Adjoining State Land -Versus- Paper Company Land,Hunting, & GOOD/BAD POINTS?

[wildernessgal]

I had wanted to post this question in the LAND SECTION but since I am a newbie it won't let me post there. :( I was curious about something and thought that I would ask...

If someone were to purchase an acreage up in a remote backwoods area of the U.P. (for year round living) and was surrounded by PAPER COMPANY LAND, can you hunt on it... how does that work? Would it be best to be surrounded by PAPER COMPANY LAND or STATE LAND??? What are your thoughts and has anyone lived next to either...maybe you could give
me some opinions and GOOD/BAD POINTS for both. I TOLD YA THAT I WAS GONNA BE PICKIN' YA LLS BRAINS!?!?!LOL :lol: :D

My reason for asking is because I have seen some very interesting properties for sale and I wanted to know if there there were any bad points to being next to PaperCompany Land??? In the property description it was described as being a plus, as if it was literally part of your backyard. Of course I do know that "not all things are as good as they sound" and I wanted to hear THE TRUTH/FACTS from the locals/residents of MI. State.
Thanks in advance and have a GOODIE of a weekend my friends!
Sincerely,
Wildernessgal & family

[devo024]

Welcome to the site:) I dont really know anything about paper company lands, but I do know about state land. I know that anyone can hunt on it and from experience, I also know that during hunting season alot of people hunting on said state land seem to lose the ability to read:

"Gee, I didnt see that no tresspassing sign"

"No, that deer was on state land when I shot it, uhhhh, where does your land start?":D


Im sure some of the U.P. guys will have better answers for you:)

[Joe Havenor]

You may hunt on there land because they put it in CFR so that means it is open to public for hunting,trapping,hiking and so on.To me i would not mind living next to any company that had land they logged cause it would just be a big back yard,

[tdejong302]

Be real careful where you buy. There is alot of paper land in the u.p. however its pretty well published and most hunters know about it. If you plan on hunting it gun season I would say no. There are alot of people that hunt the cfr land during the gun season. Sometimes even collect payment for baiting it for hunting parties. So if you want more land to enjoy during bird season, bow and maybe muzzleloader its a bonus. However gun is a real downer. Good luck.

[Backwoods-Savage]

Be real careful where you buy. There is alot of paper land in the u.p. however its pretty well published and most hunters know about it. If you plan on hunting it gun season I would say no. There are alot of people that hunt the cfr land during the gun season. Sometimes even collect payment for baiting it for hunting parties. So if you want more land to enjoy during bird season, bow and maybe muzzleloader its a bonus. However gun is a real downer. Good luck.
Some interesting comments tdejong. However, I disagree with you on the gun season. True, I haven't hunted there for a couple year, but I've hunted Mead land for over 30 years. Most years, once I left a road or trail, I never saw another hunter. I'm betting that in those years I could count the number of hunters I ran into off the trails as maybe 5 or 6; not bad for over 30 years wouldn't you say?!The area I've hunted is a combination of paper land and National. There are very few cabins in the area (2). The main trail is pretty well used during the fall but most just keep on driving through.

[trailsend]

I have to agree on that. There are some CFA lands near my camp that see no hunters at all.This is partly because i believe you are not allowed to drive motorized vehicles on CFA land? Also state forest land will stay public for a long time, where as CFA land can be sold or taken out of the CFA program.There is a 120 acre parcel and a 80 acre parcel that butts up against my place, one is in CFA and the other is not.They are both owned by Champion.Welcome to the site by the way.

[tdejong302]

If you have the time to wait until gun hunting season then you will have a better idea who hunts the CFA land. You may find noone or you may find parties of 6 plus. Good luck.

[CL-Lewiston]

There is legislation in Lansing that would remove the public use of CRF land in exchange for lower (much) taxes but not raise the taxes.

[brdhntr]

There is legislation in Lansing that would remove the public use of CRF land in exchange for lower (much) taxes but not raise the taxes.
No, that is not the truth. The bill would require that any land enrolled after March 1994 (have to go back and look at the bill) in CFR would have to document that there is access and where it is at. The reason MUCC is against the bill, is because the date would exempt most of the land enrolled from documenting that proof because it was enrolled before the date. They want that date removed to include all CFR land. Sorry for hijacking the thread, but there has been a lot of confusion regarding this issue.

[Ogre]

I'm sure that you are aware of this but others may not be so I will issue this general caution. Your question was about land surrounded by paper land. Please check the fine print very carefully. You will find in the UP that a lot of land is on seasonal roads with no utilities available or that access is via easements granted through others property. You must make certain that if utilities are not available that a right of way would be granted to get the electricity or telephone service. This not always a guarantee. There is of course the cost of bringing the service in to your property, if necessary, which could end up costing more than the original cost of the property. So, please be careful and make sure that any property being considered has electricity and possibly telephone particularly in light of our original question about be surrounded by paper land. Make sure that the county will plow or maintain the road if presently seasonable and that if access is via an easement that the easement has no restrictions.

[stick bow]

Wildernessgal,

Where were you when I was looking for a wife?:lol: I have been ready to get out for a long time but I married a city slicker.

[backwoodsman]

Wildernessgal,

Where were you when I was looking for a wife?:lol: I have been ready to get out for a long time but I married a city slicker.


Stick Bow

Wildernessgal is all mine and I'm not letting her get away :D :p