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HunterHads
09-01-2005, 11:43 PM
Any of you used this head? Looks good but I am concerned on how big the entrance hole is because I do not always get a passthrough. what do you think?




5-J
09-02-2005, 10:19 AM
I bought a set of these this year at a 3D shoot where Hypershock had a booth. The theory behind them sounds good to me. We'll see when I shoot my buck.

As far as the entrance hole size, I think it is a matter of the size of the broadhead diameter and arrow shaft diameter. The broadhead doesn't open up until after it passes through the hide. It's the entrance barrier (hide) that opens the blades.

Now if you want to talk about the exit hole, that should be another whole different story.

HunterHads
09-02-2005, 01:09 PM
I know that the exit wound is big but I do not always get a pass through and I am concerned that if I don't then I will not have a blood trail.

Death_From_Above
09-02-2005, 01:32 PM
Abosolute Junk! I tried them last year. Your fears are real. Entry wound..will produce very little blood if any. If you don't pass through your done.

I shot a doe last year with mine, hit the front shoulder, the head seemed to wedge itself in bone, she went 1/2 mile across a field and down into a gully. Found her the next morning as I just let her lay that night. The head didn't even get to the arrow shaft. I'm still not sure how she died as I never hit a vital organ.

Yes it was a poor shot, but with my spitfires I would have punched right through. I'm going back to spitfires.

That's my experience with them. Good theory...bad design! They do fly nice though.

RackSmacker
09-02-2005, 07:30 PM
I shot three deer with the 125's last year and had awesome results on all 3. Not one of the deer went more than 60 yards and all 3 has tremendous blood trails. I did have exit holes on all three, but a large portion of the blood was at head level coming from the deer's mouth, so I believe that even if I hadn't had an exit hole that I still would have had little trouble finding them.

deputy
09-02-2005, 09:55 PM
I shot a doe last year with mine, hit the front shoulder


dont hit the shoulder next time, poor shot placement is not the gears fault it is yours.

and yes we all have had those oops shots in our life but to blame the broadhead is wrong it seemed to better than your spitfire in the test!

but with my spitfires I would have punched right through

so your saying you have made this shot beofre then? with your spitfires?

I'm still not sure how she died as I never hit a vital organ.

magic. :rolleyes:

Zulu
09-03-2005, 12:59 AM
You may want to check out the broadhead testing results posted on the Michigan United Conservation Clubs website (www.mucc.org (http://www.mucc.org/)). Some of the actual testing aired on Michigan Out-Of-Doors this past Thursday, and the Hypershock did fairly well. It was a pretty interesting, albeit brief segment. Wish they would have done testing on a wider range of broadheads. This is the direct link to the page that has the results for the testing on mechanicals: http://www.mucc.org/MechanicalHeads.htm

Out of the mechanicals the Snyper seemed to do the best. I switched back to fixed blades recently (Thunderheads 100g), but after seeing the results of the Snyper for pentration, durability and precision I'm starting to think about giving them a try. Shot placement is (of course) the most important thing, but it's sure nice to have a broadhead that's forgiving when human error, or an invisible branch, comes into play. It's also nice to have a broadhead that pretty much flies exactly like your field points.

Death_From_Above
09-03-2005, 11:31 AM
Never said poor shot placement was the broadheads fault. Just said it seemed to wedge itself into the bone. It got to the tongs that open the blade and could not open due to being surrounded by bone and stopped.

Have never shot a deer in the front shoulders with a spitfire. But truly believe since the blades open from the front that I would have had much more potential to punch through. Or with my thunderheads that I shot for years.

As far as the vital organ comment. I gutted her and nothing was damaged. Heck there wasn't even much blood where she died. Magic...probable not. Maybe she had a heart atack!

My opinion is I didn't like them. I'll leave it at that.

Deputy i've lost one deer in my hunting life, went into a swamp and I could not track it down. Been hunting for 20 years taking over 40 deer. I don't shoot for the shoulder and kind of resent that comment. We can't all be perfect, bad shots happen it's having the knowledge to back out when they happen and still retrieve that game that counts. I found her, and ate her! :corkysm55

deputy
09-03-2005, 02:47 PM
never said that anyone was perfect i have lost 2 deer in my life one was my fault for sure early on in my nieve ways of hunting! the ohter was a buck i hit with a slug gun behind the shoulder 2years ago! knocked it right down blood every were climbed down and gone had bllod right to the marsh spent 2 days in waders looking including under water searches with a rake. never found it iam still sick over it to this day! just sayig we blam gear for are poor placement, all of us have been there