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steelhead1
10-24-2005, 07:21 AM
The Times October 22, 2005
High Court strips animal rights activists of assets
By Nicola Woolcock
COMPANIES under pressure from animal rights protesters won a landmark High Court victory yesterday which paves the way for the seizure of activists’ funds.
The unprecedented ruling gave Huntingdon Life Sciences permission to empty the bank account of London Animal Action, heralding the enforcement of a new tactic against the assets owned by protesters.
It is thought to be the first time that the finances of an animal rights organisation have been appropriated by one of its targets.
Huntingdon Life Sciences (HLS), Britain’s largest research laboratory, has suffered relentless intimidation.
It has run up a bill of nearly £300,000 in bringing injunctions against protesters, after staff and directors endured hate mail, harassment, assault and noisy demonstrations outside their homes.
The court orders have created exclusion zones around its Cambridgeshire premises and the homes of staff, contractors and their families.
But the company is trying to retrieve its costs by seizing the funds of the groups which campaign to have it closed.
Yesterday, London Animal Action failed in its High Court appeal against a wider order that allowed HLS to seek costs from a number of individuals and animal rights groups. HLS has now gained possession of the contents of its bank account, nearly £7,000, and was also awarded a further costs order of £9,000.
The action group argued that the earlier order was unlawful, because the group has no formal membership or elected officers and is an unincorporated association, which does not normally exist in law.
In dismissing the appeal, Mr Justice Mackay said: “The novelty of the form of order in this case is plain and the need for it is obvious.” He added that none of the group’s individual members had come forward to protest that he or she should not be liable.
The group was given leave to appeal against the £9,000 costs order, which gives HLS the right to pursue the finances of individual members.
Tim Lawson-Cruttenden, the lawyer who represents HLS, said after the judgment: “This is a breakthrough. It is the first time that a claimant has been able to attack the general funds of a group like this.
“Hopefully this will open the door to industry taking funds from animal rights groups who are unlawfully harassing them.”
I know this happened in England and not the USA but could this happen to PETA? One can only hope.
pacer88220
10-24-2005, 08:54 PM
The Times October 22, 2005
High Court strips animal rights activists of assets
By Nicola Woolcock
COMPANIES under pressure from animal rights protesters won a landmark High Court victory yesterday which paves the way for the seizure of activists’ funds.
The unprecedented ruling gave Huntingdon Life Sciences permission to empty the bank account of London Animal Action, heralding the enforcement of a new tactic against the assets owned by protesters.
It is thought to be the first time that the finances of an animal rights organisation have been appropriated by one of its targets.
Huntingdon Life Sciences (HLS), Britain’s largest research laboratory, has suffered relentless intimidation.
It has run up a bill of nearly £300,000 in bringing injunctions against protesters, after staff and directors endured hate mail, harassment, assault and noisy demonstrations outside their homes.
The court orders have created exclusion zones around its Cambridgeshire premises and the homes of staff, contractors and their families.
But the company is trying to retrieve its costs by seizing the funds of the groups which campaign to have it closed.
Yesterday, London Animal Action failed in its High Court appeal against a wider order that allowed HLS to seek costs from a number of individuals and animal rights groups. HLS has now gained possession of the contents of its bank account, nearly £7,000, and was also awarded a further costs order of £9,000.
The action group argued that the earlier order was unlawful, because the group has no formal membership or elected officers and is an unincorporated association, which does not normally exist in law.
In dismissing the appeal, Mr Justice Mackay said: “The novelty of the form of order in this case is plain and the need for it is obvious.” He added that none of the group’s individual members had come forward to protest that he or she should not be liable.
The group was given leave to appeal against the £9,000 costs order, which gives HLS the right to pursue the finances of individual members.
Tim Lawson-Cruttenden, the lawyer who represents HLS, said after the judgment: “This is a breakthrough. It is the first time that a claimant has been able to attack the general funds of a group like this.
“Hopefully this will open the door to industry taking funds from animal rights groups who are unlawfully harassing them.”
I know this happened in England and not the USA but could this happen to PETA? One can only hope.
I agree but only to an extent. PETA was aimed at HUMANE treatment of animals. Not till the Clinton administration did we see it grow out of it's roots.
I dont hunt horses but I do have a neighbor of mine who owns several that well she shouldn't. That said she also owns a couple of wolves that disappear everytime the authorities show up. Do I think she should own any? And PETA has been contacted along with several other agencies.
The agencies (who report their claims as fact or fiction) back to PETA who in the end decide if they have a cause for action.
I mean this in terms if you have 32 cats ,9 horses ( which have no shelter or proper feeding habits) and combine that with 5 dogs of various breeds including the wolf as mentioned who is to be put in charge of overseeing any misactions.
Years ago, Today included, People were and are leery of the DNR.
That said rules were written to protect if they were not written you couldnt break them correct?
O.k well time has come when people needed more humane treatment aimed at animals. Wasn't very long ago we faced the same problems regarding sex or race either.
If people followed common sense in the first place we wouldn't have a need for rules, agencies, or courts.
But seeing they dont, this is where weare here.
On a lighter note if we hadn't had a Clinton administration run our lives the way they did then PETA wouldn't have had a chance crossing the lines between humanely killing a huntable species or breaking the law.
Just my thoughts but.....
Beware for what and who you vote for.
That and I myself am a PROUD hunter as well.
Never give one party more power then the others because in the end it will bite you.
Look how long it took to get the sniper rifle ban appealed. Still hasn't been fully achieved yet either.
pacer88220
10-24-2005, 09:13 PM
HUNTER if this pleases anyone.
These people in PETA are LUNATICS. I just looked at peta2.com and the people on there are seriously crazy... I said something about deer hunting and they called me a neanderthal and even posted a picture of one. Hunting organizations have probably saved more animals than PETA, but all they can say about that is try and insult me. It really is sad to see so many younger people there(younger than me).
pacer88220
10-24-2005, 10:10 PM
These people in PETA are LUNATICS.
Thats Kinda what I was saying. Yes they were and are needed but no at the level they have wound up at.
This could sum up PETA:
"Animals are incredibly smart. In fact, dolphins can communicate with human beings and even cure cancer"
Found that on a PETA forum. Done with that forum, losing brain cells by the minute.
ghsthntr
10-25-2005, 08:19 AM
try living next to a peta member, i have had to put this moron in his place on more than 1 occasion, he is constantly on my kids about how my hunting is against his beliefs, and that his civil rights are being violated, keeps trying to give my 6 yr old veggie burgers, but my son is something else he tells the guy
if it aint a real hamburger he isnt eating it :lol:. i do agree with pacer on some of his post as well,,, I.E. my wife and i are a rescue for chinchillas and
cockatiels you wouldnt believe how stupidity sometimes takes over an adult
mind when it comes to an animal, but peta is just to far out in left field for my thinking, and its about time someone holds them accountable for there terrorist actions, hopefully the courts in north carolina will take the same stance against them for the dogs that they killed and then illegally dumped in a dumpster down there,,
safetreehunt
10-25-2005, 08:44 AM
In Wayne LaPierre's Debate with PETA's Andrew Butler, he noted that the FBI considers PETA as part of the environmental terrorist groups that are considered to be more dangerous and violent than the threat from Al-Quaida. The substance that links PETA to this activity is the fact that they fund the defense of the people that have been caught. Thereby connecting them directly to the eco-terrorist activities of the even more radical and violent groups.
pacer88220
10-25-2005, 11:11 AM
Well honestly the FBI consider's everyone even this group as a threat. Let alone a terrorist. Why we own guns have profiency and such. I know a little left field right . Well honestly this statement is very much true.
I am not agreeing 100% with what PETA is doing or has done. I do agree with what their original objectives were and that was humane treatment of animals.
Not until a few years ago did they grow out of hand. To the point of threatening hunting and trapping. They did so with help from congress and such. How do you think they got so powerful?
Eitherway with any group this one included you have left, right, and the I dont care's.
The I dont's are just as guilty as everyone else for it has happened or about to, And we allowed it to happen.
With the amount of hunters in this state let alone country, and such how have we let so many rights be taken away?
Yes PETA has gotten out of control from what they were first grouped for, but then so did other groups as well. Madd being one of them as well. Remember them assualting people as they came out of bars. Funny thing was as I recall they attacked a couple getting in a cab for heavens sake.
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