View Full Version : What would it take for you to buy a Mathews!
swampstand
03-19-2006, 11:35 AM
Man, it seems that every time I give my positive opinion on Mathews bows, people get bent out of shape.
I can promise you this, it was NOT Mathews Co. advertising campaign that sold me on their bows, I JUST SHOT ONE FINALLY. UNBELIEVABLE!
My purchase and dedication to Mathews bows is strictly based on their performance compared to other bows I have shot. Not from a full page in your face arrogant magazine ad. Mathews does gloat, it's just their company mentality and culture. It doesn't negate the fact that their bows are outstanding. It's almost like people take it personally. I don't take it personally that other guys shoot Hoyt or Bowtech or a long bow.
What would it take for Mathews haters to test shoot and/or buy one?
Elimation of Mathews advertising?
Hoyt or Bowtech going out of business? (I know it will never happen)
Price reduction?
etc.......????
You can't tell me you hate them due to them being junk? Can you?
Michihunter
03-19-2006, 12:07 PM
About $800 I believe!!:yikes:
Grouse Hunter
03-19-2006, 12:28 PM
About $800 I believe!!:yikes:
sounds about right!!! :0
coverdog
03-19-2006, 12:43 PM
The name HOYT on the riser and limbs.:D
Yeah, $800 and my current bow must break first.:lol:
zx10r2004
03-19-2006, 12:53 PM
i shoot mathews not because of the name just because how it feels and i didnt like every mathews i picked up and tried out. if i was shooting a brand of bow that didnt give me any problems. why would i switch brands? thats like telling me to give up my remington pump for another brand. it just wont happen. im happy with that gun. you dont have to spend $800 for a good bow.its all what you like and want.
jjc155
03-19-2006, 12:55 PM
Being able to shoot one better than my current bow. I have no brand loyalty, its all about what I shoot best. I currently shoot a Bowtech Tribute and have no problems getting my arrows to touch at 40yards for a six arrow group.
J-
fishon-fishoff
03-19-2006, 04:15 PM
Like the rest of the guys. The price would have to be my reason and also I like the Bowtech. Nothing wrong Mathews or Hoyt either. I shoot a Darton. It feels good in my hands, the price was in my budget range and I shoot it good.
plugger
03-19-2006, 04:41 PM
I now own a mathews because I was looking through their advertising and it seems the realy hot women prefer solo cam guys. Actualy I said I wouldnt buy one because they were over priced ect but made the fateful decision to shoot a switchback when trying to decide between a bowtech and hoyt.
I shoot a Mathews FX, $425.00.
I don't think that this was overpriced at all.
TnRidge
03-19-2006, 05:48 PM
Shoot the brand you like and the bow that suits you best . Who cares what everyone else thinks .
Mathews ,Hoyt ,Bowtech, etc. are all equal in my opinion .The shooter makes the difference .
Sprytle
03-19-2006, 06:02 PM
I went from a darton to a Mathews Legacy then to a outback then i was set on buying a new switchback...until i shot a bowtech tribute and alligenece!!
Absolutley the finest bows ive ever shot!!! I am not brand loyal either show me another that shoots better then my bowtech and ill buy it!!:D
-Bob:)
goosebustr79
03-19-2006, 07:17 PM
The name HOYT on the riser and limbs.:D
But then it wouldn't be a quality bow. Good boat anchor though!:lol:
Mickey Finn
03-19-2006, 08:17 PM
I think I'll keep my pro-line. Thanks just the same.:)
Kelly Johnson
03-19-2006, 08:44 PM
What would it take for you to buy a Mathews!
A dual cam model.
goosebustr79
03-19-2006, 09:05 PM
I think I'll keep my pro-line. Thanks just the same.:)
Sorry to hear that! Really sorry!!!!
SR-Mechead
03-19-2006, 09:09 PM
I didn't buy one. I have six kids that got one for my birthday, but I'm not spoiled. I have another birthday coming soon and I have given a few hints. Arrows, broadheads. Scent lock.:lol:
Mickey Finn
03-19-2006, 09:13 PM
Sorry to hear that! Really sorry!!!!
Play nice little one!
unregistered5a
03-19-2006, 09:17 PM
If They Made A Recurve Or Longbow:d ;)
Grouse Hunter
03-19-2006, 10:00 PM
If They Made A Recurve Or Longbow:d ;)
THey do!!
as well as bamboo flyrods and guitars!
hoyt001
03-19-2006, 10:18 PM
For Hoyt to go out of busisness! But then so would Bowtech and Martin. Both of these companies make better bows than Mathews. But they just don't advertise like it's going out of style. Of course Hoyt will never go out of busisness, because they make the best bows on the market.
zx10r2004
03-20-2006, 12:38 AM
For Hoyt to go out of busisness! But then so would Bowtech and Martin. Both of these companies make better bows than Mathews. But they just don't advertise like it's going out of style. Of course Hoyt will never go out of busisness, because they make the best bows on the market. you sound like my 3 yr old and my 6 year old fighting over who's better sponge bob or dora.:lol: they are all great bows. its all depends on which one feels the best.:p :p :p
Grouse Hunter
03-20-2006, 12:53 AM
lot of great bows out there for 750 jr. bacon cheeseburgers! :)
"What would it take for you to buy a Mathews?"
Well, lets see now...since I shoot fingers then a longer cam to cam. Possible dual cam also. Also, lower the price. Like I said in another post, a Mathews is just an overpriced PSE/Browning.
FREEPOP
03-20-2006, 08:05 AM
Well, lets see now...since I shoot fingers then a longer cam to cam. Possible dual cam also. Also, lower the price. Like I said in another post, a Mathews is just an overpriced PSE/Browning.
I bought a Conquest Pro with the soft cam because I shoot fingers also.
goosebustr79
03-20-2006, 08:15 AM
"What would it take for you to buy a Mathews?"
Well, lets see now...since I shoot fingers then a longer cam to cam. Possible dual cam also. Also, lower the price. Like I said in another post, a Mathews is just an overpriced PSE/Browning.
You definatly can't compare a Mathew's to a PSE or a Browning, especially a PSE.
Pieces Scattered Everywhere!
Pull Shoot Explode!
Pretty SH**ty Equipment!
and the list goes on and on.
HookDaddySlayer
03-20-2006, 08:25 AM
I am always amused by how loyal guys can be. Mostly because I used to be one of those guys. Hate to admit it but I was a PSE shooter before I saw the light. A good friend was extremely pse loyal and had a wholesale dealer type connection with them so he hooked me up with a mach 6 about 6 years back. It was my first new bow purchase and I was impressed. It took me 2 years to realise that a bow shouldn't be that touchy to shoot. Timing was an issue and that forced high wrist grip was tough for me to get used to. Then I went and did the unthinkable and tried out a matthews. He claimed they were nothing more than the king of advertising, that any of there shooters could win with any bow in their hands, etc. That may all be true, but all it took was for me to shoot 3 arrows at the pro shop and I am now a matthews LX shooter. Gettin ready for a new bow here this summer. Having learned my lesson , I can't wait to shoot the new matthews, hoyts, bowtechs, and even a Martin or two.(Hot scantily clad women love Martin, Nice ad campaign,lol). Stay loyal guys, some of this stuff is hilarious. By the way I am also a Ford guy. lol:cool:
Oh yeah, my pse buddy shoots a switchback now. I don't blame him after trying out a new pse last year. The new mach was the ugliest feeling bow I've shot in a long time.
Fulldrw
03-20-2006, 08:31 AM
My Boss saying it's OK to buy ANOTHER Mathews!:lol:
You definatly can't compare a Mathew's to a PSE or a Browning, especially a PSE.
Pieces Scattered Everywhere!
Pull Shoot Explode!
Pretty SH**ty Equipment!
and the list goes on and on.
Um, actually they are exact copies. Compare the Illusion against the Mathews. Its the same bow. And since PSE bought Browning, well...Mathews is just an overpriced PSE/Browning.
And it really kills me that so many people focus on what brand this and what brand that.....in the end, like a freaking critter CARES what you shoot it with!!! GEEEEEZZ!!!!
mich buckmaster
03-20-2006, 09:02 AM
I have owned PSE, High Country, Martin, and now Hoyt. I like the grips on the Hoyts, and I liked the Razortec at the time. It fits me great and it is light, forgiving, no shock, I shot all the Matthews and they were a little more heavy, just as smooth, and I didnt seem to like the grip as well.
I see bows different as some,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I WANT TO SHOOT DEER!! I could care less about leagues, competition, or whatever, PUT UP OR SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is my motto!!!!
So ANY new bow today can SHOOT A DEER!!!!!!!! So to be a die hard on ONE bow is SILLY, when it comes to killing!!!!!!!!!!!
Gilbey
03-20-2006, 10:05 AM
Well....being truly non brand sensitive, I would try one for a year for even up trade on my Hoyt, and I would have to keep all my goodies for the matthews.
To realize that of the 40+ guns that I own; I still only have one bow: a Mathews.........
Heck that bow is 10 years old and I can not get myself to buy another one; YET>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
ArrowHawk
03-20-2006, 12:34 PM
Whats a Mathews?
outfishin_
03-20-2006, 12:48 PM
It took for me to win one in a charity auction back in January...I picked up a Mathews Classic '06 model along with a trophy drop zone rest for $321.00 brand new in the box....:)
Swamp Monster
03-20-2006, 02:24 PM
Boy, thats a tough question.
To be honest, I think they would have to add at least 2 more rubber dampeners for me to take a serious look. Right now, they don't have enough. I figure in 2 years, they'll have a model with 2 more more rubber thingies....I may be ready by then.
:evil: :evilsmile
Swamp Monster
03-20-2006, 02:28 PM
Now that I think about it, this sums it up:
Instead of giving me "Yesterday's Technology at Tomorrow's Prices", I would rather see "Tomorrow's Technology at Today's Prices" If and when that happens, I might be intrigued!
In all seriousness, they are a fine bow, just like most of the others. They really aren't "built" any better than most of the other top end company's models, but they do feel better at the shot than some companies offerings, I won't argue that. Most people tend to confuse build quality with shot feel. Feel has more to do with design overall (but a poorly built bow will rarerly feel good)
FASTRNU
03-20-2006, 03:29 PM
Alot of you say it's too high priced. Well, MJC Archery is having a 15% off sale on everything now thru I think June to celebrate their 15 years in business. My buddy bought a new Switchback XT on Saturday.
DEERHNTR
03-20-2006, 03:57 PM
I have shot a Matthews for probaly 8 years now and I have nothing bad to say about them. Infact I have had no reason to switch.
However, I will say that I am going to look hard at the new bowtechs next time I buy a bow. Everytime I see one I am impressed (have also heard they shoot nice).
hondakid
03-20-2006, 06:49 PM
Is it my imagination or is it always the matthews guys trying to sell everybody else on how good it is? It never APPEARS that the Bowtech,Hoyt,etc... guys are so hard pressed to let everyone know how great their bows are.
With that being said, I don't care for matthews...or bowtech,martin,pse,etc. I like the feeling of a hoyt myself. Not because they are better then the others, it's just that it feels good to me. With the quality of bows out there you just can't go wrong. Just shoot what you feel the best with.
And if you want the best shoot a hoyt!!!:evil:
djkillaz
03-20-2006, 07:18 PM
A different name or free!!!
buckwhacka
03-20-2006, 07:39 PM
But then it wouldn't be a quality bow. Good boat anchor though!:lol:i second that;)
bigsablemike
03-21-2006, 07:03 AM
if you look into it mattews is a low kinetic energy bow when compared to others. not just hoyt and bowtech.
Big50blaster
03-21-2006, 03:36 PM
I is still shooten my 1988 HOYT FPS Plus. Most guys I shoot with is shocked at how good I is with it. I aint braggin on my shootin. The accuracy is from lots of tweeken both on the bow and my own hand made arrows.
I has shot new Matthews, Hoyts etc and they is all fine. Someday i will probably get another Hoyt just cause I know of several of them that is 15+ years old and still shootin great.
I might be a shade sentamental also. I even shot 7 deer in a row with the same exact arrow. Complete pass throughs and a little touch up on the blades and it was good for another kill.
swampstand
03-21-2006, 04:28 PM
Switchback is a nice bow...Back on topic please.
Kelly
swampstand
03-22-2006, 04:19 PM
Does anyone have any negative feedback on the switchback? If so I'd like to hear about it.
swampstand
03-22-2006, 04:29 PM
Topic has changed. I guess I can post a new thread with my switchback question. Not every thread stays on topic the whole way through in case you haven't noticed, nature of forums. The questions get answered none the less.
It's okay, let it go. You must have something more important to do, at least I hope so.
I know, I know, it's off original topic. But I am curious and this post already has momentum and would like to keep the continuity of everyone who is already involved. If it's okay.
Now how about the switchback, anyone have any negative feedback who has shot it????
I'm a hunter, too, so I'm not married to one bow over another. I'd go as far to say that the bow is one of the lesser important pieces of my equipment, there are other pieces of equipment that are much more important. Give me any bow and a month to shoot it and I'll kill any deer out to 30 yards. I don't see a Mathews in my future unless I had a deal I couldn't walk away from.
Heck, the seat and comfort of a tree stand is more important than what bow your shooting, imo.
Fulldrw
03-22-2006, 05:29 PM
I sold my Hoyt to buy my Switchback. IMHO the SB is more comfortable in my hand, has a smoother draw, a lot less hand shock, and is a lot quieter. I'm not married to any bow maker, this was the best bow to me when I bought it. If I decide to buy another bow down the road I'll look at whats out there then and shoot the heck out of every bow that I can get my hands on before I decide.
Except Hoyt!:D j/k!
Pinefarm
03-22-2006, 05:34 PM
I don't understand the bow brand feud. I think you'll find many serious sportsmen have firearms of all major brands and are also open to shooting bows of all brands. I mean, I have Winchester's and Browning's and Remington's etc. If and when I can afford to do so, I'd love to have about 3 different bows with 3 different brand names hanging on my wall.
No.4shot
03-22-2006, 07:18 PM
I don't understand the bow brand feud. I think you'll find many serious sportsmen have firearms of all major brands and are also open to shooting bows of all brands. I mean, I have Winchester's and Browning's and Remington's etc. If and when I can afford to do so, I'd love to have about 3 different bows with 3 different brand names hanging on my wall.
well said BOB@BBT
sullyxlh
03-22-2006, 10:02 PM
had hoyt split limb,it was'nt that old when one of the limbs folded,that was in 98 been with mathews ever since,hoyt is a great bow but that foldin issue scared me,it was too close to season and they were having issues with them at the time being split limb technology was fairly new to the bow scene.people can jaw smack about mathews all they want but all the royalities from the solo cam and other inovations still go back to mathews,so if your shooting any bow that was copied from a mathews design,some of that money you paid for that bow still go back to mathews.how many bow makers copy inovations from mathews,what inovations have mathews copied from other bow makers,i got my new issue of petersens with all the new top bows,the majority are all long riser,parallel limb design. there's some very nice bows out there that are designed and made by some very smart people in the industry and they all command respect,just give credit where credit is due.
Grouse Hunter
03-22-2006, 10:06 PM
had hoyt split limb,it was'nt that old when one of the limbs folded,that was in 98 been with mathews ever since,hoyt is a great bow but that foldin issue scared me,it was too close to season and they were having issues with them at the time being split limb technology was fairly new to the bow scene.people can jaw smack about mathews all they want but all the royalities from the solo cam and other inovations still go back to mathews,so if your shooting any bow that was copied from a mathews design,some of that money you paid for that bow still go back to mathews.how many bow makers copy inovations from mathews,what inovations have mathews copied from other bow makers,i got my new issue of petersens with all the new top bows,the majority are all long riser,parallel limb design. there's some very nice bows out there that are designed and made by some very smart people in the industry and they all command respect,just give credit where credit is due.
PSE has substantially more archery patents than any other company. Not sure about royalties they earn. Most companies use the modular adjustment single cam which is covered under a different patent I beleive.
FREEPOP
03-23-2006, 07:43 AM
I agree Bob@BBT. The name that's painted on there makes the least difference to me. Function is way more important than form. Some people are very Brand oriented. Heck some of the talk here sounds like salesman.
swampstand
03-24-2006, 11:31 AM
Sorry guys. I truly believe you should shoot what feels best to you.
I just don't like people getting negative on Mathews just because their ads are everywhere. I think they make great bows and I've shot most.
I would just like to see the people who have not shot a mathews, to shoot one (Particularly the Switchback). They might not be so negative after.
Anyway, happy shooting to everyone. Only 6 more months.
arrowdog
03-25-2006, 12:49 PM
I still shoot a 1989 High Country Sniper. I can hit what I aim at out to 30 yards. When I am in the market for a new bow, I will look at them all. The only negative experience I have had with a Mathews was my buddys that is about 8 years old, it is the loudest bow I have ever heard.
Chasin
03-25-2006, 01:39 PM
I would just like to see the people who have not shot a mathews, to shoot one (Particularly the Switchback). They might not be so negative after.
OK let me try...I had a Mathews LX which I just sold. Very good bow. I wanted something new, quicker and with less hand shock. I shot the Switchback and Switchback XT. Both nice bows, but I wanted to keep my options open. I then shot the Hoyt trykon and the Bowtech Tribute. Of the three bows the Switchback was the slowest bow. The Trykon was heavyer with alittle harsher draw cycle. The Tribute was the fastest of the three with the same handshock as the Switchback. The Tribute also has fast and smooth modules at 20 bucks that can be changed to make the bow fit your shooting style better without using a bow press.
So for me to buy another Mathews, Mathews would have to get rid of thier slowmo I mean solo cam, make a bow that was faster than my Tribute with less handshock. If two bows shoot the same why would anyone want to buy the slower of the 2? :confused: :confused:
I don't understand the bow brand feud.
The bow brand feud is just an extension of the "fly fishing vs every other kind of fishing, traditional bow vs compound, dog vs bait" kind of mindset that continues to taint the sport and seperate us from one another.
This matthews "snob" thing going is enough to keep me from even entertaining the idea of owning one.
That and the fact they are about 600 bucks overpriced.
djkillaz
03-26-2006, 06:54 PM
I think the hand shock issues that are coming up are over rated. Every bow will have hand shock. Most people judging bows by hand shock dont know what they are talking about. A good stabilzer will take care of that problem. Also, I will admit I'm not a Mathews fan. but I shot a new switch back versus, hoyt and bowtech. Is smoother but not as fast. but speed kills in most instances. Accuracy is what you want. 350fps dont mean a thing if your grouping 4" at 30yds. I would buy a Mathews in a minute. If the choice between Mathews and Blowtech (Bowtech.)
halfczech
03-26-2006, 07:16 PM
dj
let me get this straight if you are accurate out to 30yds within a 4inch circle, thats not good enough? I disagree if everyone could be that accurate. The archery wounding issue would be a nonissue.
kkirkens
03-26-2006, 08:38 PM
OK let me try...I had a Mathews LX which I just sold. Very good bow. I wanted something new, quicker and with less hand shock. I shot the Switchback and Switchback XT. Both nice bows, but I wanted to keep my options open. I then shot the Hoyt trykon and the Bowtech Tribute. Of the three bows the Switchback was the slowest bow. The Trykon was heavyer with alittle harsher draw cycle. The Tribute was the fastest of the three with the same handshock as the Switchback. The Tribute also has fast and smooth modules at 20 bucks that can be changed to make the bow fit your shooting style better without using a bow press.
So for me to buy another Mathews, Mathews would have to get rid of thier slowmo I mean solo cam, make a bow that was faster than my Tribute with less handshock. If two bows shoot the same why would anyone want to buy the slower of the 2? :confused: :confused:
Chasin, can you give me some more details on your bow. I am a mathews shooter and had planned on getting the switchback xt because of the length of the bow, but just checked out the specs on that tribute and really like it. I'd like some more info on the modules. Hopefully I can find someone around kalamazoo that sells them. Also, what was the price on your bowtech tribute?
passthru
03-26-2006, 09:39 PM
It would take my Switchback breaking for me to buy another Mathews or Mathews coming out w/ another bow that was better.
Seriously though I totally love my Switchback but I will look at a BowTech in a serious way when I look to replace it. If they would have had the new 06 Techs out last spring when I bought my Switchback I might be shooting a BT right now and Ive owned 4 Mathews bow.
BowTech will be blowing EVERYONE out of the water in the next few years if they keep improving at the rate they are.
djkillaz
03-26-2006, 10:34 PM
Actually what I meant was. A group of 4" at 30 yds . 30 yards is to close to not be able to shoot 1"-2" groups. Every one should be able to. just takes practice.
Chasin
03-27-2006, 07:58 AM
Chasin, can you give me some more details on your bow. I am a mathews shooter and had planned on getting the switchback xt because of the length of the bow, but just checked out the specs on that tribute and really like it. I'd like some more info on the modules. Hopefully I can find someone around kalamazoo that sells them. Also, what was the price on your bowtech tribute?
I dont want to hijack this thread so I wont get into my bow too much here but I'll give you my stats.
I am shooting a 370grain arrow (CXL250s) My Tribute is set at 70LB with a 29 inch draw and I'm getting 307-308 fps. And the best thing is I still have almost 8 inches of brace hieght. (7 5/8 I think??) That makes the bow quite forgiving and easy to shoot.
I'll take some pics tonight and start another thread for you to check out.
Bowtech has a website you can check out.
goemado
03-27-2006, 02:54 PM
What would it take? It took about $1200 for my setup...Very pleased with it.
kbotta
03-28-2006, 06:16 AM
What would it take....
Nothing. Got one for free...well sort of...
kb
rzdrmh
03-28-2006, 12:30 PM
i'm of the opinion that it would be rather difficult to buy a bad bow in today's market.
even a $200 pse nova will shoot great.
prices are outrageous for what's essentially a simple machine. $800 for a bow? no way i'll pay that in today's dollars. so i guess for me to buy a mathews, they'd have to come down in price a lot. i paid $400 for my current martin, and while i'm satisfied with the bow, its on the upper end of my limit for something that depreciates so quickly.
comparing a bow to a firearm is not comparing apples to apples either. say i spend $600 on a firearm, and $600 on a bow. as long as the firearm is taken care of, it will long outlast me. and depending on the firearm, it will retain most of its value, if not gain in value. now consider the bow. it certainly has a limited lifetime. will it last 10 years? 15? will my grandson ever be shooting the same bow that i shot? highly unlikely. the quality firearm is much more of an investment than a bow.
i went into a local shop last weekend and told the guy what i was shooting - brace height, ATA, draw weight, brand, etc. told him that i wanted to buy a backup bow, and wanted recommendations based on that criteria. told him that i had $400 to spend on the rig - bow, rest and sights. i understand that i wasn't going to get the same bow i already had - it would be a less expensive model. heck, its a backup bow.
know what he told me? that i couldn't get the bow i was looking for, for $400 or less. that's a shame. i'm figuring $300 for the bow, $100 for accessories. with model year closeouts, i think its pretty do-able. its a shame when people look down their nose at a $300 bow.
uptracker
03-29-2006, 04:25 PM
I've bought and sold Mathews. Mine was just stolen and now I'm buying a new one. I don't know how anyone can say they depreciate so quickly. Look on eBay and then tell me they depreciate....no offense, but I just don't "buy" it. I recently sold my 2000 MQ-32 for $325 bare bow. Guys are getting over $650 for an '05 SB. They're only losing +/- $50 if they bought it at the right place. Do that every year and....you have a new bow every year, you spend $800 over the course of 16 years instead of dropping $1200 every 2+ years depending on your ability to keep up with the maintenance and the way you treat it.
rzdrmh
03-30-2006, 07:14 AM
I've bought and sold Mathews. Mine was just stolen and now I'm buying a new one. I don't know how anyone can say they depreciate so quickly. Look on eBay and then tell me they depreciate....no offense, but I just don't "buy" it. I recently sold my 2000 MQ-32 for $325 bare bow. Guys are getting over $650 for an '05 SB. They're only losing +/- $50 if they bought it at the right place. Do that every year and....you have a new bow every year, you spend $800 over the course of 16 years instead of dropping $1200 every 2+ years depending on your ability to keep up with the maintenance and the way you treat it.
if you're referring to my post, i meant that "compound bows" depreciate quickly.
buy a mathews SB, or any bow for that matter, and rifle of equal cost. assume that you take the utmost care in using both. put both up for sale in 10 years. see which one brings more money. the difference will be substantial.
there are certain guns, when taken care of, that will actually *appreciate* in 10 years.
that was my only point. that its difficult for me to pay $800 for a bow that will be worth next to nothing in 10 years.
in my opinion, anyone paying $325 for a 5 year old used bow needs his head examined.
and to be quite blunt - $600-$800 for a bow? given a month with that $200 pse nova, and most guys here would have it competing with the high dollar bows, be it at the 3d range or in the field.
please..
buying and selling bows every year? hey, if that's your thing, go for it. i'm an avid bowhunting, basically the winter months are the only months i take off from shooting. i love to tinker with my rig. but i love to hunt as well, and i spend a lot of time hunting, scouting, reloading, performing habitat improvements, etc. no way i'd have time to start from scratch every year with my bow. if you're talking about re-selling a bow every year, just about any of the major manufacturer's will get you a good resale value.
there's a huge cost involved with the mathew's name. sure, they are fine bows. but the name costs a lot. if you want to pay for names, then so be it.
i don't believe for a second that a $800 bow gives me any advantage whatsoever over a $400 bow when it comes to killing deer.
rzdrmh
03-30-2006, 07:24 AM
Shoot the brand you like and the bow that suits you best . Who cares what everyone else thinks .
Mathews ,Hoyt ,Bowtech, etc. are all equal in my opinion .The shooter makes the difference .
this is exactly it.
all of the reputable companys make bows of relatively equal quality. some charge $300, some charge $800, and so on.
shoot what you like.
i can say, that i rarely see threads start from guys that own different brands. hell, i had to quick going to archerytalk.com because of all the mathews threads.
FREEPOP
03-30-2006, 07:57 AM
In that frame of thinking, I'll elaborate on why I bought a Mathews.
I had a 13 year old Martin, laminated wood bow. I could hit a pack of cigarrets (sp?) at 35 yards with it, consistantly. I was going on my first hynt to Colorado and I was a little concerned with a bow break down. When I purchased the Martin my friend bought one at the same time and it delaminated in two days. Must've been a lemon, but he got new limbs and it served him well for a lot of years after. I did research on warranties, reliability, availability of service, and narrowed it down to a couple of manufacturers. The I went and shot the bows that met my criteria: longer ATA (finger shooter), brace height, etc. I bought what I considered the best for me, not because of resale, hype, or pressure to fit in. That Martin cost me about $300 a long long time ago and that was a lot of money then. So 13 years later paying $800 for a bow that could concievably outlast me, well silly me, I thought that was a bargin. I shoot every Sunday and a couple times a week, year round.
Someone once told me, "If you don't buy exactly what you want, you're throwing your money away, because in the end you won't be satisfied, till you get it." When making a major purchase, I always consider that.
bownutty
04-01-2006, 10:40 AM
Did not take me much. Shot a few bows I was interested in and bought a Mathew's. Nothing fancy or exciting.
MathewsPimp
04-01-2006, 04:48 PM
nope because they are the best bows in the world!:lol:
swampstand
04-01-2006, 07:37 PM
MathewsPimp,
Why are you shooting a bow at 70% let off? Does your model go to 80%? If so I'd like to know why you choose 70%.
What do you think about the Swithchback? (If you've shot one)
fishon-fishoff
04-01-2006, 08:04 PM
It would take someone to give the money to buy one. I buy stuff from a budget stand point. If I did have the money I think I would go with a Bowtech. Not saying there is anything wrong with the mathews. I like the Bowtech better.
buckfever7
04-02-2006, 05:26 PM
Price can't be the issue much more, out here Hoyt and Mathews bows are OVERpriced about the same.
MathewsPimp
04-03-2006, 08:39 PM
MathewsPimp,
Why are you shooting a bow at 70% let off? Does your model go to 80%? If so I'd like to know why you choose 70%.
What do you think about the Swithchback? (If you've shot one)
Q2 only has the 70% let off.... I like the 70% let off better than 80%. its sad when i was told that a guy rested his bow at full draw on his knee and pant leg and sat like that until the doe came into his affective range then took the shot! hell if thats the case then get a damn crossbow! 70 to me just adds that little extra challenge! lol but yeah i shoot the switchback alot my friend has one and I shoot it better than him! Sorry justin:lol:
DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI
04-04-2006, 05:48 AM
1. Get Drunk
2. Hit The Lottery
3. Loose My Mind Completely!
MathewsPimp
04-04-2006, 03:37 PM
1. Get Drunk
2. Hit The Lottery
3. Loose My Mind Completely!
you have done all but hit the lottery not to own one!:lol:
PsEbUcKmAsTeR17
04-04-2006, 03:56 PM
you have done all but hit the lottery not to own one!:lol:
If you were smart you would buy a P.S.E its like winning the lottery. Then get drunk then watch MathewsPimp shot his bow and loose your mind...:evilsmile
-Psebuckmaster17-
uptracker
04-04-2006, 04:02 PM
Price can't be the issue much more, out here Hoyt and Mathews bows are OVERpriced about the same.
All of the really good PSE's, Bowtech's, High Country's, Alpines.....etc. are the same way too.
I heard a good rationalization yesterday: "I paid $800 for a deer rifle I shoot twice a year, so why not buy a bow for the same price, shoot it everyday, love it, use it, hunt a lot more with it and it'll last me quite a while."
DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI
04-04-2006, 06:42 PM
I Own A Pse Thunderbolt Lightning And I Still Couldn't Get Drunk Enough To Pay That Kind Of Money For Any Bow!!!!!!!!!!
Knock It*****pick A Point******and Let It Fly True***********
********you Gotta Love Fred Bear**********
passthru
04-05-2006, 12:06 AM
DMZ, Sorry to hear that! Your missin out on one of the finer things in life. hehehehe.....
DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI
04-05-2006, 08:31 AM
Don't Be Sorry For Me! If You Want To Be Sorry, Be Sorry For All The Deer I've Shoten. Besides I Have A Great Life, I Hunt And Fish Whenever I Want And Where Ever I Want. It's Great To Have 13,000 Acres Of Private Land To Play On!
SR-Mechead
04-05-2006, 08:37 AM
Don't Be Sorry For Me! If You Want To Be Sorry, Be Sorry For All The Deer I've Shoten. Besides I Have A Great Life, I Hunt And Fish Whenever I Want And Where Ever I Want. It's Great To Have 13,000 Acres Of Private Land To Play On!
13,000 acres and your to cheap to buy a mathews. Yea right:lol:
DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI
04-05-2006, 08:52 AM
It's Not A Matter Of Cheap Just Common Sense!
How Much Did The Natives Of This Great Country Pay For A Bow? Hell, They Made Them For Free From A Tree And They Have Killed Way More Deer Than Any New Fange Dangle Bow Of Today! As For That Matter My Bear Magnum Recurve Has Killed More Deer Than Most People Of Today Probably Will And That Bow Cost Less Than 100$
uptracker
04-05-2006, 04:05 PM
Don't Be Sorry For Me! If You Want To Be Sorry, Be Sorry For All The Deer I've Shoten. Besides I Have A Great Life, I Hunt And Fish Whenever I Want And Where Ever I Want. It's Great To Have 13,000 Acres Of Private Land To Play On!
How can you hunt when ever and where ever you want when you live in the city? Plus, the "where ever you want" only gets you a trespassing ticket. Pay up and get a Mathews if your trying to brag that your loaded. Actually, if you're loaded, you wouldn't be living in Redford.:D
Sorry, had to say it.
DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI
04-05-2006, 06:17 PM
Ever Hear Of Having A Job? You Know Work For A Living! And Besides Anywhere I Go On That 13000 Acres Is Not Tresspassing. Is That Something You Do? Making That Kind Of A Statement Generally Means You ***do***. And Last But Not Least I Never Said Anything About My Value And Never Ever Would , That's My Buisness And Not Yours Or For That Matter Anyones. Money Doesn't AND Will Not Ever Make A Person--------a Person Makes Himself What He Or She Is!
shades9323
04-05-2006, 11:24 PM
Martin to go out of business.
MathewsPimp
04-06-2006, 10:17 PM
If you were smart you would buy a P.S.E its like winning the lottery. Then get drunk then watch MathewsPimp shot his bow and loose your mind...:evilsmile
-Psebuckmaster17-
Im getting sick of you i kick your ass every time we shoot and still you talk so much!shoot something over a 108 and we can talk!:smile-mad
rzdrmh
04-07-2006, 06:45 AM
All of the really good PSE's, Bowtech's, High Country's, Alpines.....etc. are the same way too.
I heard a good rationalization yesterday: "I paid $800 for a deer rifle I shoot twice a year, so why not buy a bow for the same price, shoot it everyday, love it, use it, hunt a lot more with it and it'll last me quite a while."
if you paid $800 for a rifle, with care, it will retain its value long after you're dead and gone. not such the case for a bow.
now, if you're making the argument that $800, over, say 10-15 years (or however long you shoot the bow), for a lot of shooting enjoyment, is worth it - yeah, that might be true. but as far as retaining value over the long run, no question, its simply not the investment that a nice rifle is.
GVDocHoliday
04-07-2006, 07:54 AM
Thing is...I'll use a 800.00 bow more in two weeks than I will any firearm rifle in my entire lifetime. To me...it's economically sound.
You'll need to see my prestige also. I got it on Monday...shooting 314fps at 29", 64lbs with a 320 grain arrow. And it's shock free. I've been scanning AT and everyone is still waiting for theirs...I think I got the first one!!
PsEbUcKmAsTeR17
04-07-2006, 03:20 PM
Im getting sick of you i kick your ass every time we shoot and still you talk so much!shoot something over a 108 and we can talk!:smile-mad
Hey crybaby:gaga: sorry to hear that, by the way how is that talking crap. Its simply saying get a PSE, and watch you shoot your bow and loose your mind. Dont cry about it.
-Psebuckmaster17-
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