"Improperly" Tagged Deer

[Blueump]

Here's an interesting story I just heard from a parent of a student I have. Their relative shot a 9 point buck last night which ran onto a neighbor's property. The hunter failed to get permission to enter the property, but simply followed the blood trail to his buck, dragged it back to his side and gutted the deer.

The neighbor, who had hunted this 9 point since bow season was ticked (most likely because it was shot - not for trespassing) -and called the DNR. The CO came out to talk to him. The neighbor was not willing to file trespassing charges or to go to court so the CO gave a ticket for "improperly tagged deer".

He asked how the deer was tagged "improperly" but was told that he was "wrong" for tracking the deer on private property and the CO was not going to leave without writing a ticket of some sort. He said he is going to fight the ticket.

Again, this is 3rd hand, and verification is probably impossible, but what could the ticket have been for? How could that stand up in court?

[greatprohunter]

I fought a "lead ahot " ticket a few years ago. I was out duck hunting and there was 4 of us in a boat blind. 1 guy was using lead, A CO came to check us out. Well he asked to see our shells and all gave him the shells. The guy with lead even gave the co the lead. Co didnt know it was a toxic load untel he checked it with the hot box. The guy even admitted to having the lead and was the only one using it. Then they pulled away from us for a few and ran our tags. When they came back they asked for our birds and then wrote all of us tickets for lead shot! He said that all us other guys were " guilty by assocaition"
I fought my in court and won!!!! and so did the others!!!!! except the guy that was shooting lead

[WILDCATWICK]

Boy, sounds like the guy who tagged it should win his court case. He didn't do anything wrong with the tagging. The landowner should have pressed charges for tresspassing because IMO that's the only thing that would have stuck.

[fulldraw]

It says right in the hand book how to and how not to tag a deer. If the hunter did not know his deer was tagged improperly then he did not read the hand book. That is also why when you buy your licenses the store is supposed to give a backer tag. This a peice of plastic that you stick you license to and run a peice of rope or wire tie through and attach it to the deer that way. It drives me nuts when I see hunters who tag wrap the license around the rack of a buck. This is legal but it just drives be up the wall.

fulldraw

[andy capp]

I wrap my tag around the rack or through the leg tendon on does. That backer tag is garbage all they do is break and fall off while dragging.

[MuskyDan]

I lived in Alaska a few years back and came back to visit one Christmas. My father God rest his soul was trapping at the time. I flew home, didn't have a car here and I needed a ride into town for a funeral. Dad decided to take me but not before running his traps in the roadside ditch. As he checked the traps I walked along the roadside in my suit and tie talking to him. CO stopped and ticketed me for illeagally trapping muskrats. I was in a suit, had a AK driverse liscense, and had no traps in my possesion, in fact I was 100yds from the car. My dad was furious, but we were in the wrong I guess and paid the ticket.

[szokr1]

You mention that he located the deer, dragged it back to his property then gutted it, was it at this time that he also tagged it? The only thing i can think of is you are supposed to tag it immediatly prior to moving it.

Does this make sense? I know there is no clarification in the original post.

Szokr1

[hunter5054]

ive always been under the impression that if you shoot a animal or your hunting dogs went onto someone elses property that you can retrive them if you dont take a firearm or bow with you...:confused:

[answerguy8]

ive always been under the impression that if you shoot a animal or your hunting dogs went onto someone elses property that you can retrive them if you dont take a firearm or bow with you...:confused:
http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10363_10856_10905-103097--,00.html
Q. If I wound a deer and it runs onto private property, may I go on the private land to retrieve the deer?

If the private land is posted, fenced, enclosed, or you have been told not to enter, you must have permission of the landowner to enter their property. This would also apply to farmlands and connected woodlots. Without permission, you may be subject to arrest for trespassing.

[hunter5054]

thanks for that i had no clue

[answerguy8]

thanks for that i had no clue

Private property wouldn't be very private if all someone had to do was put their gun down to take a stroll through it. :(

[tdejong302]

Its sad to say laws now are primarily used against people that are either confused by the 50 page fishing/hunting guides or are just common citizens helping out a friend or neighbor. Or the hunters/fishers are just too young or haven't been taught the laws. Maybe our DNR should spend more time educating the citizenery then issuing tickets to people that didn't know the laws. Unless a serious offense occurs where I know the person knows he is breaking the law or policy I give a warning. Explain the offense to him and if I catch him again no more talking just writing. This seems to work the majority of the time. I realize sometimes attitudes and demeanor come into play and a ticket is written however communication and education should be the key. Not tickets or revenues.

I don't want to hear that hogwash about ignorance is bliss or its your responsilibity to know the laws.

I try to comply with the law while I hunt and fish however when I'm stopped I'm sure I could be written for some meager law that I didn't know even existed. If common sense dictates that person wasn't intentionally trying to evade or break the law then discretion should be used more. After reading some of the previous postings on this forum I realize I'm probably a minority on this issue. However thats my two cents. Hopefully I won't respond to any rude comments.

[darton bowhunter]

I cut down a small pine tree for a shooting lane. The tree was maby 3" round and 8' or 9' tall. I was visited by a co 11-15-05 at 10:00 am and given a total run down and a $70.00 ticket for the tree no warning. I will pay the ticket but I think $70 might be a bit too much for a small tree shi@t I can buy a christmas tree bigher than that for $20. Hien sight is 20/20!