimed it was all GL2 and GL3 and no IMX. The documents you are showing say primarily IMX. Ron where is your proof it has no IMX? I agree it is not like the old IMX blanks but there is no way it is GL2-GL3 only. Personally I would rather have it the way it is due to it still having very light weight and durability at the same time.

MPsteelheader
09-13-2006, 12:55 AM
thanks for the info guys...

i am staying away from the 1601s-sk due to the sections and guide spacing...

loomis usa has some work to do to make that rod better(i.e. balancing, # of guides, etc)...

i think i know what direction im goin with for my next rod purchase...

thanks again,

mark