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walleye express
06-07-2006, 08:20 PM
For those of you who didn't know, Hampton Townships Finn Road ramp is being dredged and will re-open around the 4th of July weekend. That's according to the company owner/foreman who was hired too dredge the 1400 foot long cut that runs from Finn Road park to the Saginaw Bay. Many of you might be too young to remember that at one time there were 3 decent ramps between the mouth of the Saginaw River and Quanicassee. Taceys Landing, Knight Road Harbor and lastly, the Finn Road ramp. All were great and strategic areas to both get on the bay, and be right where the walleyes, bass, ducks and muskrats were for many years, before the Great Lakes lost her 40 inches of water. And All these ramps have been out of commission for roughly 8 years now because of that fact.

So at the Hampton Townships last Spring meeting, when the dredging question came up again for debate, along with motions to use both grant and Township moneys for the dredging project, there was standing room only. And none were there to talk against the move, but for it. So it was passed and the work started a few weeks ago. The township will also start charging a launch fee to recoup their $60,000plus investment. That's the good news. But after my long talk with the contractor today at the ramp site, as always, there has to be some bad news as well. And this bad news came from a simple lack of communication and knowledge of the existing conditions at the site.

The contractors obligations under their contract with the township, is to remove 2,500 cubic yards of sediment from the cut. They figured they would start near the end of the cut, where the cement walkway ends. They would dredge the cut 3 feet deep and 30 feet wide well out into the bay, while making barriers on it's east side to prevent wind-fill. They would guarantee their work for 3 years. They were told that the cut was still 3 feet deep out to that point, so their sediment barge would float down the cut to that negotiated starting point.

Well, when they tried to launch their barge at the ramp, she bottomed out in the actual 2 feet of water that is there. This meant that they had to dredge ahead as they went, to even get to the negotiated starting point in the cut. This sediment of course was/is counted against the 2,500 CY they contracted to haul away. You can see by the picture that they are now where they thought they were originally going to start, and have hauled roughly 1,000 CY of sediment so far. They have however dredged 4 feet deep and 35 feet wide.

And now the worse news. They have not been asked or contracted to dredge the Ramp turn around basin itself. So even though the cut will be deep and wide enough for bigger boats in the straight away part of the cut, you'll never get a boat bigger than 16 feet sporting a 10 horse in at the ramp area to use it. The whole project could be ruined by leaving the 300 to 400 cubic yards of sediment in the ramp turn around area. I'm guessing/hoping that they will see this mistake and contract the original dredger, or use their own equipment to rectify this SNAFU.

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This is the ramp basin that is not (so far) scheduled to be dredged.

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Priority1
06-07-2006, 11:08 PM
TYVM for the info. :)

gmalicoat
06-08-2006, 01:48 AM
Thanks cap-i had no idea

Westlakedrive
06-08-2006, 02:45 AM
Good posts with some nice pics. Unfortunately the first impression I had after reading it was that the channel was dredged deeper and wider than it was contracted for in a possible attempt to drive up the cost of the project.

soulfish86
06-08-2006, 06:44 AM
Was once a decent place to launch, but never was very deep. I don't see how there would ever be enough traffic from there to recover costs. Finn rd.used to be a hot spot for spring walleye fishing. I thought that shallow clear water had turned that shore into cattail and weed city,.

walleye express
06-08-2006, 08:36 AM
Was once a decent place to launch, but never was very deep. I don't see how there would ever be enough traffic from there to recover costs. Finn rd.used to be a hot spot for spring walleye fishing. I thought that shallow clear water had turned that shore into cattail and weed city,.

I've been there on days when you couldn't find a place to park anywhere after launching. I was also surprised as well yesterday to see the Finn Rd. Park with both travel trailers and boats parked in it. Some of course are simply being stored there, but a few were still actually camping. And your right about the weeds to a degree, but friends of mine who like fishing the weed beds and edges have continually taken limits of smaller/keeper walleyes all summer, even during that Hot spell last year when things dried up on the central bay for everybody else. I do believe the township would get enough traffic from guys in all size boats, who simply wanted to cut that long trip from Hoyles or the DNR ramp at the river mouth, to an almost straight shot out to Callahan or Coreon Bar/Reef. I personally believe it is a worth wild project if done right to accept all size vessels from the beginning. I'll be making an appointment this morning with the township Supervisor to see if he knows and understands how not dredging the ramp basin will effect the predicted traffic.

No Mas
06-08-2006, 09:35 AM
Just wondering if the township is planning on putting any navigation aides out there? I mean lights!! I can't imagine trying to find that channel in the dark. For those people who don't know the area it will be really tough. Everything looks the same now. I remeber at the end of Finn Rd. they had a blinking strobe light that you could see from the water, but I don't think it's working now? Any idea how far out they would run the bouys? You'll be seeing a lot of duck boats this fall...

Tom

walleye express
06-08-2006, 09:48 AM
O.K..

Heres the straight Poop from the Township Supervisors lips not 10 minutes ago when we talked. The Core of engineers and the DEQ has given the township a 10 year license to remove sediment and debris from the cut and surrounding area. The township became more aware of the ramp basin (shallow) problem recently and had a meeting on it 4 days ago. They plan on using their own equipment to dredge out the basin. If they cannot adequately accomplish this task, they will contract the work to have it properly cleaned. The ramp/dock itself is scheduled to be refurbished as well.

In the townships view, any sediment removed thus far should not count against the contracted 2,500 Cubic yards agreed apon. The Supervisor believes (as do I) being it's the contractors business to know and estimate what work (or any extra) a job like this might include, should have been considered during his bid for the job. And that this mistake made, should be shouldered by the contractor. How this will play out is not clear at this time.

They also had a meeting last night to consider the launch fee charges when the launch opens. None of these suggestion are in stone yet, but only starting points to consider. $50.00 for a yearly launch sticker. $6.00 per day launch fee. $25.00 yearly, for people staying at and using the Hampton Park.
I'll report any more news when and if I hear it, and go back in a couple weeks to do an update and take some more pictures.

walleye express
06-08-2006, 09:51 AM
Just wondering if the township is planning on putting any navigation aides out there? I mean lights!! I can't imagine trying to find that channel in the dark. For those people who don't know the area it will be really tough. Everything looks the same now. I remeber at the end of Finn Rd. they had a blinking strobe light that you could see from the water, but I don't think it's working now? Any idea how far out they would run the bouys? You'll be seeing a lot of duck boats this fall...

Tom


Yes. That was included in the bid. I think I heard that they are going to put a range light at the end of the walkway and another at the end of the new channel. Having bouys is only good sense (and may be a State or CG law) and I'm sure will be included as well.

luckibuck14
06-08-2006, 11:58 AM
Did they say when the new date was to open up the launch since they have to do all this extra work?? Sounds to me it prolly won't be open this year.

walleye express
06-08-2006, 12:30 PM
Did they say when the new date was to open up the launch since they have to do all this extra work?? Sounds to me it prolly won't be open this year.


Actually, the contractor said it would be open by the 4th of july weekend. Considering all the variables I mentioned and the time used to rectify them, the cut is dredged right now with only about 50 yards left before they hit the Bay Shore.

Ralph Smith
06-09-2006, 07:17 AM
Thanks for info. Have done a couple pig roast/graduation parties there in the last 5 years, and its a nice little campground. The pavilion for parties has water and lighting if needed. Might be doing one for my son there next year:D Will have to bring the boat this time I guess.

Hey Dan, have you heard anything about them dredging jones rd? I thought after they put in the cement ramp there, they were suppose to dredge it out. It's a shorter distance to the bay there, but haven't heard anymore on it in a couple years.

luckibuck14sgirl
06-09-2006, 07:18 AM
will we be using this ramp instead of the dnr on patterson?

walleye express
06-09-2006, 08:24 AM
Thanks for info. Have done a couple pig roast/graduation parties there in the last 5 years, and its a nice little campground. The pavilion for parties has water and lighting if needed. Might be doing one for my son there next year:D Will have to bring the boat this time I guess.

Hey Dan, have you heard anything about them dredging jones rd? I thought after they put in the cement ramp there, they were suppose to dredge it out. It's a shorter distance to the bay there, but haven't heard anymore on it in a couple years.


The DNR aquired that ramp and let it go the way that the others did. I know it would take way less effort (and money) to get that ramp back in shape than it is for the Finn road launch. I haven't a clue why it's been abandoned.

walleye express
06-09-2006, 02:05 PM
Came awful close to having the Finn Road Ramp project come to a screaching hault last night. Around 7:15pm a call came in to hampton Fire dept. that a fire was burning along the Bay shore that was started at the end of Finn Road. It took almost 6 hours before the fire could be put out, as it burned 70 to 100 yards wide all the way East downshore to Melan Road, about 1 mile East of Finn. The DNR fire buldozer got ahead of the fire and cut a fire break to stop it. If the dredging equipment had been parked on the east side of the cut, it very well could have went up in the blaze. I talked to the DNR dozer driver and he said the fire was being put in the books as suspecious, and most likely was started on purpose. Whatever happened to skipping stones, making rubber band guns or any of the things that kids can do and not risk a fellony attached to them.

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quackassassin
06-09-2006, 02:45 PM
I was out on the bay fishing last nite and there was enough smoke billowing to tell it was a large blaze. Appeared from where we were west of the island that there were two seperate fires. They are lucky with the stiff wind that it was finally contained.