A reminder about creel limits

[scottyhoover]

......we have them....

:)

slow day...sorry guys.

[Ed Michrina]

Where do you catch those Creels? and what do you use to get your limit of them? Wahoo we are going Creel fishing :lol:

[Gillgitter]

Something I don't have to worry about too often :rolleyes: :lol:

[scottyhoover]

See...to catch a creel.....you gotta use warm waxworms....try keeping them in your mouth :)

[double trouble]

are there a bounty on them like lamprey or do we just treat dem like gobies.

[bigsid]

I know the limits for perch and sunfishes. 50 and 25 respectively. I've looked and studied the fishing guide a bunch of times and as far as I can tell, they are not counted together. However, a friend of mine who has no reason to BS me says that a CO once told him that perch are included in the 25 fish limit. AFAIC, there's no way I'm going to clean 75 fish, but it is legal right?

Sid

[RichP]

Perch are clearly separated from the sunfish category in the Fishing guide in regards to creel limit.

[kdogger]

And don't forget that the law considers any meat in your freezer to be part of your "creel".

[JJ Mac]

Rich is correct. They are two separate categories and you can take 50 perch and 25 "sunfishes". Of course sunfish are crappie, all the sunfish varieties, warmouth, rock bass, and you may only take 25 in any combination.

The one most forget is the walleye, bass, and pike category in which you may only take 5 in any combination, and no more than 2 pike. I've seen many guys for example take 5 walleyes and a pike, which is over the limit.

[JJ Mac]

And don't forget that the law considers any meat in your freezer to be part of your "creel".

Good point. Now while this is rarley an issue if the meat is in your freezer at home, things can get tricky when you are for example: camping, staying at a resort, going over the border, etc. You better have enough people around claiming some fish when the law is checking you out. I had a coworker who went to Wisconsin and rented a cabin with several friends. They caught lots of crappie, had fish fry's etc. Then some of them left a couple days earlier than he did and left their catch in the fridge. He went out and fished that day and got busted with 2 crappie over his limit while leaving the water. The officer then made him escort him to the cabin where he got busted for the fish there too. BIG FINE.

[scottyhoover]

MR. JJ sir thank you very much, that is one that someone could easily overlook if they don't fish those species much.

[Ed Michrina]

good point JJ. I don't keep pike or musky but I wouldn't have thought that my 5 walleye and a pike would have put me over the limit.

[chamookman]

You need to go fishin' Dude :lol: :lol: :lol: :yikes: ! Bob

[bigsid]

Thanks for the help guys. I knew I wasn't that in the dark, just had to clarify it!! ;) :lol:

Sid

[live2fishdjs]

You get 25 in the AM and 25 in the PM right :SHOCKED: :lol:

[FishTales]

good point JJ. I don't keep pike or musky but I wouldn't have thought that my 5 walleye and a pike would have put me over the limit.
Michigan DNR Fishing Guide (http://www.michigan.gov/documents/hook-line-regs_119614_7.pdf)
See note 3, depending where your fishing you are allowed one extra walleye.
Rich

[TheApprentice]

Creel limits who has ever heard of such a thing. I have no limits at least on my lake that is. This will be my first year fishing the lake as I just bought a lot on it in late summer. Since it is 100% private (no inlet or outlet) there are no laws on it. I am not going to be keeping many fish out of it as I don't want to fish it out, but I bet that would be a tough thing to do with as little amount of people that fish the lake. The one thing that I do like about it being private is that I can have as many tip-ups out as I want. That is a beautiful thing when targeting pike and walleye with tip-ups. I have never agreed with the 2 tip-up limit and now I can be done with it. You guys have brought up some good issues in this post. Good luck fishing, and I hope the fishing is so good this year that we all have to keep a close eye on our creels. OK I'm done here and headed to the lake in 45 min. Hopefully they are biting. The barometer is on the rise, so I already have one thing in my favor.

Darrin, I won't say anything about the morning and evening limits. LOL!!!!

Ryan

[walleyechaser]

You may want to look into the laws a little closer.
Just because your lake doesn't have an inlet or outlet does not exempt you from creel limits, number of rods/tipups used etc..
I'd hate to see your current state of happiness ruined by a big fat ticket!
I may be mistaken but a truly private lake, one exempt from fishing regulations,is defined as one in which no more than 2 land/property owners own all of the surrounding land.
Maybe Boehr can chime in if he sees this post and give us a clearer definition although I know this was addressed in previous threads.

[TheApprentice]

You may want to look into the laws a little closer.
Just because your lake doesn't have an inlet or outlet does not exempt you from creel limits, number of rods/tipups used etc..
I'd hate to see your current state of happiness ruined by a big fat ticket!
I may be mistaken but a truly private lake, one exempt from fishing regulations,is defined as one in which no more than 2 land/property owners own all of the surrounding land.
Maybe Boehr can chime in if he sees this post and give us a clearer definition although I know this was addressed in previous threads.

I appreciate your concern here. I did check into it, and a private lake is like I stated no inlet or outlet and it is not stocked with public fish. The lake is totally private you don't need a fishing license, boating license, no creel limits, number of lines, no size limits on fish, etc. I do appreciate your concern on this topic though, as I am sure you don't want to see a fellow fisherman get ticketed for unforseen circumstances.

Ryan

[Ed Michrina]

Michigan DNR Fishing Guide (http://www.michigan.gov/documents/hook-line-regs_119614_7.pdf)
See note 3, depending where your fishing you are allowed one extra walleye.
Rich

Thanx for the link. I guess I just ignored the pike part. If it's not a Walleye or Perch It's not going into my cooler.

[ESOX]

Do you guys find those creels easier to clean if you milk them first?

[fish eater]

Do you guys find those creels easier to clean if you milk them first?

I do, but that's just me though.

[9mmruger1]

I tried fileting me a "Creel" once. Dulled my blade and tasted like poop.

Rather eat a bluegill :corkysm55

[Garret]

Fried Creel, Sauté Creel, Breaded Creel, Creel Scampi, Poached Creel, Creamed Creel with a side of Creel milk! YUMMMMM! ;)

[stinger63]

Something I don't have to worry about too often :rolleyes: :lol:
You and me both :gaga: The only perch I ever limited out on was dinks :lol:
Esox your way to funny dude.That perch milking thread has left permanant scaring in some of us. :help:

[lostyooper]

And don't forget that the law considers any meat in your freezer to be part of your "creel".

I never heard of this before so after reading this I called the dnr and they said that whats in the freezer doesnt count ,,only what you have with you when you are fishin is what is counted.

[Ed Michrina]

I think the main thing about this is If they catch you out there poaching and think your market fishing They will and can look into your freezer and count it as a continued limit . Normally they have you filmed so they can put the hurt on you for more than one limit or poaching incident. I don't think the normal JOE has a problem if he is only keeping his limit while out fishing and feeding his family from the freezer.

[shorty27]

I have a question about limits and possesions limits.

Most species the possesion limit is double the daily limit.

When is the cut off for possesion/daily limit.
Say I am fishing and have caught two steelhead before midnight, then take them to the truck at midnight and come back after midnight and catch three more which is my daily limit.

Is this legal or is it a 24 hour period, while fishing at Croton a couple years ago this dicussion came up. I asked the local CO at the time and couldnt get a straight answer out of him. Just wondering if anyone knows the law on this.

[lostyooper]

now honestly who goes out with ultralight rods and reels,,fishing for gills or specs is market fishing??? first time i heard that one also. the law gets misinterpreted WAY to much by some people. it just goes to prove if you want to know rules and regs ask a REAL dnr officer. people guessing and making the laws the way they think they should be just dont cut it.

[MSUICEMAN]

Most species the possesion limit is double the daily limit.

last i checked the possession limit IS THE daily limit.... the noted exceptions are for salmon. Has that changed?

[RichP]

Most species the possesion limit is double the daily limit.



Gotta agree with MSU on this one. It seems pretty clear in "Table 2 General Hook & Line Regs..."

[shorty27]

Thanks for clearing that up. I could have sworn I have seen in the guide at one point. In the table listing the limits that at the far right column there was a possesion limit as well. I should have looked before asking.

So I will repharse my question. So I caught my limit of fish, took them home and ate them. At midnight come back and catch another limit. Is this legal?

That is the question I was most wondering about, I said eat them because what is in your house also counts as your possesion. Any thoughts? Thanks

[Ed Michrina]

now honestly who goes out with ultralight rods and reels,,fishing for gills or specs is market fishing??? first time i heard that one also. the law gets misinterpreted WAY to much by some people. it just goes to prove if you want to know rules and regs ask a REAL dnr officer. people guessing and making the laws the way they think they should be just dont cut it.

It makes me wonder about your first statement on how the dnr officer told you anything in your freezer will not count as your possession limit :confused: possibly you omitted things told to you or selectively heard what you want to here?

If you read what I typed I said Poaching----market fishing. Same thing but these guys aren't the casual poachers like the weekend goofball that keeps 50 fish over his limit. These "market" fisherman go out handlinging or with ultralight rods and fill buckets. They fill quotas for bars restaurants and who ever else will buy there fish. They have the knowledge and time to fill there 7 gallon bucket over and over again, all day long.

[lostyooper]

[QUOTE=Ed Michrina]It makes me wonder about your first statement on how the dnr officer told you anything in your freezer will not count as your possession limit :confused: possibly you omitted things told to you or selectively heard what you want to here?

stop wondering and ACTUALLY make a call to the dnr office and YOU too will hear that whats in the freezer is NOT counted. I didnt omitt nor did i have selective hearing. Believe it or not you are wrong on your statement about the freezer.I know its hard to believe you are wrong , but seems that you DIDNT find out the facts and dont want to admit that you made a mistake.If ya dont know its no big deal make a call its free.

[double trouble]

hey lost, you're gettin a bit cockneyed for a 53 post rookie on here. chill will and get out on the ice.this is a friendly help forum not a i know more than u forum.if u want to argue with your buds cause u had a bad day, go to the nearest tavern and quaff a few more. we do not tolerate it arround here except on the political (sound off ) forum. mods, whack his pee pee.

[Ed Michrina]

Lostyoupper We just happen to go over this subject not long ago. the answer came from a current and very knowledgeable DNR officer. I apologize about typing that you may have selective hearing. I probably should have phrased it different. I'm sure you spoke with a DNR officer, who gave you your information. The law can be interpreted or misstated by any DNR officer or LEO officer. You may want to look into this a little deeper. our hunting/fishing laws forum, might be a good place to start. You are correct we are not here to go back and forth beating a dead horse.

With that said I'll stick with my first post as long as its realized its my novice oppinion based on fishing experience, what I have read and researched and what I have heard.

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I think the main thing about this is If they catch you out there poaching and think your market fishing They will and can look into your freezer and count it as a continued limit . Normally they have you filmed so they can put the hurt on you for more than one limit or poaching incident. I don't think the normal JOE has a problem if he is only keeping his limit while out fishing and feeding his family from the freezer.








06-27-2005, 11:47 AM
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It doesn't matter what condition the fish are in, frozen, fresh, fillet, or whole; they are still in your possession. You can't have more than your possession limit at any one time. Hint: if your wife has a license and your kids are also entitled to their possession so if you have 6 people in your family (that live at home) 30 walleye in your freezer would not be a problem.
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[The Whale]

First - Getting a bigger creel will solve this issue ! :lol:

Second - Going with Ed on this one, daily limit in your hand coming off the ice, good boy. Caught with more than a daily limit coming off the ice, busted and you deserve to get the ticket.

Third - Caught/seen/filmed etc. with a daily limit or more than a daily limit in your hand coming off the ice MORE THAN ONCE in a 24 hour period, and you just may get your freezer/cooler checked for "just how much of a violator are you" and then you REALLY deserve to get your butt kicked good.

Moral of the story - go fish once a day, keep enough to eat and/or stay within the DAILY limit for each species you want per trip if you wish, enjoy the outdoors and the renewable resource of fish. :fish2: :fish: :fish2:

Have a nice day ! :) :cool:

[GoneFishin]

Well now that, that discussion is over let's get back to the original subject "Creel" limits.

Is there a seperate limit for wicker and canvas creels or are they all thrown together like, bass, pike, and walleye??? If separate is there slot limit on the canvas creels??? Say like only a 12" opening, is legal???

[anonymous21]

How you guys cooking them creel deep fried or on the grill :lol: :grouphug:

[flinch]

How you guys cooking them creel deep fried or on the grill :lol: :grouphug:

Cook them on a plank like carp. After cooking throw out the creel and eat the plank.

[lostyooper]

I forgot the most important rule of this forum: if your opinion is different from a SO called vet with tons of posts or a mod, or if you find out from a leo other than the one thats a mod on here and is never wrong... you better duck because you are gonna get bashed . Its funny i been fishing ever since i was a kid and started hunting with my dad when i was 8, became an leo in 89 but i still dont know squat next to all you lifers. oh well live and learn. didnt meen to offend you guys by calling my local dnr.

[scottyhoover]

What did I start here???? :)

[MSUICEMAN]

ok, heaven forbid we tell ya that the info you got is incorrect. people (even LEOs and the like) can be wrong from time to time.

this topic has been extensively covered multiple times before, and the answer is in a normal situation the freezer/home wouldn't be checked, but if you are thought to be a "market" poacher, etc.... then they just might and by the letter of the law, it does count toward your limit.

[notmuchtime]

I tried fileting me a "Creel" once. Dulled my blade and tasted like poop.

Rather eat a bluegill :corkysm55
Did the same thing once. Turned her over and even tho a little fishy, tasted alot better. ;)

[FishTales]

The mods might as well close this before it gets too ugly. :(
Rich