Blue spawn netting.

[thousandcasts]

Since this is a forum where most guys are trying new things and fishing most of the time with spawn, has anyone had success with tying bags on blue spawn netting? To me, it defies conventional wisdom to tie blue bags, but anyone who knows steelheading knows that sometimes the best action is when you get away from the same 'ol thing that steelhead see on an everyday basis.

So, has anyone had success with the blue netting and under what type of conditions?

[gomer]

I've tried clear water, stained water, small bags, big bags, skein bags, salmon egg bags, steelhead egg bags and I just can't get um to go...

Im just going to stick with the usual colors from now on!

[silversides]

Only idiots use blue netting. Ide rather toss on a rubber worm or something of that nature when the fish arn't biting the normal stuff. In my own personal experience, when the fish are not biting, no amount of shinanigans will make them change their minds, they just are not going to feed.

[live2fishdjs]

Cold clearer water I have done well on blue netting (smallish bags-although I have taken 2 on chokers that I can remember) and a couple chart floats (not the bright chart, the more subdued larger size). Summer trout can turn onto it as well. In my experience it was tough to make myself fish it and give it a fair shake on a given day, until you hang one.

If anyone has a source for pre-cut squares in blue (same goes for peach) I'm all ears as the only stuff I can find is in the long sheet from FishUSA and i hate cutting netting.

[Alpha Buck]

It seems if you are using good eggs and the presentation is decent any color will work if you put it on a group of active fish. If your talking about the turqouise looking blue stuff, I have a friend that uses it and have seen him hit fish on it. I have never bought it personally and probably will not anytime soon in the future.

[Trout King]

I must be an idiot for using the blue bags...but it's funny that this idiot has done pretty darn well the last couple weeks on them.

When I first saw them I thought it was odd, but after trying them I'm a firm believer they will catch fish.

[Oldgrandman]

I used spawn that had molded a blue color and it worked.
The fish were in and I didn't want to take the time to tie and that was all I had. Man did it stink too!
IMHO color is way over rated by the fisherman, when it comes to spawn.

[Fishndude]

Blue netting is super-secret. Shhhhhh.

[gomer]

live2fishdjs,

if the netting you are talking about is the kind i think it is, it comes wrapped around a flat piece of card board (not a tube). If you want pre-cut squares, just cut each side of the bundle, so you have all the pieces on top of the cardboard and all the pieces on the bottom.

[live2fishdjs]

live2fishdjs,

if the netting you are talking about is the kind i think it is, it comes wrapped around a flat piece of card board (not a tube). If you want pre-cut squares, just cut each side of the bundle, so you have all the pieces on top of the cardboard and all the pieces on the bottom.


Yes, that's it...I'll have to try that trick...can't believe I didn't think of that:bash: Thanks for the tip.
Tight Lines.

[Splitshot]

Silversides,

You are at an impass. Keep thinking that way and understand why others pass you by. You know even guys like Stelmon are more openminded than you.

[silversides]

Silversides,

You are at an impass. Keep thinking that way and understand why others pass you by. You know even guys like Stelmon are more openminded than you.

I prefer to think I know it all. So far, no problems on this end.

[tommytubular]

You are at an impass. Keep thinking that way and understand why others pass you by.


Very wise words Splitshot.....if you don't mind I'm going to borrow that and share it with some of the youth that I know.

[MSUICEMAN]

Silversides,

You are at an impass. Keep thinking that way and understand why others pass you by. You know even guys like Stelmon are more openminded than you.


What you call having a closed mind i have more poignant words for, but this forum isn't for that.

Anyways, in answer to the question, I have used blue bags, and done well, and in fact there is a stream that blue bags seem to be preferred for some reason or another.

[ausable_steelhead]

Blue netting works good under bright, direct sun. I've never cleaned up on them with blue, but it's gotten me an extra couple fish after they'd turned off from the usual colors. And I firmly believe that color can make a HUGE difference, even with spawn.

[Cut Bait]

I've used blue spawn three times. Twice it worked and once it didn't. The times it worked was when angler pressure was high. It was the different look I'm sure. Using something different often works. It's like my rapala streamer being used in flies only water.

[quest32a]

Ive never been able to tell a difference with color while using spawn. Seems that if you have good eggs it doesn't matter. Normally if I catch a fish on chartruese I will stick with it for my next bag. If I don't catch one on that I switch it up. All I ever tie though is pink and chartruese. Half the time I am not even sure what color I have on.

[GRUNDY]

I've never noticed a big difference. Orange, chatruese, white, pink. They all seem to fish the same to me, but I have never tried blue.

Brian

[thousandcasts]

I'm a firm believer that color makes a difference. I've had way too many days where a simple switch from char to pink (or vice versa) has meant one or two fish or double digits. Case in point, Bookmaker and I were pounding a run the other evening with char and weren't touching a thing. We switched to pink and it was "on" for the next hour. Hell, I've got certain runs and holes that I know are either a char hole or a pink hole. Uh...that didn't sound right, did it??? :lol:

Pink, white, peach, char--I've found a time and place where each one is the hot color and the others aren't touching a fish.

[tangeldmess]

Hate to burst your big bubble there silversides----BUT..yes blue bags are killer at certian times and certian rivers.I out fished everybody one weekend with blue bags.Hooked into 22, landed 8, released 7. Heard many rude remarks by fisherman that were passing by,like did you see what color bag that idiot was using,I would just laugh inside and say to my self if they only knew!!!! The next weekend could not buy a strike on blue, switched over to black bags---YES BLACK BAGS---{opps another secret is out}-- and nocked the snout out of them again!!!!
I do agree with thousandcasts, get away from the same Ol thing, try things differently, experiment with things out of the ordinary, have fun doing it!!
Just my two cents!

[thousandcasts]

What I seriously think is missing is flo green netting. Char is good, but I think a good flo green would be killer--especially for kings. I've e-mailed a few tackle companies (Atlas, Redwing, etc) about the possibility of them adding flo green to their selections, but have never heard a thing back from them. The color idea I had was this right here:

http://mail.google.com/mail/?view=att&disp=emb&attid=0.1&th=109d279c8a354a44

[silversides]

Listen,
My first post was tongue in cheek. If you want to make a big deal out of it, then be my guest. I find it humurous how guys zoom in on the little details without grasping the big picture, you know? Some guys complain about their spawn not being good enough, when in reality, they arn't going to catch a dang thing anyways because they are dredging bottom or something of that nature. I myself am a roamer. If I can't catch fish somewhere, I go somewhere else until I do. I don't sit there and change the size of my bags, color of my bags, texture of my bags, etc. I move on, because I know that that sooner or later I'll latch onto one or two.
Hate to burst your big bubble there silversides----BUT..yes blue bags are killer at certian times and certian rivers.I out fished everybody one weekend with blue bags.Hooked into 22, landed 8, released 7. Heard many rude remarks by fisherman that were passing by,like did you see what color bag that idiot was using,I would just laugh inside and say to my self if they only knew!!!! The next weekend could not buy a strike on blue, switched over to black bags---YES BLACK BAGS---{opps another secret is out}-- and nocked the snout out of them again!!!!
I do agree with thousandcasts, get away from the same Ol thing, try things differently, experiment with things out of the ordinary, have fun doing it!!
Just my two cents!
Wow, I don't know where to start, so I'm not going to.

[tangeldmess]

I go to those craft stores,fabric stores,like JoAnn Fabrics, they have lots of different colors of netting, you buy by the foot. You have to go with your wife or girlfreind to save face,LOL

[MPsteelheader]

sorry tangledmess ive been doin this 11 years now...

never once has the color of the bag made that much of a difference to me...

its whats inside those bags that matters...

how big and how you cured(if you cured)...

you can think those crazy colors make the difference but in all reality they dont...

:coco: :bowdown: :Welcome:

[Flyfisher]

especially for kings
Steve...think pink! And one more thing...Double Hot Red Stuff;)

[Flyfisher]

never once has the color of the bag made that much of a difference to me...

Then there is a good chance that you missed opportunities at additional fish...

Personally, I have found certain colors work better under certain water conditions...

I always tie eggs in at least two different colors...

Have found that there are times where I catch all my fish on one color...

And can't catch anything on the other color...

Never tried blue, though...

But I am only expressing my opinion...

Which is certainly not fact...:yikes:

[plugger]

Nothing transmits confidence as well as monifiliment.

[MPsteelheader]

Then there is a good chance that you missed opportunities at additional fish...

Personally, I have found certain colors work better under certain water conditions...

I always tie eggs in at least two different colors...

Have found that there are times where I catch all my fish on one color...

And can't catch anything on the other color...

Never tried blue, though...

But I am only expressing my opinion...

Which is certainly not fact...:yikes:

i tye 4 colors...orange, red, pink, and chartuese...

NOT one of these colors has out fished the other...

i tye equal amounts in each color when i tye bags...

again i say its not the color of the bag...

its whats in the bag that counts...

cya on the river,

mark

[Splitshot]

Most of the time I don't think color makes much of a difference, but there are times when it does without question. I find that color most often makes a difference pier fishing but changing color has made a difference many times in the river too.

[TSS Caddis]

We had one day a few years ago where I was running char and my buddy was running pink. I hooked over 30 stream brown including a couple lake runs and he didn't touch a one. Made me a believer that at least for browns color does play a significant role. Sure, I've caught browns on Pink, but Char always seems to produce significantly better.

Other than that, I just always fish Pink for steelhead. If it slow, I'll introduce Char and sometimes it does make a difference, sometimes not. I would guess 95% or so of the times I'm out color doesn't effect the bite as far as steelhead goes. Typically there are a lot of other aspects that will buy you more fish, boat position, knowing how to work a run efficiently and the most valuable thing, and most underrated thing, "knowing when to move". Takes a lot of time to grasp, but being able to effectivly predict what's going on with the river that day will make the biggest difference in numbers. You may pull up to the best hole on the river and only hit 5 fish in the first hour. What do you do???? Be a rock lizard and pound it all day knowing that in 5 hours you might eek out 10 more, or do you think that it is just this hole that is slow today and gamble that some of the other holes will hold more fish that are willing to go???? Tough to learn, but it can mean the difference between a hard earned 10 and an easy 20+.

[hypox]

Personally, I prefer no netting.

[Oldgrandman]

I usually use only orange, if they ain't got any orange I buy white or pink or chart. Now I fish with some guys who use their favorite color which is usually pink or white and we all seem to do as well as each other. Although I often out fish them;) right Bruce?
Like MPsteelheader said, it's whats inside that counts.
And the fact your on top of some fish, and they are receptive.
I fished a hole up to 45 minutes before any action then in the next half hour or so two of us had our limit, the fish were on the move. If I had different colors of spawn and had changed bags a half hour into it I would probably be inclined to believe that is why I got some fish.

[Splitshot]

I agree that what is inside is more important than the color of the bag, but sometimes it makes a difference. I usually carry 3 different colors in my spawn bottle as well as different sizes. I think size also makes a difference sometimes. I have switched many times to a different color, only to go back to the particular color that was hot. In fact enough time to be sure that color sometimes matters.

I think you will find the same thing to be true for all different types of fish, gills, perch, bass, walleye etc.. I don't care if you accept this or not as you can make your own decisions but all I can say that that kind of thinking will limit you at times. Why do I feel like I am having a conversation with Stelmon?

[deathroll]

i tye 4 colors...orange, red, pink, and chartuese...

NOT one of these colors has out fished the other...

i tye equal amounts in each color when i tye bags...

again i say its not the color of the bag...

its whats in the bag that counts...

cya on the river,

mark


why don't you just tie 1 color if they all work the same?

[TSS Caddis]

:lol:

[MPsteelheader]

due to me not wanting to be banned refer to post below

[MPsteelheader]

]i've tyed 4 colors[/B]...orange, red, pink, and chartuese...

NOT one of these colors has out fished the other...

again i say its not the color of the bag...

its whats in the bag that counts...

cya on the river,

mark

sorry deathroll just wanted to make sure you could understand...

my bad:) :rolleyes:

[ausable_steelhead]

IMHO color is very big when it comes to steelhead fishing, they can be very color conscious. I remember a day last spring up at Foote, it was afternoon, bright and sunny, and not a THING happening. Guys were running spawn,flies,waxies, nothing. All the spawn tossers were running pink or orange. Two of my buddies came down with fresh spawn in chart. netting, and whacked 5 fish in 15 minutes. I switched to a chart. bag, and immediatley hit a fish. Soon our group of four were just murdering them, and every single one came on chart., we all ran pink,orange, and white just to see, and nothing, well one hen came on a white bag, big deal. After it was all over, we had run up 32 fish in two hours, after fishing what seemed like a dead-ass day. Almost every guy had fresh spawn, as the fish had been in decent for a week or so. I'd have to say COLOR made a huge difference that day. I have many other color related stories, but that one really pushes the point I'd say. And Thousandcasts, I've been wondering about the EXACT same thing concerning a flourescent green netting, that would be AWESOME on chins, no doubt! Steelhead like bright green like that too sometimes.

[tangeldmess]

No offence there silversides, I have been steelheading for about 28-30 years, spawn fishing is my favorite,I also pull plugs, there is a differance
in color when plug fishing also. but that is another thread. I incorporate my spawn bag fishing with plug fishing, [not all the time] - I use very small corkys in the metalic colors [the hot colors that killem on plugs] with spawn bags or skeen, some times it works great,some times it does not.
I have tryed every method of cure and only use one now.That is-only fresh,
ripe, unwashed spawn, with no blood.
ps. I REALY DID NOT MEAN TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE.:lol:

Dennis

[Flyfisher]

why don't you just tie 1 color if they all work the same?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Now...is it tie or tye? Add another e and you have a salmon, a tyee:lol:

[MPsteelheader]

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Now...is it tie or tye? Add another e and you have a salmon, a tyee:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

fly thats almost as funny as blue colored spawn bags:rolleyes:

you know what, ill tell ya when blue will work...

when you fish those shallow gravel "runs" with your fly rod...

slip on some "blue spawn bags" but make sure they are small...

you'll knock the piss out of them...

kinda like the size 20-26 "green caddis" patterns that are tied/tyed/tyeed...

but hey what do i know:lol: :rolleyes:

[quest32a]

The very 1st closed thread in the centerpinning forum... anyone think thats a record? Keep it nice guys.....:)