whisker biscuit

[MIman13]

I am going to get a new rest and I am think about getting the new Quick shot whisker biscuit deluxe QS and i am just looking for some input on either whisker biscuit
Thanx in advance

MIman13

[Grouse Hunter]

do it and dont look back.

[herefishy]

I thought about getting a whisker bisquit last year until i talked to our local shop owner. he told me they are pretty rough on feathers and veins. he also knows i shoot most every day. iv'e never personally used one just passing along advice that was given to me...

[DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI]

You Won't Regret Doing It. You'll Never Hear Another Arrow***donk*** In Your Life! And As Far As The Cost Of A Feather Or Vane Exactly How Much Did You Pay For That Bow And Other Equipment?
A Shot On A Buck Of A Lifetime Is Well Worth The Time And Cost Of A Vane Or 10000 Vanes! Just My Whisker Biscuits Worth.

[MIman13]

thank you guys for the great information, I am thinking I am going to buy it
just one more question...is there much difference between the original and the deluxe because I am looking at them and they look very similiar to me
Thanx

MIman13

[DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI]

You Get What You Pay For Comes To Mind!

[wild bill]

use the search function for this forum and see what has been said about them.

[target-panic]

I love mine.........no more arrows flopping around when you draw. Was always a blast trying to get the arrow back on the rest with one finger while at full draw :rant: . Never happens in practice.....only when a deer is in front of you. I shoot short Blazer vanes through mine & I'm on my third season which includes hunting & winter indoor leagues.

[Grouse Hunter]

I just happen to know someone that shot 13x's on saturday. Oh yeah he was using a WB. Its a VERY accurate rest.

[nessenswamper]

I love my wb, don't have to worry about arrow falling great accurace with mine,and I bought it used

[beararch#1]

they are a hunters dream rest. the qs has a slot to put the arrow in, and thicker bristles in the bottom, so u should shoot cock feather up. i replace my feathers every year, thats it. veins, well, that's different. u will need a tough, thick like bhoning blazers, and if you are a vein user, make sure u wrap them/ have em wraped.

[trapperjoe576]

I had a whisker bisquit on my old bow. But it ruined the veins on all of my arrows. And it seemed a little loud. If you wanted to get a full enclosed arrow rest, get the QAD Ultra-Rest Hunter fall away. Also with the whisker bisquit any movements you make while your arrow is still firing will greatly affect your arrow travel.

[hungry hunter]

Whisker buiscuits are great, alot of people will try to talk you out of useing one but for hunting situations they work great. I have had very few problems with vanes being damaged but its really not a big deal to replace them anyways.

[Michihunter]

Rippled vanes can be fixed with steam. But that's an issue for those that don't use what's recommended by the sight maker. Blazers are the vane to use. The WB is a great rest and one that doesn't get the respect it deserves. Nothing can be said bad about it and usually nothing is except by those that haven't used it or are using weak vanes. Try it and you too will be a believer!!;)

[sullyxlh]

They may be good for the kid just learning but there no good for the long ball,I don't see what the big deal is with this rest,I've never had to shoot a deer standing on my head so full containment has never been an Issue,I think there more of a novelity item,I've never seen em used in serious competition shoots or by factory archers shootin for the money

[Grouse Hunter]

They may be good for the kid just learning but there no good for the long ball,I don't see what the big deal is with this rest,I've never had to shoot a deer standing on my head so full containment has never been an Issue,I think there more of a novelity item,I've never seen em used in serious competition shoots or by factory archers shootin for the money

There are a lot of reasons that you wont see them used in competition. 2-3 FPS loss of speed and increased vane wear are a couple reasons. You have to think that these guys are shooting probably 1000X more arrows than the average Joe. Also, the pros use what they are paid to use or what is going to have the most contingency money or what the sponsor requests. CAP, does not offer any contingency money, sponsorships, etc. Here is a round of indoor that was shot by jim Despart using a WB. I dont think accuracy is an issue here.
http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=128586&stc=1&d=1140757531

[Michihunter]

This is a HUNTING rest and the fact that most like to lay the bow on their lap and not worry about whether the arrow will be on the rest at draw is what makes it so popular. Also, the K.I.S.S. theory is taken into account here. Nothing could be simpler to use. Accuracy isn't an issue here. Too many deer have been taken while using it to say that it isn't accurate. And some may prescribe to the theory that in fact it could be MORE accurate due to the slight resistance the bristles will have on the vanes upon release. In theory that could "straighten" your arrow out before the vanes even get a chance to catch air.;)

[MIman13]

the main reason that I would like a wb is so that my arrow will never fall off my rest again, especially when I have the buck of a lifetime infront of me:banghead3

MIman13

[Grouse Hunter]

In theory that could "straighten" your arrow out before the vanes even get a chance to catch air.;)


You'll still need to tune your bow, it wont straighten the arrow out. I know I have shot it through paper many times.

[Michihunter]

You'll still need to tune your bow, it wont straighten the arrow out. I know I have shot it through paper many times.

That's given for ANY rest GH!!;)

[skipper34]

They may be good for the kid just learning but there no good for the long ball,I don't see what the big deal is with this rest,I've never had to shoot a deer standing on my head so full containment has never been an Issue,I think there more of a novelity item,I've never seen em used in serious competition shoots or by factory archers shootin for the
money

Sully, if you have never used the WB, then how would you know if it was a novelty or what? Why would you want to judge an item that you have never tried? I for one could care less about the rests used for competition. We are talking about a HUNTING rest here. I have used the Bisquit for 4 years now and have 3 deer with it. Seems that the ones who don't like the WB are the ones who don't use it or have never tried it. We don't need that kind of snobbish animosity in our ranks.

[Drifter Saver]

I have used the WB for three years now. I absolutely love it. I have taken creatures with it without a problem. I will be hunting archery elk in the mountains for my second year this year, and that is where it really shows its value.

As far as speed and vane wear. Yes you loose as much as 5 fps (depending on your set-up), but that certainly isn't going to make you miss an animal. It does tend to wear-out vanes a little quicker, but I shoot almost year-round and I fletch my own arrows so it isn't a big deal. Generally my need to re-fletch comes from arrow on arrow contact rather than the WB.

I can also say that accuracy has not been a problem. I am currently shooting daily from 30, 40, 50, and 60 yards getting ready for my trip (same as last year). If I have a bad shot, I don't think it is because of the rest (more because of the 7th or 8th grouping in a 95 degree day after work :dizzy: :cool: :dizzy: ).

My ONLY complaint is that it makes a little more noise than a moleskin covered rest, but it hasn't been a problem yet.

[Marbler]

I used a w/b for three years and I loved it. When I switched to blazers it really tore them up. However, with duravanes I had no problems. I switched to a fall away to eliminate the friction with the fibers. QAD and Ripcord make the total containment fall aways for the hunter who like myself likes to lay the bow on my lap with an arrow nocked! With the blazers I am shooting much tighter groups with a fall away than with the w/b, especially 40 yds and out. I guess it is all in what makes you feel better, they all work.

[wackmaster]

So if they tair your vanes up, slow your arrow down. and make more noise why are they better then a regular arrow rest or a fall away rest? Just because you dont have to worry about your arrow fallin off the rest when you set it on your lap? I am not doggin the wb but I am thinking of buying one my self and dont know about it when I am reading this thread.....

[skipper34]

Wack, if you are currently using a fall-away or some other type of rest and you are happy with it, then maybe you should stick with that type of rest if you are not having any problems. I went to the WB when I was shooting a Golden Key hunter rest and was having problems with tuning. I have not noticed a considerable amount of arrow speed drop with the WB, nor have I had any noise problems. I shoot feathers, so the vane damage problem does not apply. I like the WB as a hunting rest, those who shoot comp may not like the WB but again, I do not shoot comp so it doesn't matter. I feel that the majority who slam the WB are those who have not used it. Like I said, if you are satisfied with whatever you are using then why switch? I like the WB.

[Riddle]

On my WB I cut out the bristles that were where it was contacting the vanes, but this year I'm trying out the NAP Quick Tune 360 Capture rest. Look it up on Cabela's site, it looks like an improvement to me.

[Kelly Johnson]

No everyone that knows me know that my mantra fro years has been "fletching contact is against my religion";)

That being said...I've seen the WB in action by guys that know how to set them up properly.

Depending on the arrow they can be made nearly silent.
When setup properly I've seen blazer go hundreds and hundreds of shots with no noticable wear...like, zero.

If it's eating your fletch I'd bet something is amiss with the setup.

Not pointing fingers here just giving you guys that are experiencing fletch damage a heads up....take a real close look. It doesn't have to be lke that:D

[DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI]

I've Been Shooting The Blazers Thru My W.b. And The Only Tears Or Damage They Get Is When I Shoot Them Off. As Far As The Loss Of A Few Measley Feet Per Second Do You Think That, That Deer Is Going To Know The Difference Between 208 Mph And 207.98 Mph. When You Whack Him!
Just Remember That It's *******arrow Placement********* Sharp Broadheads*****and***** Arrow Placement***** Quiet I Just Heard A Twig Snap!

[live2fishdjs]

What size WB are you guys shooting w/ carbons? I am pretty sure I have decided to go with one as opposed to a drop away, now need to know which one.

[Busa Tom]

AWESOME hunting rest, no need to worry about arrow "falling" off your rest!

[MIman13]

thank you guyz i am deffinetly going to buy the w/b
does anyone know excactly how much one cost and what the diference is between the new w/b and the old one:dizzy:
thanx

MIman13

[bow hunter]

I believe the old model used stiffer whiskers creating more drag on your arrow. I have been using the new one the last few months and I love it.

[Ack]

thank you guyz i am deffinetly going to buy the w/b
does anyone know excactly how much one cost and what the diference is between the new w/b and the old one:dizzy:
thanx

MIman13

Probably about the best deal out there on a WB right now is at your local Walmart....I just picked up an original model with the Quickshot biscuit for $34.99....$5 cheaper than Cabelas. The "newer" model is the one with the black and brown fibers....all of the ones at Walmart are the newer biscuits.

[Big Bear 44]

Trim the extra bristles up it really reduces drag.

[Kingstone]

:lol::mad:I am going to get a new rest and I am think about getting the new Quick shot whisker biscuit deluxe QS and i am just looking for some input on either whisker biscuit
Thanx in advance

MIman13

[Kingstone]

:one_eye:I asume the new wisker bisquit is better than mine. I shoot the older model. I really like it for hunting but it is rough on your fletchings. Be sure to add extra glue to the front of your fletchings or you will be replacing them. I also question the accuracy of them. Seems to me they leave a lot of margine for error. I like to use mine for hunting but for 3d shoot there must be better rests.

[TnRidge]

You can't find a better HUNTING rest than a WB , period . Most hunting shots are less than 25 yards ,and the WB fits the bill perfect .
I have tried 4 different drop aways , and always go back to the WB for the simplicity . Set it (centershot) and forget it !
As for the fletching tearing off ? I use Bohning , or Duravanes with superglue gel , and never have a problem .
As for the critics , most of them never have tried a biscuit for HUNTING . They use it for 3-D ,and try to compare it with a drop away @ 60 yards .:dizzy:

[wackmaster]

They use it for 3-D ,and try to compare it with a drop away @ 60 yards .:dizzy:

What Hunter wouldent want to be able to shoot a deer 60yards away? Buck Of a lifetime will only come in 60yards then what? I dont think there is much diff. between 3-D and Hunting I think A guy that can shoot a 3-D target accuratly at 60yards they are gonna be a force to be delt with in a treestand. Just my 2 cents, I havent decided on what I want to hunt with either but if a drop away can shoot more consistant then the WB why shouldent I go with the drop away??

[TnRidge]

LOL , you are joking right ? How long have you been bowhunting ? There is one heck of a difference in shooting a deer at 60 yards and a standing still target @ 60 yards .
Archery is seeing how far you can hit the target , Bowhunting is seeing how close you get get to it .;)

Here is a thread on the average killing shot distance . It is less than 20 yards .
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140176&highlight=average+shot

[Kelly Johnson]

First and foremost in my mind...Ethics and personal limitations are NOT negotiable due to a Bucks headgear or the perceived quality of an animal. That's being a hackmaster. ;)

Now than...

Foam is foam and deers are deers.

Deers move....foam don't.

Deers die a long, slow death if ya wound them...Foam don't care if ya hit em in the nads or pierce an ear.

I practice out to 100+ quite a bit and can keep it in the vitals of a 3D at that range but I wouldn't take a first shot at a critter past 35 or so in the Michigan woods.

But if that first shot dosn't do it quick enough and the critter gives me braodside and still at 65 yards for a 2nd arrow?? better believe it'll be wearing 2 holes if i have my way.;)

Back to the topic....I don't see how the WB is any less accurate at 60-70-80 than it would be at 20-30. The farther out the LESS effect the rest will have as the fletch have taken over the steering.

[wackmaster]

OK I this is my second year bowhunting so I am a lilttle new to it and still learning but I know people kill deer farther then 35yards I mean Bowhunting is all about shot placement is it not? I myself wouldent feel comfortable shooting a deer farther then 35yards but I have heard and seen people shoot deer further and killed them as cleanly as possible I guess I will just have to get a WB and try her out and see how it works for myself there is always gonna be mixed emotions on things to do with bow hunting there is just so much and its like battle of the brands some loyal some not.

[Ack]

What Hunter wouldent want to be able to shoot a deer 60yards away?

Is it possible...yes. Is it recommended....NO. Probably shouldn't go there in this thread...that's a topic that would be locked down in no time.

[TnRidge]

I have practiced out to 80 yards with my WB rest ,but limit my hunting shots to less than 35 yards . Like Kelly said , there are too many varibles in deer hunting to risk shots at longer ranges .
As far as the WB goes , I have bowhunted for 26 years ,and yet to find a better rest for hunting .
I have tried 5 different drop aways ,and had problems with all of them . The WB is a simple rest . Paper tune with it and get the centershot set and you are good to go . It can be a little sensitive to grip torque because of the full contact and set back of the rest , but those who have good form can shoot very well with it . I can shoot as good as I can with a drop away .
What I like the most about the WB is that I can lay the bow in my lap while hunting , and then manuver the bow into position for a shot without ever taking my eyes off the deer and looking at the arrow . There are times when I'm turning around in my stand to take a shot behind the tree and the tip of the arrow may bump a limb ,but the arrow doesn't move .
I could go on and on about the rest , but I would say try one for hunting and decide for yourself .

[wackmaster]

ok guys sorry to all that I may have sent off on the 60yards thing, I guess I just dident really know I thought it was just me that dident want to shoot more then 35yards and be comfortable with it but now I realize its not and after this I really am gonna try the WB out it does have more plus's then minus's as to what I have heard. Thanks guys! :coolgleam