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Scale ' em '
12-28-2005, 04:19 PM
Things I learned looking up other things .[ to paraphrase the fellow from Chicago]. I found the following while doing kicksled research .

Screw Shoe
By Matt Carpenter
www.skyrunner.com


Introduction
Do you run on packed snow and ice? Are you tired of slipping and falling? The Screw Shoe is one solution to the problem! By inserting some screws into the bottom of your shoes you will be able to run in the worst of conditions. The process is quick, easy and costs next to nothing:-)

I did not invent this concept — it is something that has been passed around from runner to runner. My goal is just to show you how easy it is to make your own Screw Shoes.

Selecting Screws
Sheet metal screws are awesome because the head on them has a lip that really grips well on ice. This is important because the screws are inserted from the outside into the bottom of the shoe and it is the head of the screw that provides the traction — not the point! 1/2" long screws work fine in most shoes because they do not go through the shoe yet they are long enough that they don’t come out too easily. 3/8" screws might be a little safer in the fronts of some shoes. If you have a very thin shoe, or you are just paranoid about how thin the front of your shoe looks, then you can use 1/4" long screws. Be sure to buy a lot of them however because they come out rather easily. No matter what, do not use the screw pictured on the right!!!



Tools
A screwdriver will work but the “fun factor” disappears after about two screws. Further, using a screwdriver to start a screw into rubber may have you using your entire four-letter-word vocabulary!!! A ratchet screwdriver with a 1/4" socket will at least ease the task of starting the screws.

A cordless drill with a magnetic tip and a 1/4" socket can do a shoe in less than a minute and makes the project almost fun! A neat trick here is that most magnetic tips are 1/4" so you won’t even need to track down the 1/4" socket. This setup is so slick it may be worth a trip to the neighbors to borrow theirs if you don’t have one. Or, since most shoe screwing is done in the winter, this could be the perfect x-mas gift for that special crazy runner!


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However you go about it, do not over tighten the screws! Stop screwing when the head of the screw touches the rubber so it will stay in longer. I have also heard the claim that pre-drilling a small pilot hole for the screw will help it stay in longer. I tested this theory by pre-drilling one shoe and not the other. Both sets of screws seemed to stay in equally well and the occasional screw that did come out did so randomly from either shoe so I really don’t think this step is worth the extra effort. Now one could argue that pre-drilling would make starting the screws with a screwdriver easier but I would question why anyone who has access to a drill would not simply use it to insert the screws!?

Screw Placement
Pretty much anything goes unless you have “air” or “gel” shoes in which case you will need to be more selective when placing the screws. I have 18 screws in each shoe just because someone else had 17. They had 17 just because someone else had 16, etc. The shoe on the right is my wife Yvonne’s. She has 19 — we runners are a competitive lot! As you can see she placed the screws on the treads because placing screws in-between them would be pointless. If you look closely you can see the lip on the screw that was referred to above.

For me the screws in the heel are more important than the ones in the front because I hate falling on my butt when coming down a hill. On really nasty days the Incline Club has been known to bring a box full of screws and a cordless drill to the club runs. The assembly line looks something like this:




Conclusion
That is all there is to the Screw Shoe! I use them mostly in the spring when the warmer days melt the snow and then the water turns to ice during the colder nights. This seems to happen a lot on trails that get a lot of use like the Barr Trail on Pikes Peak.

Once winter is over you will not need to buy new shoes because you can just remove the screws. Unless of course you put a bunch of miles on your Screw Shoes — they wear out just like all running shoes!

Happy screwing and running:-)

If I left out something or something is not clear please let me know!




DaveW731
12-28-2005, 04:51 PM
about putting holes in the bottom of my boots, when a set of ice creepers would seem to do the job, particularly if dealing with slush. However, could be a fun thing to do with some old shoes/boots for the novelty of it.

fishin'magician'
12-28-2005, 07:38 PM
I Wouldn't Suggest Jumping Up And Down

JJ Mac
12-28-2005, 08:09 PM
How could someone do that to a Pink Floyd song? Now that's just not right. :lol:

brianroy6
12-28-2005, 08:12 PM
"How to walk safely on ice"

Call me crazy, but screwing screws into your shoes does not sound very safe.:lol:
Especially the pointy part towards your foot!

Sorry, but Im calling this one a Bad Idea!:bash:

Lwapo
12-28-2005, 08:22 PM
Not sure how much I trust the screws-into-ur-own-feet idea...

Baseball cleats or gold shoes (with metal spikes) works EXCELLENT on ice. I use them to setup on the ice and then I change into my big thick boots :)

Best bet is still prolly the strap on cleats they make for boots. They're cheap, effective and readily available... What more could you ask for?

Scale ' em '
12-30-2005, 11:02 AM
Jumping up and down would be no problem . These guys jog and run on them in the winter without complaint . I also understand that larger sheet metal screws are regularly used as studs on ATV tires.

outsider
12-30-2005, 04:30 PM
I put 1\4" sheet metel screws in the heavier part of the cleets in an old pair of sorels and it worked great on glare ice , but was slipery as he?? on tile floors. Walked into a party store after leaving the ice and about hit the floor the hard way:lol: .
I dont think that I would do it to a new pair of boots or a pair with a thin sole.

Scale ' em '
12-30-2005, 08:26 PM
Outsider..........I put 1/2 in. #8 sheet metal screws in the pair of boots I used and I agree that they worked great. If you have screw boots on , or cleats , you would not be allowed in Franks either. At the "Shiver On The River " clinic year before last the pro said that you should not put your fishing boots on until just before you go on the ice. The article implies that boots are no worse for wear from having screws attached . Remove the screws at the end of the season and your boots are good to go .