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monczunski
03-15-2006, 09:39 PM
if you were turkey or deer hunting up north in MI and you seen a bear; would u shoot it?
Jumpshootin'
03-15-2006, 09:48 PM
Only if I had a bear permit for the management unit I was in.
Don't worry about meeting up with a bear in the woods kid. They are more skiddish of humans than is a deer.
If you are fortunate enough to see one, save it in your memory bank and apply for a permit in that area the next season.
Whit1
03-15-2006, 10:16 PM
if you were turkey or deer hunting up north in MI and you seen a bear; would u shoot it?
This is a rather strange question.
Are you suggesting that a hunter would/could shoot/kill a bear because of some perceived threat by the animal?
I'm not sure where you're coming from with this question.
I'm not sure of the permit/seasons on bear, but during turkey hunting season?????
spice64
03-15-2006, 10:59 PM
The question is would you poach a bear? No I wouldnt. would I hunt a bear Yes. If I was hunting Deer with a legal tag and a bear walked up to Me and I had a legal tag to harvest the animal I would Take it. Its like when Duck and goose over lap. If geese or ducks land in my spread Horay for Me. But dont get to excited young grasshopper.
boehr
03-16-2006, 08:10 AM
If your turkey hunting with a firearm you can only have #4 or smaller shot with you and if you want to try to shoot a bear with that and piss that animal off then you get what you have coming to you.
DROPTINE 14
03-16-2006, 08:27 AM
hunt yes , violate NO
If your turkey hunting with a firearm you can only have #4 or smaller shot with you and if you want to try to shoot a bear with that and piss that animal off then you get what you have coming to you.
Amen brother Ray !
ferg....
Michihunter
03-16-2006, 08:41 AM
Is that #4 shot rule with you or loaded in the gun? What's the true interpretation?
Rusher
03-16-2006, 08:44 AM
Yes!, because I want to spend my summer in jail along with paying a huge fine. Do you thing the D.N.R. would let me keep a photo of my big game hunt so, I can post it on my cell wall:help:
Oct.1
03-16-2006, 09:38 AM
Not with 4 shot unless I felt I was about to die, than I would empty the gun and maby even use the gun as a baseball bat. However it is legal to hunt Turkey with a bow. An arrow is deadly, even on a bear. If I was being threatened and felt the bear was about to take my life and all else has failed, YES I would shoot it. And Yes I would report it.
Rustyaxecamp
03-16-2006, 09:49 AM
Why is this thread still open?
C'mon guys, "Would you shoot a huge buck if you saw one in bird season?":rolleyes:
Whit1
03-16-2006, 09:50 AM
Why is this thread still open?
C'mon guys, "Would you shoot a huge buck if you saw one in bird season?":rolleyes:
We're waiting for the author of the thread to respond. That's why it's still open.
Gone Fishing
03-16-2006, 09:57 AM
Guys, the kid is 15 years old. I really don’t think he is asking if you would poach a Bear. I think some educating responses would be appropriate but let’s not come down on him. I’m pretty sure he meant it as a legitimate question.
Adam Waszak
03-16-2006, 10:22 AM
How legitimate can the question be??????? If you see a bear while hunting turkey or deer would you shoot it? C'mon close it and erase it.
AW
2PawsRiver
03-16-2006, 10:44 AM
I agree with Gone Fishing, there are several reasons he could legitimatly ask that question and I would like to hear a little more from him to clarify. Heck he may learn something.:)
Ed Michrina
03-16-2006, 11:07 AM
if you were turkey or deer hunting up north in MI and you seen a bear; would u shoot it?
No. I would conceder myself luck to get a glimpse of a bear in the woods. Keep in mind The bears are not out to eat humans. Odds are if your on one side of the swamp the bear will be on the other. The only way a black bear would get aggressive towards a human is if it has young. Even at that the Bear will move the young as far away as possible. In the worse case scenario a cub will climb up a tree forcing the mother to stay in the area. This is when you find a different part of woods to hunt. Do not approach a treed cub to get a better look.
If your asking about wanting to shoot a bear. You need a permit to hunt one.
Not with 4 shot unless I felt I was about to die, than I would empty the gun and maby even use the gun as a baseball bat. However it is legal to hunt Turkey with a bow. An arrow is deadly, even on a bear. If I was being threatened and felt the bear was about to take my life and all else has failed, YES I would shoot it. And Yes I would report it.
I had one come in two years ago while I was bow hunting from the ground on a very windy day in LeRoy. He came in upwind of me and was within 10ft of me before either one of us new the other was there. He did not know I was there and could not smell me but if he wanted a piece he would have gotten it. I was sitting under a pine tree and climbed it as quick as I could. The bear walked around the tree smelled the sh!! in my pants and moved on through.
If this is a young kid asking a question about shooting out of fear I think it is ligitimate and just needed to be worded a little better. I also think it is impossible to answer unless your in that situation and know your being threatened.
boehr
03-16-2006, 12:10 PM
Is that #4 shot rule with you or loaded in the gun? What's the true interpretation?Turkey Guide seems pretty clear to me.
Hunting Methods—Hunters may use a bow and arrow, a fi rearm which
fi res a shotgun shell or a muzzleloading shotgun for turkey hunting.
It is unlawful to use or carry any ammunition except shotgun shells
loaded with No. 4 or smaller shot, or to use or carry loose shot
larger than No. 4 for muzzleloading hunting. Archery hunters may
hunt turkeys from an elevated stand or tree. A hunter using, or in
possession of, a fi rearm may not hunt from an elevated stand or tree.
Turkeys may be hunted with dogs during the fall season. The use of,
or possession of, electronic devices that imitate wild turkey calls is
unlawful for wild turkey hunters in the fi eld. Turkeys may not be taken
while they are in a tree.
Overdew
03-16-2006, 12:40 PM
I had one come in two years ago while I was bow hunting from the ground on a very windy day in LeRoy. He came in upwind of me and was within 10ft of me before either one of us new the other was there. He did not know I was there and could not smell me but if he wanted a piece he would have gotten it. I was sitting under a pine tree and climbed it as quick as I could. The bear walked around the tree smelled the sh!! in my pants and moved on through.
If this is a young kid asking a question about shooting out of fear I think it is ligitimate and just needed to be worded a little better. I also think it is impossible to answer unless your in that situation and know your being threatened.
Very good answer
KalamazooKid
03-16-2006, 12:47 PM
Self defense? Then, yes. (same with the cougars on my property!:D )
mallardtone-man
03-16-2006, 02:02 PM
if you were turkey or deer hunting up north in MI and you seen a bear; would u shoot it?
Once again, this is a young kid asking this question, I am sure he does not understand how rigid the rules regaurding the shooting of a bear of any kind are. This is not the wild west, you cannot shoot a bear just because it is there. Now, if it is mauling you, or in danger of doing so that is a different story, but it is very very unlikely.
Once again, this is a young kid asking this question, I am sure he does not understand how rigid the rules regaurding the shooting of a bear of any kind are.
You're probably right, but I think it's the responsibility of every license holder to know the game laws pertinent to the hunting season, regardless of the age. If you don't know the laws you have no business hunting, imo.
You're probably right, but I think it's the responsibility of every license holder to know the game laws pertinent to the hunting season, regardless of the age. If you don't know the laws you have no business hunting, imo.
Uh, I think that is why this kid is asking the question! He is trying to learn and maybe he does not have the resources around him to get answers. I grew up in a house with two older brothers and a father that did not hunt so I had to learn everything myself. The worst thing you can do to a kid is make him feel stupid and turn him off from hunting permanantly. There is obviously a reason this kid has not been back on here to respond!!!!
2PawsRiver
03-16-2006, 03:34 PM
The kid obviously has at least one good point, respect for his elders, otherwise he would have at least responded to tell a few posters to kiss his backside.;) :)
I did read many of the kids posts prior to posting my reply. It's obvious from his other posts that hunting opportunity and guidence isn't missing.
I also noted the question asked was would you and not can you. Maybe I'm reading too much into the semantics, but the two questions are completely different, imo. One seeks clarification the other asks your opinion.
The point I was making is exactly how the law would look at the question, remember the old saying ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law. The burden of knowing hunting laws is completely that of the hunter and not knowing will cost you money and possibly hunting oportunities.
So monczunski, if you read this please realize that the replies that may seem harsh, are only here so you can avoid any problems with game laws. Nobody's trying to pile on, we welcome young hunters, we welcome all hunters, but we don't care for poachers old or young. Poachers steal from us all. Nice buck in you gallery, btw.
dinoday
03-16-2006, 06:03 PM
I was talking to a CO up north once and asked him about this,under what circumstance can you shoot a bear without a tag, and his responce was "If it attacks you" and he added that it's so rare you had better have marks on you when you call in the officer;)
So to answer the original question, NO, I would not shoot a bear,unless I had a valid tag or claw/teeth marks on me.
Whit1
03-16-2006, 06:18 PM
I was talking to a CO up north once and asked him about this,under what circumstance can you shoot a bear without a tag, and his responce was "If it attacks you" and he added that it's so rare you had better have marks on you when you call in the officer;)
So to answer the original question, NO, I would not shoot a bear,unless I had a valid tag or claw/teeth marks on me.
Dean, back in the late '70s a fellow up here shot and killed a bear east of Bear Lake during the firearms deer season (on Opening Day I believe). He claimed the bear attacked him. The local COs investigated the event and found no evidence, either on the guy or at the scene that pointed to a bear attack.
The hunter was charged with a game law violation, tried....it may have been a plea bargain....and convicted.
monczunski
03-16-2006, 06:59 PM
i was just wondering if it was the right thing to do... i didnt know if the DNR wanted us to keep the bears out there or if they wanted them gone.
redwingsdude
03-16-2006, 07:27 PM
There are plenty of wildlife biologists in the state working on maintaining the current population of black bears, which I believe is somewhere between 10,000 and 12,000 bears. They want a population they can manage, and they certainly don't want to eradicate them. Just like any game animal there are rules regarding what can be hunted and by whom, so don't think there is a bounty and just shoot, this is poor hunting ethics. Learn about the game you are hunting, and if you aren't hunting it with a license, DO NOT SHOOT.
Judging by the photos in your photo gallery, you all ready have begun your hunting career, so you will come to learn these things quickly. Just check out your rules and regulations book for any questions you might have, and if you need clarification, then this is the place to ask.
By the way, where is "there" that the DNR might want them out of?
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