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ulrichdebrus
07-08-2006, 04:21 AM
Yesterday, I fished Fletcher's Floodwaters. For years not it has been my absolute favorite fishing paradise. See Fletcher's is the place for pike (http://oscoda.blogspot.com/2006/05/fletchers-is-place-for-pike.html)

Yesterday's trip is significant because it was the second in two weeks in which I caught northerns that had something seriously metabollically wrong. I am not sure if they are bearing some septic or otherwise man-made toxin or if they are diseased in the viral or bacterological sense. What I do know is that one that I cleaned two weeks ago had dandelion-yellow flesh. Yes, it's meat was yellow and the liver spewed a yellow bile-looking substance. THAT pike had an extraordinarily high amount of slime that coated the dead fish. They ALL get slimy after a few hours but this was, as I said, excessive.

Yesterday's three legal northerns that I and my mother caught (3 out of 10), after just an hour out of water, smelled quite very much like that of feces. I was prompted to check my shoes to see if I had stepped in some. I again smelled it in the car and upon drawing those fish out of the trunk of the car it was clear: the smell was coming from the pike and reeked very much of dog scat.

Now, mind you, the pike of late there have become amazingly agressive. While I am sure some have fished there lately and might disagree, my own personal experience of Fletcher's is that during June and so far in July I have witnessed northern agressiveness unlike anything in 35 years of fishing. Admittedly, I am now spending 90 plus percent of my time fishing with Aglias.

Could the two be related, I wonder. I have seen pike that had something seriously wrong with them medically and I have, in the same month, seen agressive fish unlike anything that could sensibly be referred to as the norm. I mean, yesterday a dogfish snapped at me quite deliberately and with aim and sliced my finger. Be warned: these fish have powerful jaws and, as I now know, very sharp teeth.

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dafuriousfisherman
07-08-2006, 09:17 AM
interesting very interesting.......

sullyxlh
07-08-2006, 10:08 AM
you might want to try cross posting this in wildlife diseases,I am interested in finding out what that might be too...

gunrod
07-08-2006, 10:12 AM
Contact the fisheries biologists through the DNR site. They may already know what is going on or be interested in checking it out for you.

bad400man
07-08-2006, 11:21 AM
i to have found a similar problem in a nice 38" pike that i had cought up there but it was in late jan. the fish was super slimy and smelled like crap also the belly on this fish was a bright yellow. has anyone ever seen the belly on a pike be bright yellow?

The Whale
07-10-2006, 03:54 AM
Don't go in the water !!!

fishonbb
07-10-2006, 04:13 PM
Rabid fish?

ulrichdebrus
07-10-2006, 09:45 PM
Well, the word 'rabid' does imply a specific disorder but yes, the fish I speak of ARE acting rather rabid in the looser sense. When I view the photo of the 29-incher that I nabbed a few weeks ago, it is blatantly obvious now that what I spoke of was pretty evident on the outside of that fish, had I known to be looking for it. I see a lot of different variations and shadings of colors with many fish so I didn't blink much when I saw another variation with this fish but as you can see via the link below that this fish was pretty YELLOW on the outside as well.

Fletcher's is the place for pike (http://oscoda.blogspot.com/2006/05/fletchers-is-place-for-pike.html) (I am not so sure anymore.) It probably won't be until tomorrow (Tuesday) that I hear anything from the DNR on this, if that soon. I will keep this forum updated.

Most disorders, including diseases, alter the particular combination of hormones, enzymes, endorphins (and what not) that might be flowing through a particular organism and that chemical makeup, to a large extent, dictates the behavior of the animal. An animal cannot escape its chemistry.