New forum

[quest32a]

Just wanted to introduce this new forum. Should be a good one with the popularity of pinning increasing.

[MPsteelheader]

TOUCHE...

good to see

[dinoday]

I've been thinking about getting into ceterpinning...now a forum to answer my questions and direct me to spend more money:lol:
I look forward to some good reading:)

[subocto]

Can someone describe what this method is in comparison to fly and spin fishing? Ive heard alot about it but have never seen it done. Is it a different technique, is it used in different conditions than more common types, and is it different equipment? Thanks.:dizzy: :gaga:

[dinoday]

Can someone describe what this method is in comparison to fly and spin fishing? Ive heard alot about it but have never seen it done. Is it a different technique, is it used in different conditions than more common types, and is it different equipment? Thanks.:dizzy: :gaga:

The guys I've seen doing it typically are using floats with spawn,the advantage I've seen is you can float a loooooooongg way with zero resistance on the line...totally drag free drift.
Different reel and rod...the reel resembles a very large arbor fly reel,but it's not a fly reel.Rods are typically long,over 11 ft,but I would imagine there's different applications than I've seen.
MPsteelheader,Quest,Gomer and I'm sure others know a whole lot more than I do...I've seen their pics;)
I've seen them used on piers with great success...that's what got my interest.

[mechanical head]

Where do I apply for the bait caster forum, or maybe the underspin forum..lol..

Quest do you return messages ?

[brad arnett]

I have a centerpin post in the cold water forum if a moderator would like to move it here. It has some good info in it.

[tommytubular]

Oh great!!

another way to spend my hard earned dollar...

I don't have a centerpin......but I've done some looking at equipment and read a little about them.....looking forward to the information that always seems to flow out of the sportsman that visit this place

[quest32a]

Where do I apply for the bait caster forum, or maybe the underspin forum..lol..

Quest do you return messages ?
Sorry Dennis, I didn't get the message until late that night. That was us you saw. We ended up with one in about 2 hours of fishing. Ill get hold of you later.... Ive been busy.

[bombcast]

Apparently, once you're a year or two involved in pinning, you refuse to believe that a steelie will actually eat something other than suspended below a float. If it's swung, drifted, or bottom bounced, then it's lining. :lol:

[thousandcasts]

I'm out to prove that the style of float doesn't matter when presenting spawn, but I would like some tips on the proper way to stagger my shot under a snoopy bobber. Anyone have any suggestions?

[MPsteelheader]

:lol: easy TC...

on the line make it look like snoopy is leaving lil' doodoo butter bits all the way down the line til you reach your hook...lol:D

[Flyfisher]

Apparently, once you're a year or two involved in pinning, you refuse to believe that a steelie will actually eat something other than suspended below a float. If it's swung, drifted, or bottom bounced, then it's lining. :lol:
:yeahthat: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Too bad you got yourself banned....see what happens when someone "double dog" dares you to follow through with your thoughts....Oh, thats right, you can't reply.:lol:

Anyway, glad to see another forum for float fishing ...maybe the name could be changed from Center Pin to Float Fishing, that way TC and his snoopy "floats" will feel more welcome.

TC, to put it simply, for slower flows evenly space out multiple shot on the line, below the previously mentioned Snoopy bobber, until the float is loaded (water line is the bottom part of the brighter colored top of the float). For faster, broken water, bunch your shot just above the swivel going to your leader. It can be more complicated than that but I think that should get you started.

[thousandcasts]

So a half ounce bell sinker under a snoopy bobber isn't going to cut it? Hmmm...no wonder I can't catch fish!

I think I'll change my sig, just for you Flyfisher--"If it acts like a bobber, then it is a bobber!" j/k :lol:

[Steve]

Guys this forum was started due to the fact that "center pinning" is probably the fastest growing technique in river fishing today. I'm well aware of the others, but this one has been getting a lot of discussion.

[Hex4steel]

I agree with Steve and believe this forum will come of use in the future.....

[subocto]

Does a centerpin reel use floating flyline or mono?

What is the difference if I use spawn under a bobber on my 11 ft spinning rod than using spawn under a bobber on a centerpin reel and 11ft rod. with both setups I still have to keep feeding line out to get the "long drift" that was mentioned, right? And since there is line on the water, wont they both have some drag in the current?

Im just trying to figuire out the difference and how one has an advantage over the other

[Mags]

There was a very good article on center pin reels/fishing in last month's(February 2006) Woods-n-Water News. A friend of mine from Windsor who does the majority of his fishing on the Saugeen River swears by this method, and he does catch alot of fish using it. He was trying to explain the technique to me, and I must admit, it sounds intriguing and effective.

[pelagic1]

A center pin uses mono or a floating mono like Siglon F

There is no difference in using spawn under a bobber with an 11' rod with spinning reel or an 11' rod with a centerpin....If you are able to keep a quality drift with each.

Like you mentioned, on a long drift once the line drags in the water, it doesnt matter what kind of reel you use.

But because you can use a centerpin to more efficiently feed line at the rate of the current, there is less slack line and drifts can be extended. Hooksets are also instantaneous because you can just clamp and swing with a tight line.

That being said, if you can efficiently manage line with a spinning reel then 90% of the time you can be as effective as someone with a center pin reel in my opinion. Yes there are some times or locations that fishing a center pin will shine, but overall you can be just as effective with a spinning setup when fished properly.

A reel is just a tool, it does not catch the fish for you.

I fish a centerpin more for the challenge and the enjoyment i get out of it.

Not to mention the fact that for the money i spent on one CP reel alone i could have bought a spin reel/rod combo for about any condition i can think of. ;)

[thousandcasts]

There is no difference in using spawn under a bobber with an 11' rod with spinning reel or an 11' rod with a centerpin....If you are able to keep a quality drift with each.

Amen. Myself, I use a bait caster for bobber fishing...same concept as a pin, just free spool, clamp down with your thumb and set hook. I'll end up grabbing a pin sooner or later, it looks like a lot of fun. Unless you're Gomer, then your just spending all day pulling your bobber out of the trees behind you. ;) :lol:

[pikedevil]

Unless you're Gomer, then your just spending all day pulling your bobber out of the trees behind you. ;) :lol:


HAHAHAHAH WOW i almost crapped myself on that one. Oblivious gomer loves to just whip that big ole 13 footer around (I think hes over-compensating), clockin everything and everybody in sight.

[gomer]

Sometimes you just gotta swing for the fences... Maybe you should take some pointers Hutch and you might be able to keep them on!

[thousandcasts]

I was to busy trying to protect my little boys--I figured I'd end up taking them to the emergency room if they stood too close to you! Whip, smack, retrieve bobber from tree, whip, smack, retrieve bobber from road. ;) :lol:

[pikedevil]

Gomer can be deadly with that thing. Couple weeks ago I took a giant balsa float with about 6 oz of shot right across the face when the hook let loose from one of his infamous snagged float fish.

[thousandcasts]

Yeah, I kinda figured that's what was going on. When I was untangling one of Gomer's hook sets from around my son's neck, I noticed the point of his hook was covered with...shall we say, jewelry? I was going to remind him that this isn't indy fishing, but I figured it wasn't my place! :evil:

[Hex4steel]

Yeah, I kinda figured that's what was going on. When I was untangling one of Gomer's hook sets from around my son's neck, I noticed the point of his hook was covered with...shall we say, jewelry? I was going to remind him that this isn't indy fishing, but I figured it wasn't my place!

:lol: Almost fell out of the chair on that one! Don't worry, Gome has got it covered with that meat stick he just built. Just don't be alarmed if your suddenly dragged in the river after hearing a big ole' "fish on" from the opposing side of the quarry, It's just gomer on another rampage with his pinner'!

[gomer]

All I have to say is if you get in the way of the frontier, you will get sent to the next frontier...:lol:

[MPsteelheader]

:lol:

[Chrome steel]

Can someone tell me the furthest one can cast with one of these so called new fishing sports reels?
Also whats the differnace from a large arbor dragless fly reel and a cinter pin reel? (besides the great balance and percion tuning to spool out easier for the use of 12 to 15lbs line)?
So your telling me you have to cast out and grab the line so the current of the river dosen't strip more from line?
What about when you set the hook and fight the fish cant let go right? I see alot of bandaids being used and people putting reels away for good!
Me I had been steelhead fishing for over 20 years and me being 28 know the importance of a smooth drag system for steelies. With center pin fishing where's the smooth drag? I guess with our cold fingers you can barly feel? I dont think so. This is an opion so please noone get mad or hurt but I doubt this forum will ever go anywhere but questions about what is or how to & why! And if I get booted for this like another member had where is the respect of opion and choice? I love this place. Other than this good luck guys. And I hope to have what I said rubbed in my face and proven wrong, that a center pin will out fish a spining reel anyday. Then I'll know why it has its own forum. But other than that its just a differnt technic of stream fishing. GOODLUCK........

[pelagic1]

I think you answered most of your own questions.

There is nothing fancy about a center pin reel other than it spins freely....YES your hands do get cold....NO there is no drag other than your cold hand....fishing a center pin is not for everyone.

I dont think anyone is saying that a CP reel will outfish a spinning reel ANY day.

You are correct it is just another method of stream fishing.

[Splitshot]

This should be an interesting forum and a place where one can learn another technique that will help them catch more fish.

The most important element in centerpin fishing is the rod in my opinion. A long rod will help you keep your line off the water, let you fish a deep run without a slip bobber and allow you to set the hook better at the end of a long drift. Most of the time any reel will work but sometimes a centerpin reel works best, especially if you are drifting a tricky current where the water is deep.

It takes some time to learn to cast them and my biggest complaint is line twist. That can be overcome with the pull cast but that cast takes even more practice and skill. In my opinion it is a speciality tool that works best in particular situations. If you fish steelhead a lot especially on bigger rivers you will probably like it. I think it is as challenging as fly casting only in a different way.

Good idea John. Anytime you do something to help fishermen have a better understanding especially of new ideas it can’t hurt. To all those who think centerpin fishing is the tshit, it ain’t all that, but it is a fun way to fish and to the guys who think it sucks, don’t even get involved.

By the way I have seen guys cast a centerpin much farther than any spinning reel, but to do it consistently, it takes a lot of hard work. I have amazed myself a few times a few times when I did it right with long casts, but I will probably never reach the “Zen” level because it is a lot of work and I don’t fish those conditions enough where a centerpin and long rod is the best tool.

[Flyfisher]

Can someone tell me the furthest one can cast with one of these so called new fishing sports reels?
As far as one cares to fish a float away from them, which is somewhat objective and as far as one's abililty allows them to cast. 50' to 100' would be a fair average. Historically, the centerpin reel has been around much longer than a spinning reel.
Also whats the differnace from a large arbor dragless fly reel and a cinter pin reel? (besides the great balance and percion tuning to spool out easier for the use of 12 to 15lbs line)?
You quite possibly answered your own question:confused: So your telling me you have to cast out and grab the line so the current of the river dosen't strip more from line?
What about when you set the hook and fight the fish cant let go right? I see alot of bandaids being used and people putting reels away for good!
Me I had been steelhead fishing for over 20 years and me being 28 know the importance of a smooth drag system for steelies. With center pin fishing where's the smooth drag? I guess with our cold fingers you can barly feel? I dont think so.
Perhaps you should educate yourself on how a float reel is cast, trotted, and most importantly how fish are fought. As for people "putting away" their centerpin reels because of hurting themselves, fine with me...makes for more high quality used reels on the market
This is an opion so please noone get mad or hurt but I doubt this forum will ever go anywhere but questions about what is or how to & why! And if I get booted for this like another member had where is the respect of opion and choice? I love this place. Other than this good luck guys. And I hope to have what I said rubbed in my face and proven wrong, that a center pin will out fish a spining reel anyday. Then I'll know why it has its own forum. But other than that its just a differnt technic of stream fishing. GOODLUCK........
As for this forum going anywhere, only time will tell. The other float fishing (centerpin) related forums I have visited have a tremendous following with less bickering and ignorance and a very friendly tone. I don't think that there is any sort of competition stating that the centerpin is better than a spinning reel or any other tackle for that matter. Personally, I am a FISHERMAN, not a centerpinner, flyfisherman, walleye guy, or big lake troller but a combination of all the above and more. Being open-minded to, and embracing, new techniques has made me a better fisherman, period. It has its own forum because it is a unique and specialized way of fishing, just like flyfishing, which also has its own forum. I could care less if there was a centerpin forum or not but perhaps you should visit it to learn a little bit more about it before making assumptions. If you are really that upset about this, perhaps someone on the "Sound Off Forum" would be more interested? GOOD LUCK!

[quest32a]

There are entire websites out there devoted to Center Pin fishing. For me I plan on making it another addition to my arsenal for catching fish. Is it the end all to steelhead fishing, no its not. But there are days where flyfishing is more effective, drift fishing, hardware fishing and sometimes float fishing. The Center Pin is just another way to catch fish and somedays it will outfish every other method under the sun. Other days it will not. But the more versatile angler you are the better angler you are.

[thousandcasts]

But the more versatile angler you are the better angler you are.


Absolutely, Quest--you hit the nail on the head. I have gained alot of respect for the pin guys. Those long rods definitely put the wood to fish. I love to bobber fish, and sooner or later I'll do it with a pin as well as my bait caster set up. Right now though, I have to worry about stocking up my crank bait supply for kings! LOL!!

I think the only way that I'll stop spending money on new things to try for salmon and steelhead is when I die. As long as I'm breathing, the knowledge and equipment will continue to pile up! :lol:

[MPsteelheader]

Absolutely, Quest--you hit the nail on the head. I have gained alot of respect for the pin guys. Those long rods definitely put the wood to fish. I love to bobber fish, and sooner or later I'll do it with a pin as well as my bait caster set up. Right now though, I have to worry about stocking up my crank bait supply for kings! LOL!!

I think the only way that I'll stop spending money on new things to try for salmon and steelhead is when I die. As long as I'm breathing, the knowledge and equipment will continue to pile up! :lol:

AMEN

[Oldgrandman]

I am curious about the benefits of a center pin reel.
Sounds like casting is great, how is retrieve? Is it a 1:1 ratio as imagine it would be and is that a problem for you guys who use them? Is the longer rod a necessity with them? Other benefits?
As for the long rod they are a blast, only 2 draw backs for me. Wading alone up to your chest in water trying to net a fish is a bit harder but bearable, and strong winds seem to blow a longer rod around more.

Not being a clown about it, really want to know. I've tried about every kind of steelhead fishing around except traditional fly fishing. I inherited my G-dads old Shakespear set-up (made in Kalamazoo circa 1940!) but haven't used it yet.
A brief spellout of benefits would be interesting to me rather than wading through a bunch of posts and trying to remember it all. Been a while since I invested in "new stuff!

[CANman]

HEY,,,ABOUT TIME THIS FORUM CAME AROUND.

CANman here, from across the border in the Soo. Dont post much, since all i do is float fish, and most the coldwater forum posts dont related to much of anything we Canadians do on the river.

Guess thats different now!

Been at it for nearly 16yrs now, havent steelhead fished a river without a center pin for that long!...wow, thats crazy now that i think about it.

Anyhow, always willing to help out with techniques, etc. Plus, I prostaff for G Loomis Canada, so I can always help out with info on our rods.

CANman

[quest32a]

Good to have you here CanMan. I too float fish quite a bit but the whole Centerpin thing is going to be new to me. I am sure I will have some questions.