MOOD Broadhead test

[Grouse Hunter]

Snypers are getting good ratings.

Byrons, gonna love this.

[nitrojoe]

Did that G5 Montec go all the way through the plywood? I was not paying very good attention.

[HoytRLWinstonGuy]

There were some very surprising results. That red one with the round blades did well too. Was that the Aftershock? It looked like the Montec only went about halfway through.

[Grouse Hunter]

No the Montec did not penetrate fully

http://www.mucc.org/Fixedblades.htm

[Michihunter]

I believe only the Snypers did out of both fixed and mechanicals. But I'd like to say one thing on behalf of the Montecs. They need to be sharpened out of the pack. If you read the review, they didn't shave hair out of the package, yet after penetrating a half an inch into the plywood they were still the same as they were right out of the package. I wish they would have used mine. It would have definitely went through the plywood. In fact, I may test them this weekend and tape it for all to see. ;)

[HunterHads]

I like the look of those Hypershocks, any of you used them?

[codybear]

I would like to know 2 things:

1) Why did every broadhead shoot low-left?

2) Being that the machine totally elliminated human error and put the field tips in the same hole, what were their findings that caused the most human error that effected shot placement? Obviously they had to fine tune the machine until they perfected it but I would like to know what things they discovered along the way that effected shots including the arrows..


CB

[Sib]

No the Montec did not penetrate fully

http://www.mucc.org/Fixedblades.htm

According to the link Muzzy 3 blade get the deepest penetration. I didn't see the segment unfortunately, sounds like an interesting one. I'll see if I can catch it Sat. am.

I'm a little confused because they were shooting into a 3/4" piece of plywood and the Muzzy goy .81" was it a complete passthrough?

[Michihunter]

That was fixed blade. The Snypers (mechanicals) were actually the most penetrating

[Sib]

Anybody have a link for the mechanical test? Would like to see it to compare against the fixed blades. I've been shooting Muzzy 3 blades for a while now and looks like for fixed blades it's a pretty good choice.

[Adam Waszak]

Well I can see they did not test the Thundeheads because they were on a budget and plywood is so expensive right now :lol: Thunderhead 125's booya ;)

AW

[hondakid]

here is the link for the mechanical heads:http://www.mucc.org/MechanicalHeads.htm

[Sib]

Wow, interesting results for the mechs. Spitfire showed the worst penetration of all heads in both catagories. And like was stated, the Snyper faired the best, about 50% better than the 2nd best head.

Thanks for the links guys. :)

[GVDocHoliday]

I noticed they didn't test the rocket steelhead...which is arguabley the best penetrating broadhead out of fixed and mech categories.

[Grouse Hunter]

I noticed they didn't test the rocket steelhead...which is arguabley the best penetrating broadhead out of fixed and mech categories.


WORD

[Kelly Johnson]

Originally Posted by GVDocHoliday
I noticed they didn't test the rocket steelhead...which is arguabley the best penetrating broadhead out of fixed and mech categories.




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Word X2 :D

[Buckmaster Flash]

Hit a pretty hefty 2.5 year old buck left of my aim point and got em thru some shoulder bone with Rocket Steelheads. Blew thru the left shoulder and penetrated bone on the opposite side shoulder but was sitting right inside the hide without penetrating the hide. I was impressed. Have also shot deer that were quartering away at a pretty sharp angle without any problems with Stealheads. As far as mechanicals go, this mechanical doesn't appear to suffer from the two biggest complaints people have about mechanicals.

[Kelly Johnson]

If your looking at mechanical heads...you'd be remiss not to check out Rocket's stuff.

I used the Wolverine and Mini blaster last year and could follow the trail in the dead of night in a rainstorm with a Bic lighter (true story).

[sullyxlh]

No Thunderheads??? I No Longer Will Wonder Why I Always Shoot Low Left With My Broadheads. Am Curious Though If They Would Shoot Low Right With A Left Handed Bow.that Slo Mo Vid Of The Bow Shot Was Real Sweet

[TnRidge]

I'll stick with my tried and true Muzzys.:)

[single shot]

After a poor performance with a spitfire 100 last season I will stay with the Thunderhead. I'm sure the spitfire would be great at a direct straight on shot, but on an angle my experience is they failed! One blade bent and the others I don't think opened fully.

[mkelly619]

I saw the show, but can't remember if the Snypers were the two blade or three blade verision. Anybody pick up on that?

[fairfax1]

During the December season I experimented with Snypers....following he great reviews on this head on www.ArcheryTalk.

1. It is expensive.

2. It is fragile......it's a one shot head.


That's all I can tell you ---the two shots I had at deer ..... I missed.

[Byron]

Snypers are getting good ratings.

Byrons, gonna love this.
Hey, you're right...I DO love this. It also coincides nicely with what I've seen them do on real game.

As for the comment on them being a one-shot head, well I guess they are, if you are shooting into rocks instead of deer. Try hitting the deer instead. You'll find them much more durable then.

Best Regards,
Byron

[Grouse Hunter]

Hey, you're right...I DO love this. It also coincides nicely with what I've seen them do on real game.

As for the comment on them being a one-shot head, well I guess they are, if you are shooting into rocks instead of deer. Try hitting the deer instead. You'll find them much more durable then.

Best Regards,
Byron


didn't they say that they were hardly damaged, if at all? If thats the case wouldn't it take just replacement blades to get them back to normal?

[Byron]

During the December season I experimented with Snypers....following he great reviews on this head on www.ArcheryTalk (http://www.archerytalk/).

1. It is expensive.

2. It is fragile......it's a one shot head.


That's all I can tell you ---the two shots I had at deer ..... I missed.
Grouse,

This is the post to which I referred in my second paragraph.

Best Regards,
Byron

[tommy-n]

And if you remember my post about the snipers last year, bad shot , hit bone and the main body frame bent right over. I killed a few with them, but after that I'll stick with something thats more durable. What I did like about them was the way they open and on a good shot the entrace and exit hole was awesome.

[fairfax1]

Duhhh! Why didn't I think of that! What WAS I thinking?

"As for the comment on them being a one-shot head, well I guess they are, if you are shooting into rocks instead of deer. Try hitting the deer instead. Best Regards,"

[Byron]

Duhhh! Why didn't I think of that! What WAS I thinking?

"As for the comment on them being a one-shot head, well I guess they are, if you are shooting into rocks instead of deer. Try hitting the deer instead. Best Regards,"
Sorry you didn't like my comment, but seriously, how can you claim the Snyper is a "one-shot head" when you haven't even hit a deer with it? Did you read the results of the MUCC testing? The Snyper made it through 3/4" plywood with little or no damage. If your misses destroyed the Snyper, they would have very likely destroyed any other head, anyway. How does that lead to any meaningful conclusion regarding their durability?

Best Regards,
Byron

[triplehooked]

I like the results of the snypers, think I'll give them a try this year, no one has brought up the fact that these flew the closest to field tips at less than 3/4 of an inch off of bullseye, that is pretty good. I would have liked the rockets tested though, I've shot the steelheads and sidewinders for two years now, both performed flawlessly with nice blood trails, average fifty yard runs with a double lung hit. The Snyper's tip reminds me of the old two blades I used to use, kinda cool.
Good luck in the chase!

[GVDocHoliday]

I like the results of the snypers, think I'll give them a try this year, no one has brought up the fact that these flew the closest to field tips at less than 3/4 of an inch off of bullseye, that is pretty good. I would have liked the rockets tested though, I've shot the steelheads and sidewinders for two years now, both performed flawlessly with nice blood trails, average fifty yard runs with a double lung hit. The Snyper's tip reminds me of the old two blades I used to use, kinda cool.
Good luck in the chase!


I really like both of these heads. I really think the steelhead would have had better accuracy scores due to it's length.

But for mechs, I don't think there are any better heads then the steelhead or snyper. Heck, I don't even like the design of the 3-blade snyper.


Byron...I suggest you get a hold of Frank Rus at Archery Unlimited Inc. in Grand Rapids. Ask him about his titanium snypers!!! They are a 100% titanium body with a chisel tip. They take both the snyper and gator blades. Archery Unlimited is the only place you can buy these on the entire planet!!

[Byron]

Byron...I suggest you get a hold of Frank Rus at Archery Unlimited Inc. in Grand Rapids. Ask him about his titanium snypers!!! They are a 100% titanium body with a chisel tip. They take both the snyper and gator blades. Archery Unlimited is the only place you can buy these on the entire planet!!
Got pics? Linkage?

I'm totally happy with the performance of the blade-tipped aluminum Snypers, but I'd be willing to check them out.

Thanks,
Byron

[fairfax1]

Sorry you didn't like my comment, but seriously, how can you claim the Snyper is a "one-shot head" when you haven't even hit a deer with it? Did you read the results of the MUCC testing? The Snyper made it through 3/4" plywood with little or no damage. If your misses destroyed the Snyper, they would have very likely destroyed any other head, anyway. How does that lead to any meaningful conclusion regarding their durability?

Best Regards,
Byron

Hey brother, peace. You were real helpful to me last year when I was testing the Snypers....helped me with how to keep the blades closed for practice shots, etc. Plus, your comments...and others on ArcheryTalk....led me to give 'em a try. So, don't take my comments as dissing you or the Snypers

Plus, I gave 'em a try because I'm a fan of the Barries and the Rocky Mountain product line. A couple of years ago I called their operations in Minnesota with questions on their Ti-100. Bob Barrie himself took my call and handled my inquiries graciously and completely, then sent me two pre-production samples of their yet to be introduced Tradition and Ironhead 100. I thought that was really cool beans.

But, I'm still a judgmental consumer, and though the Ti-100's worked fine, and the blades have that wonderful Rocky Mountain sharpness, they functioned no better than what I had been using --- but cost twice as much. They surely were not twice as durable than, say a Thunderhead or a Muzzy.

That brought me to Snypers. The reviews from 5-Shot, you, and numerous others have been glowing. So I bought a pack...at about $8.50 per head.

They shot well on the range, better than Thunderheads but about the same as the 4-blade 100grn Muzzy. Regrettably, the two shots I took at deer with the Snypers in December...I missed (it happens). I lost the tip-blade completely (broken) the replaceable blades were really beat up and not worth re-sharpening...the aluminum body was fine. I could have simply put in new blades and been good to go.

I concluded: #1..It's probable I'll miss more deer in the future; #2.... this head seemed to be really worse-for-the-wear when I missed; and #3...at the cost of the new head, and then the replaceable blades...well, it seemed salty to me. Hence, my comment on "one-shot head".

Now, Byron, you are quite right in pointing out that because I didn't hit a deer that my judgement may be premature....that is a valid point.

Maybe, I'll give 'em a try again simply because I'm impressed by your passion for 'em.

[Byron]

fairfax1,

We are definitely at peace. Your original comment on the Snyper being fragile, with no real explanation, just tilted me a bit. My original reply was probably a bit too pointed, as a result. For that, I apologize.

I'll let you in on a little secret; I've missed deer with the Snypers, too! When I do and the head is damaged, it's on me. Sure, it beats up the blades, depending on how unlucky you are hitting rocks in the dirt, but I expect it if they don't slow down a bit through the deer. I just thought it was unfair to tell people that the head is fragile when it wasn't really used in its designed context.

Stick with it until you at least put it through a deer or two and see what it can do. Once you do, you'll know why I have such great passion for the virtues of this head! Peace, out! :grouphug: :D

Best Regards,
Byron

[farmlegend]

Did I read it right on MUCC's site, that no 2-blade heads were even included in the test?

What would Dr. Ashby say about that?

[Pinefarm]

I currently shoot the Nitrons. Having shot and tested many others from the store, I'm sold on the Nitrons. Although Thunderheads and Muzzy's are near equals. I went 1 for 1 on a doe last year with Nitrons and she went like 14 paces. I'm beyod impressed with Nitrons while shooting at a broadhead target and they are extremely sharp. They get a 10 in my book.

[mich buckmaster]

I shoot the two blade snyper and killed a 245# bruiser in 2002, a 180# 8 point in 2004 and a few does with all of them going approximately 50 yards and some 20 yards.

I like them, and they fly great!!!

[mkelly619]

According to the specs that they post...the snypers used were the 2 blade variety.