Block Permits

[bear catcher]

Recently a farmer friend of mine asked me if I would help him rid his land of some deer with 5 block permits he's received from "you know who" and I declined because I have a problem. If deer range up to two miles, why can someone shoot these deer out of season just because they're roaming thru this guys 300 or 400 acres. The part that really stinks is I could have shot any buck with 3" or better antlers also! How's a guy who waits for the regular season to open ever get a chance. On this land say, if all the neighbors are QDM or something and ole Mister Boone and Crockett steps out.........How many BC's do ya let get shot in July before enough is enough!

[hunting man]

He has to take action to protect the cash crops he has invested his money and time into. Normal AG practice. He isnt farming just to feed deer. His idea is to make a living off the cash crops the deer tend to eat. Deer become a nuisance.

I am under the impression the permits are anterless only.

[bear catcher]

I was first told by the land owner that bucks 3 inches or larger were legal. He was very wrong! It's 3 inches or smaller.
I still don't like the idea of shooting a doe thats still nursing fawns.

[Bowslayer]

Well, if you don't want to then I will!!!:) Where's the guy live?:) My freezer is just about empty of venison.
Seriousely, not all does are nursing and he's just out to save some crops. And if you make nice w/ said landowner, then maybe that could lead you to further opportunities to hunt the land during the regular season.

[4x4_Hunter]

I understand some complaints from farmers but only to an extent. Instead of these "block permits", why not come up with some sort of crop damage reimbursement plan? Yeah, these farmers have some money stuck into the crops but not as much as a lot of hunters have stuck into hunting land/cabins to hunt. The state will lose money by giving out these permits because they are going to lose thousands of dollars in tags of hunters around the area. No one is going to buy additional tags if they aren't seeing deer. We use to see hundreds of deer out in the fields around us and now since the block permits were issued around the area, you are lucky to even see a deer in the same fields. Also, I know for a fact that deer don't do as much damage (some areas can be different) than do woodchucks and coons.

Nobody seems to want to spend extra time and efforts to hunt them.

[Gilbey]

I understaned both sides here. And I would probably have to side that somebody's living is more important than that of a sportsman. No offense, trust me, I've got two farmers in the area. It sounds like WWIII, and on top of that, I can tgell that last year they did some damage.

But...if I was on the flip side of the coin..........I'd shoot as many as possible if I was watching my pocket book get light.

Do I like that it diminishes the amount of deer. Of course not. But can still understand it.

[hunting man]

Thats like saying the farmer should give up 1/3 to 1/2 his income for you the deer hunter.

[wild bill]

better yet how about getting the fur price of a coon back up so more people will target them. honestly i would say most of the crop damage to corn is done by coons compared to deer.

[boehr]

I understand some complaints from farmers but only to an extent. Instead of these "block permits", why not come up with some sort of crop damage reimbursement plan?Because hunters can't afford it, plain and simple.

[riverman]

Yeah, these farmers have some money stuck into the crops but not as much as a lot of hunters have stuck into hunting land/cabins to hunt. .

:sad: :help: :gaga:

[bear catcher]

Boehr,
I have a question.
When I saw the paperwork for these block permits, my name and another man's were stated as the designated hunters for these permits. I hunted at the farm last Sunday afternoon and it sounded like opening day. I dropped a lone doe and used one of their 5 permits. At the time that this farmer applied for the permits, nobody at the farm wanted to hunt. That afternoon his two younger brothers and four of their friends were there shooting at deer. With only 5 permits I see a big problem but is it legal for those guys not on the paperwork to shoot deer? This farmer would want to know if he was breaking the law.

[Ferg]

Boehr,
I have a question.
When I saw the paperwork for these block permits, my name and another man's were stated as the designated hunters for these permits. I hunted at the farm last Sunday afternoon and it sounded like opening day. I dropped a lone doe and used one of their 5 permits. At the time that this farmer applied for the permits, nobody at the farm wanted to hunt. That afternoon his two younger brothers and four of their friends were there shooting at deer. With only 5 permits I see a big problem but is it legal for those guys not on the paperwork to shoot deer? This farmer would want to know if he was breaking the law.


BC - I moved this question over to the LAW Forum that Ray moderates so everyone can get the information -

thanks

ferg...