Bait piles

[SR-Mechead]

I came back to Michigan this week only to find carrots all over the place. I thought I had a good spot ,but a family must have moved in and put up 3 stands within 100 yds of mine and must have $50.00 of bait at each one.
I went and sat tonight and I saw 5 cows and 6 horses,but the nice part is they ate all the carrots and SH!!all over the place.I have walked in the woods this week and I have seen more bait than ever before.

[Ack]

I hear ya man. I hunt a small 20 acre piece of woods that is basically surrounded by fields. I actually only have permission to hunt about half of that, so I do not have much to work with. The other day I just happened to notice 3 different spots set up around the perimeter of the property I hunt, 2 with corn piles and 1 with a beet pile, all basically cutting me off from all of the main travel routes. :rant:

First of all, there is sooooo much food out there for the deer right now between the crops and the mast in the woods, and second of all, with a piece of woods that small the deer generally do not even come to these "piles" until dark. I am not specificaly criticizing all bait pile hunters, but just wish that some of these rookies would get a clue...bait can be your own worst enemy, and the next guy's too!

[wild bill]

all the more reason to make it illegal statewide.

[Ack]

all the more reason to make it illegal statewide.

Sounds good to me! ;)

[bmarken]

amen

[Munsterlndr]

If the bait piles are illegal, and the original description of $50 worth of bait in each pile sure sounds that way , then mark the location and call your local CO. Illegal baiting should be reported. If you choose not to report it then you are contributing to the problem and should not be complaining about it.

If the piles are legal, get over it, unless you just intended that this become a bait bashing thread. If that's the case you are off to a good start.

[swampbuck]

all the more reason to make it illegal statewide.

couldnt have said it better myself!!!!

[bearguy]

Illegal baits definitely need to be turned in to the CO's. They can't find every violator on their own and appreciate the help from honest sportsmen. I am not opposed to baiting but I would like to see it stopped. The deer would move better in my area if everyone quit baiting. My only concern with any action on deer baiting is that bear baiting would be targeted as well.

Maybe we should just leave legal baiting alone and call RAP on the illegal.

[PWood]

I am not opposed to baiting but I would like to see it stopped. :confused:

[kdogger]

I am not opposed to baiting but I would like to see it stopped. Hmmm. Nice contradictory statement!

[Adam Waszak]

I came back to Michigan this week only to find carrots all over the place. I thought I had a good spot ,but a family must have moved in and put up 3 stands within 100 yds of mine and must have $50.00 of bait at each one.
I went and sat tonight and I saw 5 cows and 6 horses,but the nice part is they ate all the carrots and SH!!all over the place.I have walked in the woods this week and I have seen more bait than ever before.


First wild pigs up there and now cows and horses too :dizzy: Better call it in if you need officer Wells number get with me he will git r dun trust me I have talked to him already a few times and he jumped on it like a prom date

AW

[tdduckman]

All "piles" of bait are illegal and should be turned in

Current regulations below : (if 2 gallons of corn is spread to 10'x10' then there is NO pile)


In Alcona, Alpena, Crawford, Montmorency, Oscoda, Otsego, and Presque Isle counties:

All baiting is prohibited.
In the remainder of the state (deer only - elk baiting is illegal in Michigan):


Baiting may occur only from October 1 to January 1.
The bait material may be of any food type.
The volume of bait at any hunting site cannot exceed two gallons.
The bait must be dispersed over a minimum of a 10-foot x 10-foot area.
The bait must be scattered directly on the ground. It can be scattered by any means, including mechanical spin-cast feeders, provided that the spin-cast feeder does not distribute more than the maximum volume allowed.
Food plots, naturally occurring foods, standing agricultural crops, or food placed as a result of using normal agricultural practices are not considered to be baiting.

[SR-Mechead]

If the bait piles are illegal, and the original description of $50 worth of bait in each pile sure sounds that way , then mark the location and call your local CO. Illegal baiting should be reported. If you choose not to report it then you are contributing to the problem and should not be complaining about it.

If the piles are legal, get over it, unless you just intended that this become a bait bashing thread. If that's the case you are off to a good start.

This was not mean't to bash baiting .All I was saying is that the woods looks like a big carrot patch. I took another walk today only to find a couple of more. People have to learn what 2 gallons is. I could care less if they bait.

[bearguy]

Sorry for confusing you kdogger. I should clarify. I don't care what legal method of hunting anyone uses. I would just like to see more people stop using bait, on a voluntary basis. Is this less contradictory?:lol:

[uptracker]

Hey...dnr...listen To Us...it's Killing Us...please Make It Stop.

[deadstream]

baiting=what a waste of time. If a hunter who baits would spend as much time scouting as they do trudging through the woods with a bag over their shoulder they might actually learn something about the woods...

[bmarken]

preach it!:lol:

[Adam Waszak]

baiting=what a waste of time. If a hunter who baits would spend as much time scouting as they do trudging through the woods with a bag over their shoulder they might actually learn something about the woods...


Someday we will learn hopefully old wise one :bowdown:

AW

[trailsend]

all the more reason to make it illegal statewide.

Lets ban baiting because some break the rules :confused:

Its a bit of a stretch but it seems to be the same logic as "ban guns and only criminals will have guns" I guess my opinion is if they are violating now will another written rule/law will make them stop:confused: .

[SR-Mechead]

I did not write this thread to get a ban on baiting. If hunters want to bait go ahead and bait but my god making piles 6 foot diameter is getting out of hand. If the dnr thinks that big bait piles help the cause of TB then we as hunters should listen and help them out.

[JAG]

With all of the bait "piles" and acorns and crops still standing, one thing is for sure. The deer we take this year should be fat and happy!!

[Liver and Onions]

.......... but my god making piles 6 foot diameter is getting out of hand. .....

Actually, if the bait is being spread out in a circle, the diameter should be about 32' or greater.
Pi(D)=100
3.14(D)=100
D=31.8'

L & O

[SR-Mechead]

Actually, if the bait is being spread out in a circle, the diameter should be about 32' or greater.
Pi(D)=100
3.14(D)=100
D=31.8'

L & O

I understand were you are coming from L&O but 6 foot dia and two high is not a good thing. I don't think 2 1/2 gallons will spread 32 feet but I could be wrong. Baiting is ok but using common sense is the way to go.

[2-BIG]

Come on guys, lets all get along and let each other hunt the way they want to. We only help the anti's when we disagree on stuff like baiting. Lets hold hands and sing "We are the world" and make this a better place for us hunters! :gaga: Sorry, just joking but I had to do it! ;) :lol:

[SmallGameStalker]

Actually, if the bait is being spread out in a circle, the diameter should be about 32' or greater.
Pi(D)=100
3.14(D)=100
D=31.8'

L & O

The equation for the area of a circle is:

pi(radius)^2=Area

According to the regulations (as I understand them) the 2 gallons of bait must be spread out over a 10'x10' area, or 100 square feet. Thus,

pi(radius)^2=100 sq. ft.
radius^2=100 sq. ft./3.1415926=31.83 sq. ft.
radius= sqrt(31.83)
radius= 5.64ft

diameter= 2 * radius
diameter= 11.28 feet

You need to spread the two gallons of bait in a circle at least 11' 4" in diameter.

Q.E.D.

[Alpha Male]

My $0.02.

I don't bait. Have in the past, don't anymore.

What does 2 gallons on sugar beets look like? Carrots?

While the 2 gallon requirement for quantity may equate easily enough for shelled corn or other commercial grain, it does not with the various legumes that are commonly used in Michigan.

Personally I think baitpiles are the easiest way to catch Bubbas taking-attempting to take deer out of season / after hours, because it does a great job of turning deer nocturnal in a matter of days in conjuntion with the kind of pressure we put on our animals.

It is frustrating

[duckhunter382]

If you spread a little bit of shelled corn in your shooting lanes, It will slow the deer down and keep them in your area longer. Also it will allow you to take a better shot and hopefully it will reduce the number of cripples. that being said anyone who makes piles the sizes you guys are talking about is just dumb. but why take away somebody elses legal method. you are just feeding peta and other groups with more ammo against us. united we stand divided we fall. and I dont know about everyone else but I dont want to lose my right to hunt.