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milmo1
04-12-2006, 10:16 PM
What do you guys spool on your handlining reels. Not the lines to the lures, but the mainline to the shanks, etc.
Thanks...




Hotwired
04-12-2006, 10:26 PM
Mason Multistrand 60lb "uncoated".
7 strand stainless steel wire.
Less drag in the water.

zfubar20
04-13-2006, 12:06 AM
Mason Multistrand 60lb coated, The only reason that I use coated is because it is easier on the hands. But, I have tried both, I just think it is the preference of the person myself with coated or non coated.

Houghton laker
04-13-2006, 04:30 AM
Mason Multistrand 60lb "uncoated".
7 strand stainless steel wire.
Less drag in the water.


:yeahthat: I have Brick layer hands,,,toughened up so the Uncoated line doesn't bother me at all!! no gloves....I may wrap 1 piece of surgical tape around the first joint in my middle finger.

DAHKINGFISH
04-13-2006, 04:33 AM
I never could figure out the thrill of handlining. What got you guys into it? What's the fun of not feeling the fish fight?? :tdo12:

Hotwired
04-13-2006, 06:09 AM
What's the fun of hooking a fish with a "bendable" stick in your hands and a reel attached to that stick that lets line out automatically (drag) when the fish decides to make a run.

Try hooking a nice walleye holding a wire and playing the line in and out with your hands every time it makes a run. Believe me, you'll feel it alright.

Also you are doing this while trying to dodge a bunch of guys with "bendable" sticks in thier hands. :lol:

alex-v
04-13-2006, 07:19 AM
It is fishing at it's basic. There is no rod or reel as Howwired brings up. The reel that is used is there to hold the line so it is not all over the floor and has nothing to do with playing the fish.

Once the fisher gets the hang of wirelining he or she can tell what type of botton is under the water--sand, gravel, clay, big rocks-- can feel the difference between a Walleye hit and a Sheepshead hit and a Bass hit.

Pulling wire successfully requires much more boat control and line control than rod and reel trolling.

Uncoated line-- less drag in the water and this means the line does not bow out making for better control of the lures in waters that are often over 30 feet deep.

fish eater
04-13-2006, 07:27 AM
I never could figure out the thrill of handlining. What got you guys into it? What's the fun of not feeling the fish fight?? :tdo12:


Are you for real? You've never caught a fish pullin wire have you? Cuz if you have, you'd know that you feel way more detail than you do with a bendable rod. The thrill of that "tug-tug" is just awesome.:cool:

slowpoke
04-13-2006, 07:51 AM
Are you for real? You've never caught a fish pullin wire have you? Cuz if you have, you'd know that you feel way more detail than you do with a bendable rod. The thrill of that "tug-tug" is just awesome.:cool:
I never been handlining either but I bet you do get to feel the walleye fight better then with a rod.

Wall-llard Willie
04-13-2006, 08:27 AM
First of I've used coated and non (just 2 years ago). I'm sticking with the non, its a personal prefference but I agree that you get less resistance and maybe a little more feel out of the uncoated.

Got a uncle that never could get the hang of handlining. We were up in Port Huron one night and he's like my line feels funny I said bring it up and check it..... Had a 6 lber on and never knew it:confused: never could understand it:lol:

Wallywalleye
04-13-2006, 08:31 AM
Once you catch your first 5 to 6 lb. walleye on the 4' kicker, you'll understand what the appeal is. Also a 20# plus Muskie can be pretty exciting. WW

Big Frank 25
04-13-2006, 08:36 AM
Non-coated stainless steel wire. Only drawback, the groves in the rail were it has sawed through.

Less resistance.

kdogger
04-13-2006, 09:07 AM
never could figure out the thrill of handlining. What got you guys into it? What's the fun of not feeling the fish fight?? :tdo12:

Not any different than fishing with a tip-up.

Gone Fishing
04-13-2006, 09:22 AM
Walleye aren’t the best fighters but they are a lot of fun to catch on a handline. More so that trolling a crankbait back 120 feet and staring at the bent rod tip wondering if there is a fish on there. A King Salmon is a handful as well although it’s kind of rare to hook one. Now put a 50" Muskie or a big Sturgeon on the end of that handline and say a prayer!:p

Wareagle1
04-13-2006, 09:23 AM
My brother says pullin wire has all the attraction of pulling in the anchor line:lol:

Myself, I love to pull wire.

SuperHunter18
04-13-2006, 09:59 AM
I have never done it but am going to try for the first time this weekend.

I love all types of fishing and I am sure that I will be addicted to this as well. The way I look at it, is that it is another proven technique that will help you put more fish in the boat. One style of fishing is not ALWAYS going to work so it is in your best interest to have a large arsenal and several different techniques to try and increase your success ratio!

Tight Lines! See you guys out there this weekend.

Gone Fishing
04-13-2006, 10:08 AM
One style of fishing is not ALWAYS going to work so it is in your best interest to have a large arsenal and several different techniques to try and increase your success ratio!
Don't forget your jigging rod!:D ;)

Slippin'
04-13-2006, 10:11 AM
Handlining looks to be another tactic to become the complete walleye hunter. I've thought about making the investment for a numbers of years, but don't know if I'd enjoy it.

Anybody available to teach a greenhorn a new walleye trick? Have gas and refreshment money and an open mind to learn.

SuperHunter18
04-13-2006, 10:13 AM
Don't forget your jigging rod!:D ;)

Don't leave home without it!:lol:

The handlining will take place only after we have our limit from jigging to see if we can get the hang of it;)

Wishful Thinking!

ted stehney
04-13-2006, 10:19 AM
I have both coated and uncoated. I guess that I would prefer the uncoated. My bubbies all prefer the coated. I use the coated more often just to protect the fiberglass. I have seen a transom all tore up down under the waterline from someone pulling uncoated wire. It rubbed a few grooves into the glass. Ouch! the uncoated has thinner diamiter and more feel to it.

Gone Fishing
04-13-2006, 10:19 AM
Don't leave home without it!:lol:

The handlining will take place only after we have our limit from jigging to see if we can get the hang of it;)

Wishful Thinking!


I went down there one time with only my handlining gear. The water was crystal clear and the jiggers were hammering them. I can’t remember for sure but I don’t think I caught a fish that day and even the novice jigger probably got his limit. I’ve never been down there since without taking both! :)

bripow
04-13-2006, 12:42 PM
You sure are an instigator for a newbie. You keep firing everyone up like this you won't be welcome on my boat any longer. I am not going to be shunned by the MS community because of your mouth !
:lol::lol:


I never could figure out the thrill of handlining. What got you guys into it? What's the fun of not feeling the fish fight?? :tdo12:

DAHKINGFISH
04-13-2006, 01:24 PM
You sure are an instigator for a newbie. You keep firing everyone up like this you won't be welcome on my boat any longer. I am not going to be shunned by the MS community because of your mouth !
:lol::lol:

Hey- I was just poising a question wopirb. Never knew what handlining even was until recently.

milmo1
04-13-2006, 03:39 PM
...and i just asked about line...
Thanks for the info guys.
BTW, where can I get coated wire?

Hotwired
04-13-2006, 04:10 PM
In my garbage can. :lol:

MUSHY1
04-13-2006, 04:19 PM
Its all good, just different.......and its all still fishing......Thank God for that.....

Mushy

alex-v
04-13-2006, 06:22 PM
An experienced wireliner will get more fish with uncoated line. Day in and day out.

Coated wire does have more resistence in the water. Why do so many rod and reel trollers try to use the thinest line they can--because thin line has less water resistence, lets the lures dive deeper with less line out behind the boat, because thin line allows for a better feel of a hit and just knowing what is happening.

Remember that the coated line is actually more than twice as thick as uncoated--that is how thick the plastic coating is.

One other problem. As the coating gets older, and you will see it by the end of one season, the plastic coating starts to crack. As it does this it seperates from the wire and air pockets form. The line actually ends up with more resistence and a lot more wire has to be played out.

Houghton laker
04-13-2006, 06:42 PM
In my garbage can. :lol:


LMAO....:lol: Oh god....you crack me up sometimes!!

Big Frank 25
04-13-2006, 08:36 PM
Then the sinker lays out more. Snags easier.

sullyxlh
04-14-2006, 08:54 AM
...and i just asked about line...
Thanks for the info guys.
BTW, where can I get coated wire?try andys i think there off of dix in allen park they have anything and everything for handling,i like chuggin because of the solitude it offers away from the jiggers in the day,things can get pretty testy at times with them jigger boys,bouncing off boats and all...besides going out after dark,on the river,handlining,man there's nothing like it!!!your in your own little world,I love it

handliner
04-14-2006, 01:32 PM
When I first started pulling wire I would strip off the first 40 to 50 feet of 60lb nylon line and use a thin rubber maintenance glove or elastic finger protectors sold at Lakeside. I keep an A&S spooled up this way for beginners on my boat. This way they are handling the coated wire most of the time and our lines are out the same distance. The 60 coated and uncoated wire are the same diameter once the nylon is stripped (.021). Myself I prefer 60lb uncoated wire for the fact that I know that I have the least resistance possible in the water as stated earlier and always have a good feel for when the lure becomes fouled. The glove is only used if my hand gets cold and is taken off when my hand warms up a little.

1lesswoodchk
04-28-2006, 07:44 AM
[quote=handliner]When I first started pulling wire I would strip off the first 40 to 50 feet of 60lb nylon line

Thanks for the tip. I just bought 2 Rivera reels with coated wire. Going out tonight for the first time handlining. I think I will leave the nylon on till I get good with it.:dizzy:

S. Jett

Wirepuller
04-28-2006, 09:10 AM
I agree coated or uncoated is an individual thing. I chased a buddy around Monday, I got 5 (6# to 2#) he got 4 in the same time. The difference in coating is the speed you move. The important issue is where you place your lure and the angle of the drop line. If two people in the same boat use different lines someone will come up short. I use 60# Mason coated for my delicate fingures. I also went to using Power Pro on my 40 ft leader. Less birds nest in the retrieve and you get a better feel for nibblers.

Good Luck

SabikiRig
04-28-2006, 10:38 AM
I use what ever is on the reel and do not care if it is coated or uncoated.

I could care less about resistance. The differences between coated and uncoated are minimal and not even an issue in my book.

The uncoated wire may have a bit more sensitivity that is about all.

If I am fishing deeper water I use a longer shank (custom made w/ 3 clevis positions) and a 2 pound weight. If resistance is an issue the beads and clevis's for 3 positions have less resistance than the ones with 6 or more.

If I am fishing the Edison Stacks I run a 1-1/2 pound weight with a shorter shank.

If you have two reels with different line you can compensate the differences by changing weights or lure sizes. You could still cover alot of water with a rather wide presentation (lure size) to determine what the fish prefer that given day.

WALLEYEANGLER
04-29-2006, 12:15 AM
In my personal opinion I would only use A&S reels. Riviara or the black reels cause some serious backlashes and can cause you some serious fishing time. THis is really true when you are learning. I would take them back and buy A&S

eyecatcher
04-29-2006, 09:27 AM
I have an A&S , a St Clair, two Schalyers and a victrola box. I use the box or a Schalyer for the smoothest action reel. I use 7strand 60#Stainless uncoated wire. Mason hard leader and 1 1/4 to 2 pound weight depending a water depth. I hardly ever use a 4'or 6" kicker, I use 30' and 15" leaders most of the time. I think pulling wire is the purest form of fishing. You can feel ever stone on the bottom and when you get good at it you can tell which leader the fish hit just by the feel. I find with the whippers anchored on the river it is bcoming harder to hand line.

Houghton laker
04-29-2006, 05:08 PM
I use the box or a Schalyer for the smoothest action reel.


Hotwired ,converted me to the schallers and made me a believer!! Now he yells at me though because I haven't converted my passengers reel over to one yet!! As of this week though....I'll have the new brackets all set...so it will be twin schallers now on my boat!!:D