Evangelical Christians Against Global Warming

[frenchriver1]

What is Bush going to do now that a substantial number of evangelical christians, his staunchest supporters, have seen the light and are against global warming? Big trouble at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue...

[Kevin]

What do you suppose he should do, based on this information that "a substantial number of evangelical christians, his staunchest supporters, have seen the light and are against global warming?"

You so funny frenchie :)

[Neal]

What is Bush going to do now that a substantial number of evangelical christians, his staunchest supporters, have seen the light and are against global warming? Big trouble at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue...

substantial number

Holy crap!!! That many? Yes Bush is in trouble:lol:

[enfield]

SNERK!!

Is there a full moon tonite? :lol:

[Ranger Ray]

Become a Muslim and go on a Democratic jihad.:yikes:

[Bwana]

What do you suppose he should do, based on this information that "a substantial number of evangelical christians, his staunchest supporters, have seen the light and are against global warming?"

You so funny frenchie :)

Oh man, don't tell me that all of those far right wingers are going to start voting for the Democratic party! :yikes: :D

[Pikehunter]

Oh man, don't tell me that all of those far right wingers are going to start voting for the Democratic party! :yikes: :D


Of course not!! As all of the elders out there tell us:

Silly wabbit, Democrats are for kids!!

:lol:

[frenchriver1]

What do you suppose he should do, based on this information that "a substantial number of evangelical christians, his staunchest supporters, have seen the light and are against global warming?"

You so funny frenchie :)

I might be advantageous for him to start to listen to reason and move the coutry in the right direction to counter this threat, as opposed to keeping his head stuck in the sand and thinking that it will all go away... But then, that would be asking too much from this good ol' boy from Texas... Brains was never his strong suit...

[dtg]

THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING, HELP HELP, WHO WILL HELP US? OH THE DEMOCRATS,YEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH:woohoo1: :banghead3 :dizzy:

I love the left, every day the end is near and they are the saviors. You're my hero too frenchie!! You make me smile and laugh much more than I did before your arrival!!!!:lol: :lol:

[Splitshot]

Any excuse to bash! In the first place, name one person who is for global warming? Stumped eh? How can you expect a reasonable discussion unless you ask the right questions? That is unless you don't want a reasonable discussion? Hmmmmm.......

The first question in a discussion of global warming should be is the current trend a short term (weather) or a long term (climate) related one. Once you determine that, you must determine the cause. Obviously that concept is beyond you or you wouldn't resort to calling a Harvard Graduate, fighter pilot, former governor and two term President stupid.

Please tell us what makes you qualified to make this judgment against the President or maybe it's just a gut feeling?

[huntnbrush]

No... Wait... He's right, I'm an evengelical Christian and I'm against global warming so I urge all of you to not vote for George W. in the next election!:lol:

[tenring]

Obviously that concept is beyond you or you wouldn't resort to calling a Harvard Graduate, fighter pilot, former governor and two term President stupid.

As far as Bush goes, as I recall Bush had a C average at Yale. At schools like Yale, you pretty much get a C just for showing up. It has been widely accepted that Bush would not have gotten into Yale had it not been for his father. Had it not been for his father, Bush could have easily ended up a farm hand at the Lazy Z Ranch in Abeline after flunking out of Northeast Texas State Christain A&M Community College.

As far as Bush knowing how to fly planes, I don't understand how that is indicative of his intelligence. I am assuming you think studying and memorizing an instrument panel takes great intelligence. You give someone enough time, they will eventually figure it out. As they say, even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then. Here is a quote from an article about Bush's stint flying:

"Bush was accepted into pilot school even though he scored in the 25th percentile on a standardized test. The test was given to all prospective pilots and there was no specific score that disqualified a candidate. In addition, Bush had two arrests for college pranks and four traffic offenses before applying for pilot training. Former and current military pilots say it was uncommon for an applicant to be approved for training with such a record."

I am guessing that Bush quit flying because he would only fly a plane with a right wing and he couldn't understand why this posed a problem.

[GRUNDY]

Well, since everything is Bush's fault maybe the global warming will stop when his presidency is over. I can hear the next Dem pres. hopeful, "With me there will be no Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Tsunamis or Global Warming. Its time to turn around evrything that this republican presidency stands for. I have no clue as how to do it but I'm saying alot of nice things, I've also charged my best bud Gov Granholm with "looking into" all of this"". She, along with the rest of the furthest left leaning peolple in American will be "Looking into" these things for the sake of our fellow Americans. We also think that Brokeback Mountain should be played everyday in every public school lunchroom, and whoever doesn't agree is a close minded, stupid, Global Warming loving person with no feelings.

I absolutely love it! Both parties sitting, pointing fingers all day and not getting a darn thing done for the average American. I'm suprised anyone here can even stand up proudly for thier chosen party. Whatever side you chose to align with, you're getting hosed. We need a viable third party that can actually stand a chance of getting voted in.

WOW! I'm outta breath, I'll leave now.;)

Brian

[Splitshot]

Was it Yale? Okay, it's clear I didn't graduate from a ivy league university either. I am amazed at how much you know about Yale and how you just happen to recall what his average was and that you get a C just for showing up! I commend you for your objective explanation and I was even more impressed with your assessment of how he won his wings.

And what university did you graduate from? Not that it matters, I'm just trying to assess your background so I can judge you.

[tenring]

I went to Southwest Texas State. But I didn't flunk out.

[Splitshot]

Thanks tenring, but I'm still not quite sure if you graduated? By the way is it in San Marcos and is it also called Texas State? I used to work for a publishing company and one of my buddies worked in Texas.

[frenchriver1]

No... Wait... He's right, I'm an evengelical Christian and I'm against global warming so I urge all of you to not vote for George W. in the next election!:lol:
I can tell you right now that the country will be so dissatisfied with Bush and his merry band of cohorts that he will not be re-elected, and that's for sure...

[Bwana]

I can tell you right now that the country will be so dissatisfied with Bush and his merry band of cohorts that he will not be re-elected, and that's for sure...

I hope your kidding around. :lol:

[tenring]

Thanks tenring, but I'm still not quite sure if you graduated? By the way is it in San Marcos and is it also called Texas State? I used to work for a publishing company and one of my buddies worked in Texas.

Just kidding about SW Tex. St. I don't think a universtiy with that name ever existed. Could be wrong.

[frenchriver1]

Any excuse to bash! In the first place, name one person who is for global warming? Stumped eh? How can you expect a reasonable discussion unless you ask the right questions? That is unless you don't want a reasonable discussion? Hmmmmm.......

The first question in a discussion of global warming should be is the current trend a short term (weather) or a long term (climate) related one. Once you determine that, you must determine the cause. Obviously that concept is beyond you or you wouldn't resort to calling a Harvard Graduate, fighter pilot, former governor and two term President stupid.

Please tell us what makes you qualified to make this judgment against the President or maybe it's just a gut feeling?


There are some who think that global warming is good in that it will open up more lands for cultivation...

The overwhelming bulk of scientific evidence is in line with global warming posing the threat of dire long term impacts on the world's climate and population, but then, those scientists and all the hundred or so nations that signed that little treaty to curtail greenhouses gases must be wrong. Feel free to share your doctoral treatises on that subject with the rest of us.

Since I find no evidence that I called the president "stupid," your term, that must be your interpretation of him, and feel free to defend him all you want. I thank that is what the Constitution speaks to, freedom of speech... Or are you suggesting that only speech that is in favor of the president/leader be allowed? I think that is the philosophy of that group of guys that runs China....

[Splitshot]

Tenring,

I already knew you were kidding. And yes there is a Southwest Texas University and it is located in San Marcos, Texas.

Your always farther ahead when you tell the truth. As a result of your little game, you have lost all credibility. And you probably call Bush a liar!

Frenchie,

Nice spin but like the first time you did not answer my questions and by doing the same thing again you made my point again. Thanks!

No you didn't use the word stupid, but you did say that brains were not the Presidents strong point so a reasonable preson might have construed that you were implying he was stupid. You avoided my question about your qualifications. Maybe you went to the same univeristy as tenring? The President doesn't need any defending from anything you have said because you haven't said anything that has substance. Just rhetoric and innuendo. Come back when you have a real opinion about something.

[tenring]

Tenring,

I already knew you were kidding. And yes there is a Southwest Texas University and it is located in San Marcos, Texas.

Your always farther ahead when you tell the truth. As a result of your little game, you have lost all credibility. And you probably call Bush a liar!

No game. I thought you probably new I was joking, but just wanted to confirm. As far as me calling Bush a liar. I don't have to, everyone else does. It's kind of saying the sun sets in the west. There is no need to say it. It is a given.

[dtg]

I can tell you right now that the country will be so dissatisfied with Bush and his merry band of cohorts that he will not be re-elected, and that's for sure...
Uhhhh, I just had another one of those, am I living in a padded cell on phsychotropic drug moments again, thinking that the world I live in has all been some mind play with me being the main charactor.

Frenchie, you were the last one to induce it the last time, last week. Good job keep me in reality check, keeping me on my toes, Thanks

[Nu_2_MI]

I do not believe that anyone is saying that global warming is the fault of the president. What is infuriating is that, as far as I can recall, he has not even acknowledged that it exists......or at least has not said that it is a product of our making. That is the real issue here. If he has addressed it as a problem he has done nothing to start to try to fix it.

[trouttime]

What is Bush going to do now that a substantial number of evangelical christians, his staunchest supporters, have seen the light and are against global warming? Big trouble at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue...

:lol: Aids is still an untreatable disease and people still die from cancer.....Bush better wake up and get on the band wagon!!!! :help:

You're my hero too frenchie!! You make me smile and laugh much more than I did before your arrival!!!!:lol: :lol:

DTG, man.....:cwm27:

[frenchriver1]

I do not believe that anyone is saying that global warming is the fault of the president.
He may not have added any greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere but he sure had added a lot of hot air, which isn't helping.

[MiketheElder]

Man-made Global warming does NOT exist - GWB :lol: just for you 2 Nu

Man-made pollution does exist however, but that is not global warming.

[frenchriver1]

Tenring,

Frenchie,

...The President doesn't need any defending from anything...
Seems to me quite a few people spend a great deal of their time defending him, so why, if he doesn't need defending?

[Splitshot]

Frenchie,

I said; "The President doesn't need any defending from anything you have said because you haven't said anything that has substance."

When you pull these kinds of stunts it shows just how weak your positions are. Go away!

[Nu_2_MI]

Man-made Global warming does NOT exist - GWB :lol: just for you 2 Nu

Man-made pollution does exist however, but that is not global warming.

The only problem with your statement, MTE, is that the majority of academia don't agree with you. Simple as that.

[MiketheElder]

The biggest influence in global warming is GRANT MONEY. Can't get money for playing in the band unless you beat the drums. Please notice all the qualifying words they put in their statements. Could be, should , may be, thought by many, etc. etc. It's all BS.

[Neal]

No game. I thought you probably new I was joking, but just wanted to confirm. As far as me calling Bush a liar. I don't have to, everyone else does. It's kind of saying the sun sets in the west. There is no need to say it. It is a given.

NO

Clinton is a liar.....Fact.

Bush is a liar....Your opinion.

I do not believe that anyone is saying that global warming is the fault of the president.

ROFLMAO!!

Seems to me quite a few people spend a great deal of their time defending him, so why, if he doesn't need defending?

Gee...I don't know. Why do you spend so much time defending eco-terrorist and Radical Muslims.......If they don't need defending:rolleyes:

[Nu_2_MI]

The biggest influence in global warming is GRANT MONEY. Can't get money for playing in the band unless you beat the drums. Please notice all the qualifying words they put in their statements. Could be, should , may be, thought by many, etc. etc. It's all BS.

Sounds like a Fox news report......LOL. Whatever dude. I guess none of this matters at all. Why not look into it? Why just cross your arms and say...nope....aint there....cause I say so....it's all crap. So now all of academia is only trying for grants....they are all full of doo doo. Great. Let's not do any reasearch anymore. Close it all down. They make educated assesments which may require a good looking into and we'll just say no.....you're full of B.S.

Can you say blanket statement. That is one thing I have noticed. When the wrong-wing pundits can't put up an argument against science....they just call them money grubbing idiots.......of course I reserve that term for the chicken hawks who got us into Iraq.

[Nu_2_MI]

NO

Clinton is a liar.....Fact.

Bush is a liar....Your opinion.



ROFLMAO!!



Gee...I don't know. Why do you spend so much time defending eco-terrorist and Radical Muslims.......If they don't need defending:rolleyes:

Bush isn't a liar? George ,I served my duty with the Texas Air Nat'l Guard, Bush

George, Sadam had close ties with Al Quaeda, Bush

George, I hardly know Jack Abramhoff, Bush

George, Brownie(former Fema Director) you're doin a great job, Bush


Hey...Clinton screwed around.......but his screw up didn't cost any lives.

[MiketheElder]

Dude, I've said it before and I'll say it again. ARCHIVES, ARCHIVES, ARCHIVES. You're really late to the party. We've discussed global warming on this site several times already. And your opinion is not important enough to most of us to bring it up again. Research? Most of us have been reading, discussing man-made global warming for 10 or 15 years. It's all BS.

Solar flares, geothermal influence on ocean currents, other assorted natural phenomena..............

Never mind. Not worth it.

[Neal]

Bush isn't a liar? George ,I served my duty with the Texas Air Nat'l Guard, Bush

Texas Air Nat'l guard?......too easy

George, Sadam had close ties with Al Quaeda, Bush

Intellegence....9-11 report?.....nevermind

George, I hardly know Jack Abramhoff, Bush


Again, an opinion.

I have 2 pictures with me and G. Bush, Sr....I wonder if he remembers me?..Really.


Hey...Clinton screwed around.......but his screw up didn't cost any lives.

Really? he was offered Osama on a silver platter....but didn't take it. There's about 3,000+ American lives. How about Somalia......How about Rwanda?......

[Nu_2_MI]

Dude, I've said it before and I'll say it again. ARCHIVES, ARCHIVES, ARCHIVES. You're really late to the party. We've discussed global warming on this site several times already. And your opinion is not important enough to most of us to bring it up again. Research? Most of us have been reading, discussing man-made global warming for 10 or 15 years. It's all BS.

Solar flares, geothermal influence on ocean currents, other assorted natural phenomena..............

Never mind. Not worth it.

Archives my derriere DUDE. Why not post this at the top of the thread. Why then do you debate it here. Why do you post? It's old news...right? Why bother? I find this line to be most telling:

"And your opinion is not important enough to most of us to bring it up again."


Sad, man.....really sad. You are a true American, MTE. Your opinion doesn't matter, so just shut up so we can spew whatever we want on this board. The America I live in says that everyone's opinion matters. They have their right to express it, and you have your right to disregard it. Who is this elusive WE. Do you own this board? Is this not a political discussion board? I had no idea that discussion was one sided. Without dissent, you would just have a bunch of guys preaching to the choir.

So as to not upset the WE that MTE represents, I would suggest to moderators that an archive nazi be appointed to smack down any and all threads that have any reference to a post that may have happened in years past. This way we do not bother the WE that MTE refers to. Lord knows we don't want to go down those paths again. Because no argument is worth revisiting.....oh heck no.

[Nu_2_MI]

Texas Air Nat'l guard?......too easy



Intellegence....9-11 report?.....nevermind



Again, a opinion.

I have 2 pictures with me and G. Bush, Sr....I wonder if he remembers me?..Really.




Really? he was offered Osama on a silver platter....but didn't take it. There's about 3,000+ American lives. How about Somalia......How about Rwanda?......

You haven't heard the news today have you? Tee Hee....You'll get a kick out of this....oh brother...turns out Jack is a bit ticked with your Boy.....he says he's gonna prove that there was a much deper relationship...much deeper

Oh....the whole silver platter thing...a lie. Please tell me this source...cause I already know it.....Hannity likes to spread this around. Bold faced Lie. the person who said this was a leader of a third world African Country who was trying to win favor from Clinton during a time where he was in some serious trouble. When his claims were looked into they were deemed lies. But Hannity sure hangs onto this baby. Lie Lie Lie

TANG...too easy? Well then share.

You discount a bipartisan report? Well pray tell let us know about your fact finding mission.


Oh...one more thing for Georgie to look out for. Remember Brownie......he says that unless the President gives him lawyers, he is going to disclose emails he had with many a high ranking official in Washington...including Bush. What could be in these emails? I don't know, but they must be damning if he is holding them over the president's head. God, I love this stuff.

[PencilPlugger]

George, Sadam had close ties with Al Quaeda, Bush
Intellegence....9-11 report?.....nevermind
Richard Clarke...Downing Street memos...Larry Wilkinson...enough for me to conclude that Bush is in FACT a liar.

[PencilPlugger]

The biggest influence in global warming is GRANT MONEY. Can't get money for playing in the band unless you beat the drums. Please notice all the qualifying words they put in their statements. Could be, should , may be, thought by many, etc. etc. It's all BS.
You don't think that the scientists who are refuting man made global warming might have their own agenda? :lol: :lol: :lol:

[TC-fisherman]

Bush has said he never had a discussion with Abramoff and does not remember having his picture taken with him.


Again, an opinion.

I have 2 pictures with me and G. Bush, Sr....I wonder if he remembers me?..Really.
.

WASHINGTON - Jack Abramoff said in correspondence made public Thursday that President Bush met him “almost a dozen” times, disputing White House claims Bush did not know the former lobbyist at the center of a corruption scandal.

“The guy saw me in almost a dozen settings, and joked with me about a bunch of things, including details of my kids. Perhaps he has forgotten everything, who knows,” Abramoff wrote in an e-mail to Kim Eisler, national editor for the Washingtonian magazine.


ahem....Bush is a Liar. but his worse trait is he is incompetent.

[Ranger Ray]

Of course we know Abramoff to be of impeccable integrity so what he says must be truth.

[Pikehunter]

Of course we know Abramoff to be of impeccable integrity so what he says must be truth.


That must be why he was supporting all of the conservative causes!


:lol:

[dtg]

That must be why he was supporting all of the conservative causes!


:lol:

I think you need to do a little more digging on exactly who got money from this guy and then take note of who kept the money and who returned it. You'll find he wasn't flinging money at any one party. Harry Reid comes to mind, as a recipient, just off the top of my head.

[huntnbrush]

The only problem with your statement, MTE, is that the majority of academia don't agree with you. Simple as that.

In regards to man-made vs. natural global warming. The problem with a statement saying the majority of academia doesn't agree is that it is like saying the majority of the media doesn't agree. Of course not, the majority of academia also tilts far to the left on most subjects. Another problem is that thanks to the www. it seems everything can be disputed these days. Heres an example.

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/longman/060210

And Frenchie, in case you never figured it out, I don't think the reasons you gave will be why Bush won't be elected for a 3rd term.;)

[Kevin]

What was the original thread topic again?
Evangelical Christains, and Bush's position on global warming?
We hash that one through already? Or are we just freestylin' topics today :)

[upnut]

After all the flak thrown his way, I seriously doubt President Bush is going to wilt at the thought of a few Evangelicals disagreeing with him...Scott B.

[MiketheElder]

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I believe the Kyoto treaty is quickly proving itself to be a failure. A couple interesting reads.
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=18259
http://www.upi.com/InternationalInte...8-044857-1435r

[Nu_2_MI]

In regards to man-made vs. natural global warming. The problem with a statement saying the majority of academia doesn't agree is that it is like saying the majority of the media doesn't agree. Of course not, the majority of academia also tilts far to the left on most subjects. Another problem is that thanks to the www. it seems everything can be disputed these days. Heres an example.

http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/longman/060210

And Frenchie, in case you never figured it out, I don't think the reasons you gave will be why Bush won't be elected for a 3rd term.;)

So again...becasue they do not agree with you, their opinion doesn't matter.... we label them leftists. Why not at least launch investigations with a bipartisan panel....why not at least look at it? Why just sweep it under the rug? That is the real tragedy here. Deny Deny Deny...so therefore it must not be true. Of course most Republicans, it could be argued, are pro big business...so therefore their agenda would be to protect them and the polluters among them.

[MiketheElder]

2 Nu. I think one of the antennae on your aluminum hat is a little bent. Better check it out.:dizzy:

[Nu_2_MI]

2 Nu. I think one of the antennae on your aluminum hat is a little bent. Better check it out.:dizzy:


Perhaps your meds have been switched by your nursing assistant, or maybe your Depends needs changed.

Just funnin ya. But you are really cheapening yourself with simple insults. C'mon MTE...I know you can do better than that. I feel deprived of a well worded retort. :(

[Bwana]

I guess none of this matters at all. Why not look into it? Why just cross your arms and say...nope....aint there....cause I say so....it's all crap.

:dizzy: I'll stick simply to the Global Warming/Kyoto portion.

Kyoto has been a failure. It failed because it was drafted in la-la land. How many countries do you expect to decelerate their growth and inflict economic hardships on their citizens? When industry is adamantly opposed? Thirteen of the fifteen signatories have not been able to hit their reduction goals. Kyoto was a waste of time.

Article Quotes:

Shocking! Thirteen of the 15 EU nations that signed the Kyoto Protocol will fall short of the "mandatory" first-phase emissions reductions to which they agreed.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...uelets024.html (http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/0103tuelets024.html)


"But Revkin failed to note that the U.S. performed better than Kyoto Protocol signatory Canada or that former enthusiastic boosters of Kyoto like Britain’s Tony Blair now find the treaty unrealistic."

http://www.freemarketproject.org/new...ws20051221.asp (http://www.freemarketproject.org/news/2005/news20051221.asp)


"Federal Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane has declared the Kyoto Protocol on climate change a failure."

"By working together particularly with developing countries like China and India, we are going to make a far bigger impact on greenhouse gas reduction than a diplomatic protocol that has already failed which is the case with Kyoto," he said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1539517.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200512/s1539517.htm)

[MiketheElder]

Nope. Not worth the effort. As Judge Judy titled her book "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining".

[dtg]

Nope. Not worth the effort. As Judge Judy titled her book "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining".
The first one I heard say that line was Clint Eastwood( I forget the Movie) and he said "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining" I loved it then and I love it today!!!!

[Ranger Ray]

The first one I heard say that line was Clint Eastwood( I forget the Movie) and he said "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining" I loved it then and I love it today!!!!
Outlaw Josse Whales. (sp?)

[Nu_2_MI]

:dizzy: I'll stick simply to the Global Warming/Kyoto portion.

Kyoto has been a failure. It failed because it was drafted in la-la land. How many countries do you expect to decelerate their growth and inflict economic hardships on their citizens? When industry is adamantly opposed? Thirteen of the fifteen signatories have not been able to hit their reduction goals. Kyoto was a waste of time.

Article Quotes:

Shocking! Thirteen of the 15 EU nations that signed the Kyoto Protocol will fall short of the "mandatory" first-phase emissions reductions to which they agreed.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepu...uelets024.html (http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/0103tuelets024.html)


"But Revkin failed to note that the U.S. performed better than Kyoto Protocol signatory Canada or that former enthusiastic boosters of Kyoto like Britain’s Tony Blair now find the treaty unrealistic."

http://www.freemarketproject.org/new...ws20051221.asp (http://www.freemarketproject.org/news/2005/news20051221.asp)


"Federal Industry Minister Ian Macfarlane has declared the Kyoto Protocol on climate change a failure."

"By working together particularly with developing countries like China and India, we are going to make a far bigger impact on greenhouse gas reduction than a diplomatic protocol that has already failed which is the case with Kyoto," he said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1539517.htm


That does not address my concern. Kyoto is not a bipartisan panel looking into the validity of global warming. You say it's not there...I say it is. Same thing goes on in D.C. So why not at least look into it...study it....leave the "leftist" academics and scientists out of it. Leave the pro-business lobbyists out of it. Just a frank and honest look into the potential of this being man-made, and then looking into potential solutions. That is all I am saying. Please do not twist my words. I do not think this is unreasonable.

[Nu_2_MI]

Nope. Not worth the effort. As Judge Judy titled her book "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining".


How about this book "Don't shove your head in the sand"

[MiketheElder]

Did you write it from personal experience?:dizzy:

[Nu_2_MI]

Did you write it from personal experience?:dizzy:


Nope....out of curiosity I picked it up at the library and your name was all over the checkout card. I dunno.