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deputy
10-23-2005, 05:06 PM
By SANDY SHORE, AP Business Writer
Fri Oct 21, 8:03 AM ET



DENVER - The owner of The Dish Network said Thursday it pulled the Outdoor Life Network from its system after the cable channel failed to provide NHL games to the nation's second-largest satellite television provider.


EchoStar Communications Corp. spokesman Marc Lumpkin said the network did not show games on Oct. 10-11 and on Monday and Tuesday as advertised. "We were not given advance notice that they would not show the programming," he said.

Although best known for broadcasting the Tour de France and cyclist Lance Armstrong, OLN this fall took over broadcasting National Hockey League games on cable from ESPN, a unit of The Walt Disney Co.

"We are surprised and disappointed that Dish has unilaterally chosen to stop providing OLN to its customers, and denied fans the opportunity to watch sports coverage on OLN," spokeswoman Amy Phillips said.

The contract dispute between EchoStar and OLN revolves around OLN's placement in a higher-priced channel package by Dish Network, which is distributed to fewer viewers.

OLN, owned by cable giant Comcast Corp., set a requirement that the channel must be seen by 40 percent of a cable or satellite TV system's viewers in order for it to broadcast the NHL games. It said the Dish Network has failed to meet that requirement.

Lumpkin declined to comment on the specifics of the dispute.

EchoStar would have to move the channel from its top package to a lower-cost package that may have fewer channels but more viewers. That would raise the fees Dish Network viewers pay.

"We work hard to provide choice for customers and to keep prices low," Eric Sahl, an EchoStar senior vice president, said in a statement. "Most of our customers have made the decision they do not want to pay the additional cost of watching the channel."

EchoStar hasn't been afraid to take on networks before. In March 2004, it pulled Viacom Inc. programming — including MTV, the Comedy Channel and Nickelodeon — from the Dish Network for two days until an agreement was struck on a long-term contract.

Based in suburban Englewood, EchoStar's Dish Network has about 11.4 million customers.

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Foreveryoung001
10-23-2005, 09:46 PM
I noticed that the other night. Went to check the nightly line-up of hunting shows, and sure enough it was gone. Didn't watch it much anyway.

wickedcarpenter
10-23-2005, 11:00 PM
$89 bucks a month for crap and reruns! If OLN is off for good in my programming i'll go back to cable. Or they can wack $80 off my bill a month :rant: Are they smoking left handed camels or what? It's bad enough they run the the PBR everytime i turn on OLN. Fly fish TV is gone what's next?
Their sucking my will to live!

Alpha Male
10-24-2005, 08:09 AM
OLN is the suck.

How in thee flying sam hell is NHL programing congruent with the 'outdoor life' branding ? Professional Bull Riding? Skateboarding? I think soon that OLN will undergo a transition not unlike what TNN did a few years ago.

So...who still provides The Outdoor Channel ? Not perfect, but better, and I can't find them.

Swamp Monster
10-24-2005, 12:13 PM
So...who still provides The Outdoor Channel ? Not perfect, but better, and I can't find them.

The Dish Network still has the outdoor channel and the Mens channel. OLN turned into mostly a granola sport channel anyway, not much of a loss really. The Outdoor shows that were on OLN, the decent ones anyway, will probably move to one of the others.

Mad Jack
10-24-2005, 12:22 PM
I have Direct T.V And i Thought OLN sucked to so I Added the Outdoor Channel to my programming package 1.99 extra a month.
I Hardly ever watch OLN anymore...

john warren
10-24-2005, 02:29 PM
hmmm outdoor life network..... don't they play hockey indoors?

boots741
10-24-2005, 06:02 PM
Yeah, it figures, and what is the Red Wing game on tonight, thats right OLN, and who has Dish, I do...sighhh.

On Point
10-25-2005, 09:13 AM
"Dish Network is dedicated to keeping costs low for it's customers", my *ss.
I've had Dish Network for years because I can't get cable, and they usually have a better line-up for the price compared to Direct TV. Last year, my top 150 package (so I could have OLN, Outdoor Channel, and Mens Channel) became a top 180 package for about $8.00 more a month. The 30 channels that were added are mostly crap. I think Dish dropped OLN because they can't make their margins off of it. I would at least like the option to add it "al-a-cart" if I choose.

Mike

slayer
10-25-2005, 09:39 AM
I have Direct T.V And i Thought OLN sucked to so I Added the Outdoor Channel to my programming package 1.99 extra a month.
I Hardly ever watch OLN anymore...
:yeahthat: I have had the outdoor channel for 2 yrs and it rocks !!!! Way better than oln.....

john warren
10-25-2005, 09:48 AM
ok ,,, watched the redwings kick butt on oln last night and simply have to say there coverage was sub par to what we usualy get from micky redmon here in michigan.

WinMag
10-26-2005, 12:27 PM
That's a bummer. I used to enjoy OLN, but there was too much PBR and Lance. I'm an outdoorsman and I don't want to watch anyone ride a bike or bull. I want to see something that can help me be a better hunter and fisherman. Now, I'm mad at TV in general. When I like a show, they cancel it. Cable keeps jerking the channels around, changing locations and offerings. I used to pay $80+ just for cable so I could enjoy a show when I wanted to. I had cable turned off and now I have more time to read hunting magazines and go hunting. TV used to suck up a lot of my time. Try this: instead of watching TV, subscribe to Field and Stream or Woods and Water. These cost only about $15 per year and the information is better and you can take them with you. Instead of watching someone else hunt on TV, use the time to organize and clean your gear, change batteries in or repair your gear, and plan your next hunt. Better yet, use that hour or two to work out or exercise and you'll feel better the next time you go into the woods.

Now, I have only regular TV and I can still catch Michigan-Out-of-Doors on PBS Saturday mornings. I get more done and I have an extra $80 each month to put gas in my vehicle and go hunting. My wife and kids don't miss the TV and they get more and better things done, too. If we want to watch something, we can go to the library and check out videos and DVDs for free.

With all these services (cable, satellite TV, HDTV, TVO, satellite radio, high speed web), its easy to spend too much time listening and watching instead of doing. And besides, they want to charge me for it! They always want my social security number and my bank account number. That makes me mad. As long as I pay the bill, why do they need my personal info? If I don't pay, then turn the dog on service off and leave me alone! I like the way it used to be when TV went off at night and there wasn't so many distractions from the really important things. Boy, I'm beginning to sound like a curmudgeon. Time to go hunting again. ;)

Turn the TV off for a week and see your life improve. Then, keep it off most of the time.