New Sight Recommendations

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Well this "old bull" is out to pasture and retirement is great but, with getting older, my eye sight has advantages and disadvantages.
I've been shooting a TRUGLO, horizontal pin sight, which I think the pins may be causing me some problems. They appeared to cover up a nice buck last fall (low light) and needless to say, I missed him completely :rant: (a miss is better than a wounded buck). I find when I'm shooting target, that I'm moving the sight from right to left because some of the sight picture is covered by the pins. (right handed)
During conversation with a couple friends, they're suggesting a sight with vertical pins. I don't have a problem changing sights, but I'd certainly like some suggestions and/or recommendations from anyone who has used them.
I prefer a 4 or even a 5 pin sight and have been checking out the Trophy Ridge, "Guide Series" - Micro Matrix.
Does anyone shoot this sight?
I'll certainly take any suggestions.

[Kelly Johnson]

Have you thought about a single pin setup?

I use one for reasons of simplicity but the one I have is so bright it looks plugged in. Uncluttered sight picture, pright as you can get, rugged and simple.

http://www.impactarchery.com/images_products/bg_omega.jpg

Not sure a verticle will be the answer but maybe

[Grouse Hunter]

I had a trophy ridge sight, actually a couple. I found that they did not lock down that well. I called them about it and they had redesigned a part and sent it out to me. Worked better. Customer service is very good. The vert pins are nice, but they take a little to get used to. As KJ suggested take aloot at the single pin sights. HHA makes some great ones.

[Ferris_StateHunter]

Just bought one early in the spring and love it! the micro matrix that is... Nice bright sight and so far have not had any problems with anything, everything I have read and heard from people customer service is awesome.. the only recommendation I would have for ya is make sure you get the .029 size instead of the .019 definately a difference and for older eyes I think they might be easier, but try them out and see what you like. I bought mine on ebay ( got a great deal on it) and couldnt be happier with my decision.. Good luck this season with your new sight whichever ya choose

[TnRidge]

I use a Cobra easy slide single pin sight similar to the style that Kelly posted a pic. of . It is extremly bright ,with just a single small pin to focus on .
It is easy to sight in ,and I keep it locked down at 20- 25 yards when I'm hunting .
HHA also makes some very good single pin sights .

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Ok, here's another question...
I read an article the other day in an archery magazine, from a guy that was an archery instructor. He stated that focusing on the sight pin was a common mistake. He teaches archers to focus on the point of intended impact and let the sight pin float to that point. As I read it, he appeared to be comparing it against shooting iron sights on a rifle, where you position the front and rear sight then lock on to the target. With archery it appeared that he was instructing the opposite.
What's your take on this?

I've considered a single pin, but I'm concerned with my ability to properly adjust for distance with a single pin. I would rather NOT take a shot than to only wound an animal. I ALWAYS use a range finder from my stands to determine distance to spicific trees, etc. Sometimes even tieing range markers.
Currently with my existing setup of 3 horizontal pins and most likely my style of shooting, there appears to be a considerable distance from my short range pin to the long range pin. Practice and consistency is a must for me and I shoot every day for a couple months prior to hunting.
Ok, it was driving me nuts, so I did some rough measurements. There's approximately 3/16" between my 20 and 30 yd pins and 1/2" between the 20 and 40 yd pins. (Don't go nuts on me about that 40 yd pin guys.... conditions would have to be better than excellent for me to take that long shot, but I do practice at 40 yds.)
I'm shooting a Mathews "Outback" at 70#.

[SA ULTRA MAG]

I'll certainly take any suggestions.

I use a single vertical "Vital Gear" sight and it is awesome. The fiber-optics have glow tape under it so that the pins glow well after dark. Hit it with your flashlite in the morning and it will glow until daylight.

I will have one of their new 3 pin anglular sights soon.

Check them out here......

http://www.vitalgear.net/sights.cfm

[Kelly Johnson]

He teaches archers to focus on the point of intended impact and let the sight pin float to that point.

Exactly. Always.
I can't speak as to differences with a gun because I just don't shoot them much.

As for the slider...

Common practice is to set it at 20-25-27 yards....as far as you can get and still make the close shot with that by aiming just a low.
Anything past that is generally far enough away to give you a little room to move and adjust the sight a little farther out if needed.

If you use a rangefinder all the time you can set the sight up every 5 yards or every yard if your anal about it.

And I'll never raz anyone for having pins at any yardage. Heck I have an 80-90 and 100 on one of mine and my hunting sight goes to 70;)

While 35 or so is my max distance for a first shot...If the animal is still standing and after the first and I have a shot at 65 for a second arrow in??

Better believe I'll take it and I'm able to do so both with my equipment and the confidence from shooting at that range (and a lot farther) on a regular basis.:one_eye:

[bowhunter81305]

I just bought the Hind Sight Eclispe and I love it so far. It was real easy to sight in. And it comes with a fiber light for low light conditions. I just started shooting with this sight and I have not had the chance to hunt with it yet. So far my groups are very consistant. This sight uses a rear sight in addition to a front sight (TruGlo Tru-Site Xtreme) to eleminate bow tourque. I am not sure how it works on failing eye sight, but I really like the sight. Here is pic of it. It goes for around $119.00 including taxes at Bas pro or direct off there sight http://www.hindsightco.com/hs/. Here is a pic of the sight. I would be very curious to know if anyone else uses or has used this sight. I could nto found alot of review for this sight, but what i did find seemed real positive.

http://hires.basspro.com/is/servlet/izoom/BassPro/95001?layer=comp&wid=500&hei=500&fmt=jpeg&qlt=100,0&op_sharpen=0&resMode=trilin&op_usm=0.0,1.0,0.0,0&iccEmbed=0

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Exactly. Always.

As for the slider...

Common practice is to set it at 20-25-27 yards....as far as you can get and still make the close shot with that by aiming just a low.
Anything past that is generally far enough away to give you a little room to move and adjust the sight a little farther out if needed.
Could you please explain "the slider" ?

[fulldraw]

May I reccomend Viper sights, bought them last year and let me tell you I can see my pins in all most zero light conditions. They are .029 in dia. with 6" of fiber and man are they awesome. You can also get magnifications lense for them to. I would probley not hunt with any other sight, if I could afford to put them on all of my bows I would.

[Lil' Tanker]

vital bow gear
use a single pin, it works well in low light conditions.
If you practice like you should than you will know where to hold the single pin on the deer at longer ranges.

[Swamp Ghost]

http://www.fusearchery.com/sights/images/intrepid.gif
http://www.fusearchery.com/options/images/housing-pivot.jpg

http://www.fusearchery.com/sights/

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I'm still reading ;)
Something keeps telling me that I should at least try the vertical pins. Maybe the local archery shop will mount one for me to try.
I'm nearsighted and wear contacts. As I have gotten older, reading glasses with the contacts is a requirement for anything close. My ability to see distant is EXCELLENT and maybe a little better. This may have something to do with my concern with horizonal pins. It just seems to me that they're blocking some of my sight picture in low light and causing me to search for my target. I use a large rear peep, one that separates the string into 3 sections. Any smaller diameter hole and any type of low light shooting would be out of the question. I've tried the kisser buttons, but I shot like I was shooting a recurve again without sights :sad:
My daylight shooting is good and consistent. Its the low light shooting that seems to be causing this "old bull" problems.

Thanks guys for all the advice..... again, I'm still reading :)

[Rackdaddy153]

Any one try one of these??? I am thinking about this for my birthday present to myselfhttp://www.hhasports.com/images/ol-mrs.jpg

[beararch#1]

Impact Archery Sights.

[Gilbey]

I've purchased the HHA slider in the last 6 mos. I absoutely love it. Top quality construction and pin brightness IMO 2nd to none. Best thing that I've bought in the off season.

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Its great to see all the different recommendations. Its just too darn bad that we don't have an outdoor store up this way. Closest is Gaylord. It sure would make a lot of people happy if they'd put in a Gander Mountain in Alpena. It would sure beat Wal-Mart ;)
I'm going to have to make the trip to Jay's in Gaylord and check out some of the suggestions that have been posted.
I do have to change from the horizontal pins. Pretty sure of that.
Thanks guys.......

[uptracker]

Trophy Ridge

[Marbler]

Encore, I had the same exact problem with the trueglo sight. I switched to the G.W.S. single pin sight in the picture below your post and eliminated all of that. Best of all I picked it up for under 40 dollars on ebay! It has the brightest pin I have seen.

[ChasinSprints]

I have the Hindsight Extreme mounted to my PSE Firestorm Lite and couldn't think of any other kind of sight I would want to use. My eyesight too has changed with age (multifocal glasses) but have no problem quickly getting the sights lined up on the target wheather being on the ground or up in the treestand. Proof was in the pudding with a nice 7 pt the first week of bow season last year. I had a similar sight system on an Oneida Eagle back some 20 years ago that was called a Superior Sight i believe, it was just basically a flat plate that mounted to the riser with an open circle ring, no crosshairs but was really a great product back then. The Hindsight is a great option, especially for those that have some vision defects that make it difficult to use the peep sights on the bowstring.

[wackmaster]

I would go with a tru glo, Dont clear out your wallet and is one hell of a sight I got one all aluminum frame and it has a blue light in the ring which when turned on shines derrectly onto the pins and they glow like a christmas tree. The ring around the pins also glow in the dark so in low light sticks out like a sore thumb. just my 2 cents

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Well after a lot of consideration and the chance to get a deal beyond my imagination in price, I've decided to go with the Trophy Ridge, Micro Matrix, 5 pin. For what I'm having to pay for this NEW sight, if I don't like it, I'll surely be able to get my money back and make someone that wants it a happy hunter!!
The idea of the vertical pins has been my goal. Looking at just the home page of www.trophyridge.com (http://www.trophyridge.com) has helped me make my mind up. NOT because of the brand, but because of the pictures showing the vertical pins vs the horizonal pins.
I couldn't get the light with the sight, so I'll have to order it from Cabela's. Supposidly....they claim that it will not cause a halo around the pins.
Thanks for all the recommendations and advice :)
I should get the sight in a couple weeks. Can't wait to try'er out ;)

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Well I've been shooting with the Trophy Ridge Micro Matrix for 3 days now and I'm very happy with the sight. It amaized me the difference between the horizonal and vertical pins.
Pretty impressed with the ease of adjusting. I believe that I'm going to be happy with this sight. I'd certainlly recommend that vertical pins should be looked at.
Now.... practice, practice and try not to miss....:lol: ;)

[WALLEYEvision]

Any one try one of these??? I am thinking about this for my birthday present to myselfhttp://www.hhasports.com/images/ol-mrs.jpg
What's this guy all about Rackdaddy153? I use an HHA single pin a never seen this guy before. Thanks!

[ChasinSprints]

[quote=bowhunter81305]I just bought the Hind Sight Eclispe and I love it so far. It was real easy to sight in. And it comes with a fiber light for low light conditions. I just started shooting with this sight and I have not had the chance to hunt with it yet. So far my groups are very consistant. This sight uses a rear sight in addition to a front sight (TruGlo Tru-Site Xtreme) to eleminate bow tourque. I am not sure how it works on failing eye sight, but I really like the sight.



I have the hindsight extreme with I believe is a great asset for all of us that are visually hindered. Extremely easy to get the sight on the deer and the real key is consistent alignment, wheather you are in the tree stand or on the ground. Due to my visual defects of shall we say aging, a regular peep sight did not do the trick, as focus was a problem, but with the hindsight being just a bit farther out it was much easier to align the sight and get on target. Hey, the proof is in the freezer.

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When I installed the Matrix, I moved my peep up and changed my holding point. I was able to get my eye closer to the peep, which helped considerably. The readjustment to the change didn't take long and my groups started to tighten up quite well. Its actually more comfortable.
I did some shooting in low light last night and was happy with my shooting. Trophy Ridge furnished a couple small glow sticks that slip into a drilled hole in the sight. They say it lights up the pins and will not cause a halo. I didn't try one last night, but maybe tonight. The glow sticks could get expensive, but Cabelas sells a light for that Trophy Ridge that also is supposed to fit into that drilled hole and not cause a halo on the pins either. Anyone have any knowledge on this?