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1fife
07-25-2006, 04:12 PM
What is the minimum lbs?
not one that could kill onc ein a liftime, but what should one have
im thinking for a youth
FREEPOP
07-25-2006, 04:17 PM
has been done with 35-40 lbs many times
Use a cut on contact head
Backwoods-Savage
07-25-2006, 06:04 PM
For a recurve, I've shot deer with 42 pounds. Furthest was 35 yards. Using a Bear Razorhead 145 grains. All my deer shot with a recurve have been broadside shots in the lungs. One day my buddy shot a doe....a very poor shot that I really gave him the what not for even trying the shot. He was shooting a 45 lb recurve. We tracked that doe for about 100 yards and found her piled up. He lucked out and go the artery in the hind quarter. NO. I would not recommend this at all and I still was put out with him even though we got it.
Compount I'd try to go 50 lbs but probably 40 would do the job and I agree with the cut on contact with a light bow. But I don't necessarily recommend a light weight head. There will be all sorts of theory on this one....
I have been fortunate enough to work with many young hunters and get them started in their journey to becoming bow slinging, deer killing machines. I am pretty sure Michigan has no requirements on poundage(calibers, yes…poundage, no…). But a good start is 35# in my opinion. There are ways to get a 35# bow to be effective and proficient at taking whitetails. Shot placement is the biggest. You can also play around with broadheads (stay away from mechanicals with that kind of poundage) and arrow size/weight. Kids will build up the poundage fast for the first month or so, keep them pullin’ and shootin’ and they will bump up quick.
Beck
sullyxlh
07-25-2006, 07:58 PM
the sharper the head the better,they aren't never sharp enough right out of the box,don't go to lite an arrow you'll lose kinetic energy at the point of impact,keep your shots inside 20yds,I would think 35lbs would be your very mininum DW
ice bandit
07-25-2006, 09:49 PM
The first deer i slayed was at 20 yards with a #40 darton, with mechanicals. lost some kenetic energy but it still penetrated enough to kill her.
Michihunter
07-25-2006, 11:42 PM
I have been fortunate enough to work with many young hunters and get them started in their journey to becoming bow slinging, deer killing machines. I am pretty sure Michigan has no requirements on poundage(calibers, yes…poundage, no…). But a good start is 35# in my opinion. There are ways to get a 35# bow to be effective and proficient at taking whitetails. Shot placement is the biggest. You can also play around with broadheads (stay away from mechanicals with that kind of poundage) and arrow size/weight. Kids will build up the poundage fast for the first month or so, keep them pullin’ and shootin’ and they will bump up quick.
Beck
:yeahthat: :yeahthat:
I agree 100%;)
Rasher
07-26-2006, 09:15 AM
I personally know a lady archer that has killed many deer with 25# and a few elk with 45# compounds, she is proof that shot placement is ''EVERYTHING''. IMHO you should use a cut on contact head on anything under 60#, also imho 35-40# should be the very least you should use or let this person use. For arrow heads when I was that age I used Bear super razor heads 125 gr. awsome heads, you might look at the new sonic heads too they say they fly like field points.
Sampsons_owner
07-26-2006, 10:59 AM
Long ago the state womens record whitetail was shot with a 25 # compound. I am not sure if it stil holds the record.
My son started hunting at 12 and could only pull 30 lbs. The bow tech chose a arrow weight and tip that retained enough energy at 20 yds to kill.
It pays to go to the techs for setup. Just my .02 worth, S
Skinner 2
07-26-2006, 12:07 PM
Michigan useed to have a minimum poundage for deer. This was 45 pounds. I do not think it has been changed but you may want to verify this.
Skinner s
Michihunter
07-26-2006, 12:15 PM
No minimum for archery!!;)
roger23
07-26-2006, 12:22 PM
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10366_37141_37706-31578--,00.html
This from DNR site
wackmaster
07-26-2006, 02:52 PM
Would Muzzy 75 3 blade fit the job?? If not what ones would do the best?:chillin:
FREEPOP
07-26-2006, 02:59 PM
Personally I like Steel Force but Magnus and other make ones very similar. I think that type of design is best for lower poundages.
http://www.steelforce.com/images/20203.jpg
Skinner 2
07-26-2006, 06:57 PM
Skinner 2
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1. Is there a minimum draw weight to hunt white tail in Michigan?
2. My son turns 12 Nov 6, when is the earliest he can take hunters safety?
http://midnr.custhelp.com/rnt/rnw/img/trnsp.gif Answer There is no minimum draw weight for archery equipment to hunt whitetail deer in Michigan.
Your son can take a hunter safety course at any time, however, he must be at least 12 years old in order to purchase a hunting licence. In his case now, he can take hunter safety now but he must wait untill Nov. 6th to purchase the hunting license.
Would Muzzy 75 3 blade fit the job?? If not what ones would do the best?:chillin:
I would start with a cut on contact, but you are going to have to play around with this stuff, everyone has an opinion on what’s best. My daughter shoots 35# but is using 85 grain thunderheads (going against my advice), because that’s what she is comfortable with. And being comfortable =confidence, and confidence = better shooting. She sees thunderheads on some of my stuff and she wants that, and unfortunately for me what she wants she usually gets.
Joe Archer
07-27-2006, 12:57 PM
The more weight the youth can pull, obviously the better. However, if a 12 year old can only handle 30 pounds, they can effectively take deer at 10 yards. They need a well tuned set-up and shoud only take a clean broadside shot. At ten yards, with quality 75-85 grain broadheads, and tuned carbon arrows you can expect a pass through with 30 pounds. At 20 yards, the same holds true with about 40 pound draw weight.
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