View Full Version : 100 grain, Best Broadhead
rodboy
07-04-2005, 09:37 PM
Hello guys.
Switching from 75 grain to 100 grain. What kind of head do yous guys prefer?
I'm curently shooting rocket retractables and ultamate steel. Would like to try something else for a change..:dizzy:
lawnboy
07-04-2005, 09:58 PM
I’ve been shooting the muzzy for years and I think this will be a first but I’m moving on and would also like to hear what others have to say.
noname
07-04-2005, 10:13 PM
If you like mechanicals try Rocky Mountain Snypers. They have a new design this year which I havent tried, before they were 2 blade with a coc tip, now they are 3 blade with a heavier tip. I shot many deer with them, all but one were pass throughs. The thing that sets them apart from all the rest is the open before they pass threw the hide, so even if you dont blow all the way threw you still have a good entrance wound. G5 makes the Tekan which looks like a good head, blades cam like the Snypers.
Here is a link that shows how the Snypers work compared to regular mechanicals like the Spitfire
http://www.rockymtbroadheads.com/01-snyper.html
For fixed blades Muzzy is probably the best, I tried Montecs last year, I shot one deer with them. Good head but nothin special. Rocky makes some awesome fixed heads too. I've shot the Premier and the Ironhead.
Most important you gotta find the head that flies good for you. They all fly different out of different setups.
Good Luck
fulldraw
07-05-2005, 12:18 PM
For 100gr. I love my slick tricks they are awesome. :)
fulldraw
Swamp Monster
07-05-2005, 01:03 PM
I use the Wasp Boss SST's. No experience on game with them yet, but considering their design, on game performance will not be an issue. They fly superbly out to 40 yards, have not tried anything longer. These impact exactly where my field tips impact at speeds in the 260's.
check these out as well
http://innerloc.com/Pages/home.htm
I have used the fixed blade Innerlocs in the past and they are arguably the strongest changeable blade broadhead on the market, right there with Muzzy if not better. I switched to the Wasps just to experiment, but I still have and would not hesitate to use the Innerlocs again. They have a stainless version out now as well. They certainly don't look as fancy as some ofthe newer designs but they flat out work.
There are so many good designs out, just find one that flys well with your set up and you're all set. If I were to try mechanicals again, the Snypers would be my first and only choice.
Cherokee
07-05-2005, 01:22 PM
Think you should check out the Nitron broadhead from New Archery.
It flies great and it is strong.
holzy
07-05-2005, 02:16 PM
If you like mechanicals try Rocky Mountain Snypers
:yeahthat: :yeahthat: :yeahthat:
rodboy
07-05-2005, 02:54 PM
Though you guys sould know, I'm in the high 290fps.
Swamp Monster
07-05-2005, 03:08 PM
With todays fixed blade heads designed for high speed bows, it should not make a difference, at least if your bow is tuned properly and your arrows are spined correctly.
Kelly Johnson
07-05-2005, 04:38 PM
With 280-285+ speeds you may have issue with some larger fixed blade heads wind planing.
Some can be made to work but you must make certain the insert is perfectly square, head fits square and is balanced and nock sits perfectly. Not all arrow components are created equal.
Last year I couldn't seem to get the Magnus ehads to fly without "knuckleballing.... Went to a smaller profile head (Rocket Ultimate steel 75s) and wasn't real happy either.
I'll be upping arrow weight by 25+ grains (slow it down a bit) and back to a fixed blade cut on contact.
TnRidge
07-05-2005, 08:48 PM
I like Muzzys , but if I wanted to try another fixed blade head for a faster bow , I would use a NAP Nitron .It's a low profile BH that is less prone to wind planing at higher speeds .
Bowhunter30
07-05-2005, 10:18 PM
I like 100 grain Thunderheads, they fly great and still have an ok cutting diameter. I used to shoot a larger grain, but did not like the flight of the arrow when using those larger heads - heck of a hole though! I have shot the mechanical Spitfires and they were great in flight, but not the penetration like the traditional broadheads. So, I made the switch back. I knocked down two bucks this year, both of which only ran 20-30 yards from where I shot them. I also have 2 buddies who have shot many bigger bucks than I and both of them swear by them.
One of the main reasons, is when they are out traveling or in a pinch, Thunderheads are always being sold somewhere - very popular brand.
But, just as bows - there are many good heads out there, I am sure there will be a lot of suggestions to help you out.;)
454casull
07-06-2005, 09:52 AM
Without getting into the specifics if your set up. Even with a "highly" tuned bow any of the standard 100 grain bHds could plane on you if your form is even slightly off. I am in the high 280's and have been shooting the thunderhead 85's and 100's for a long time with no complaints but not perfect either. I recently started using the 100gr Rocket Steelheads on another set up (slightly slower) and they fly true to the field point. For your set up I would take a good long look at the 2 blade Snypers or the Rocket Steelheads. The rockets do not engage the insert threads a great deal but I have not heard of this condition causing a failure. At the speed you are claiming unless you are shooting soda straws the KE should be more than enough to blow through any whitetail you will encounter.
langkg
07-06-2005, 12:56 PM
Good thread.
I've taken many deer with 100 grain Satellite Titan 100's and Steel Force 100's. I really like the Satellites but they are a little bit thin on the main blade between the cutting edge and window. I've had a few blades crack in this area after shooting deer. I must note however that I was a shooting a very old and slow Browning bow with aluminum arrows and I've recently upgraded to a Mathews Outback and Easton SST carbons which is a much faster rig. I'll have to try the old standbys to see if they fly OK.
Anybody shoot a Wensel Woodsman with a "fast" bow?
-KEN-
harrisonhunter
07-06-2005, 01:01 PM
Always had great luck with the Rocket Sidewinders
goemado
07-06-2005, 09:18 PM
Slick Tricks
cshqck
07-14-2005, 01:45 PM
G5 Montec's for me. Tried Muzzy's first but was unable to get them to fly right consistently. Montec's for me are much less maintenance.
brdhntr
07-15-2005, 08:45 AM
I've been using the Wasp JakHammer SST's in 75 gr for nearly 10 years. Killed more than a dozen deer with them and zero complaints. My current setup is shooting about 275.
polarbare21
07-15-2005, 09:20 AM
Montec G-5 Killed everything I shot with it in Africa, all were full pass throughs. most animals went 60yards.
Kudu are huge! 50 yards, Blue Wildebeest big animal- 60 yards.
1 impala went 120 yards with no heart in him. But his adrenaline was pumped cause he'd been fighting 3 seconds before the arrow impact.
fulldraw
07-15-2005, 12:14 PM
Slick Trick was used in Africa By Howard of Hog Wild Archery He to put it through all the African game that he killed.
Fulldraw
WALLDADY
07-16-2005, 11:04 AM
NAP . 100gr. Spitfires . Bad to the bone . or should I say . Bad thru the bone , They are great .
Good Luck and Safe Trips ............ Walldady
rodboy
07-16-2005, 11:53 AM
Thanks guys.
Thinking of going with rocket sidwinders.
savagethirty06
07-19-2005, 01:50 PM
MAGNUS STINGERS... put them on last year, got maximum penetration and very very very little difference between them and a field point
Cherokee
07-19-2005, 02:00 PM
As Ken E used to say down at the old Bear Archery in GR,
"The best broadhead is the one that kills your deer!"
Makes sense, any of the heads mentioned will kill if the shot placement is correct. Guess it will come down to what flies best with your set-up.
Good Luck!
SR-Mechead
07-19-2005, 03:04 PM
As Ken E used to say down at the old Bear Archery in GR,
"The best broadhead is the one that kills your deer!"
Makes sense, any of the heads mentioned will kill if the shot placement is correct. Guess it will come down to what flies best with your set-up.
Good Luck!
Cherokee If you hung around Bear Archery then I had to see you there, because I worked there for 10 years. Kenny was the man.
I think the muzzy is the best out there today
Cherokee
07-19-2005, 03:16 PM
SR(Bob):
I'll be darned....it's been a long time, but his wisdom on broadheads has always stuck with me. I'm sure you heard him say it thousands of times when the question was asked " What's the best broadhead?"
He sold me my first compound bow - an Allen Speedster !!:lol: I'm sure you and I crossed paths before we ever met in the forest and didn't even know it until today...
Rob
Gobblerman
07-21-2005, 05:44 PM
I have been shooting Inner Locs over the past 5 years, however this year I'm going to try the Monted G5's. So far the shoot (practice broadheads) shoot great. Seem to shoot better than the Inner Locs.
Handlining Rules
07-21-2005, 05:49 PM
Anyone else try First Cuts or am I the only one that uses them.
Byron
07-21-2005, 06:33 PM
If you like mechanicals try Rocky Mountain Snypers.
:yeahthat: :woohoo1: :yeahthat:
The original 2-blade will do the job Nicely!
captainhowdy
07-21-2005, 06:40 PM
Wenzel Woodsman on a cedar shaft... Nothing like a 600 grain arrow to mess up some poor deers day...
Deadweight
07-22-2005, 12:49 AM
Thunderhead 100 by NAP are the way to go, I've been hunting with them for 15yrs-with aluminum arrows and carbon. In 2003 killed a nice mule buck at 67yds on the laser rangefinder, double lunged him also full penetration. Thunderheads are at least worth a try.
RackSmacker
07-23-2005, 02:35 PM
Fixed Blade- Slik Trick
Mech.- Hypershock
Thunderhead
07-24-2005, 11:27 AM
Thunderheads hands down. In my opinion, best head on the market.
creekman
07-24-2005, 07:27 PM
Rocky Mountain Gator XP flies exactly like a field tip
chevyjam2001
07-24-2005, 08:03 PM
Tekkan expandable by G5 Outdoors. It is the first expandable that I have gotten a complete pass through with. My bow only hits about 235 fps w/ carbon arrows. But it is whisper quiet. I tried the Crimson Talon last year and while it produced plenty of blood and the flight was decent the ferules got ruined on impact making them a 1 shot broadhead which is to expensive for me.
noname
07-24-2005, 09:18 PM
NAP . 100gr. Spitfires . Bad to the bone . or should I say . Bad thru the bone , They are great .
Good Luck and Safe Trips ............ Walldady
Spitfires are ok, IF you have a great broadside shot and ALLOT of kinetic energy. They require ALLOT of energy to open. They go in about 1 to 1 1/2 in before they are open so if they dont pass through you only have a 5/8 entry wound which will be plugged by you arrow. If you have a Spitfire on your shaft and the dear is quartered dont even think about shooting. Odds are the will deflect. I dont care who tells you they are good heads, I've wasted many hours tracking deer that were hit by Spitfires. Many of the knock-off companies make copies off Spitfires, dont waste your money on them or the real thing.
I am not trying to act as if I know more about archery or hunting than everyone, but unless you are a awesome shot and can poke the sweet spot everytime dont use a Spitfire or any Spitfire style heads. I have seen so many deer lost to Spitfires that it makes me sick. The guys who lost them were not weekend warriors either most were accomplished archers. A whitetail does not always offer the perfect broadside shot, thats life. I have invited guys to hunt my property, in which deer are plentiful, if they have a Spitfire I tell them to change heads or go home. Nobody will ever launch an arrow at a anything on my land if there is a Spitfire screwed on.:rant:
I made my recommendations on heads earlier in this thread. Your best bet is to shoot as many different heads as you can and find the one that flies good for you and your setup, much like a bow, the right head will choose you.
I have tried many mechanicals and would have to say Snypers are the most reliable, G5 Tekans are also good, Gator XPs as well. Go with a cam action mechanical, they require almost zero energy to open so whether or not they pass threw you still have a good entry wound that your arrow can not plug. Placed in a good spot they will leave a tail a blind man could follow. I recently tried Hypershocks, nice head but they have to go in too far before completly opening, so you do not get a good entry wound.
Bring it on I'm ready:bash:
Byron
07-24-2005, 11:50 PM
noname,
I agree completely!
Best Regards,
Byron
onebad800
07-25-2005, 11:59 AM
100g thunderheads nothing else.
lawnboy
07-25-2005, 08:48 PM
How dose one practice with a mechanical head say the Sniper.
captainhowdy
07-25-2005, 08:55 PM
You don't practice with them... Which is why I personally would never use a mechanical...
Byron
07-25-2005, 09:07 PM
How dose one practice with a mechanical head say the Sniper.
A few choices:
1. Wrap wire around the blade tails to keep them closed.
2. Shoot one head (or two or three, whatever you want to pay for) for practice, then perhaps add heads you've put through deer already to your practice group.
3. Realize after a few shots that there is NO NEED to practice with them. They make practice heads every day: they're called "field points". The Snyper does not plane, period.
Seriously, try the Snypers. You will not be disappointed.
Best Regards,
Byron
Byron
07-25-2005, 09:10 PM
You don't practice with them... Which is why I personally would never use a mechanical...
Pretty weak logic. The reason to practice with broadheads is to ensure they hit where you aim. Snypers (as well as many other low-profile mechanicals) will not plane at any attainable arrow speed. Is there some other reason to practice with them, or are you just plain against mechanical heads, period?
Best Regards,
Byron
captainhowdy
07-25-2005, 09:30 PM
I should have elaborated more on my post... yes you can practice with mechanicals, but more than likely you'll waste the blades... I personally wouldn't use em to practice with simply cause there like $30.00 for 3 broadheads... Mechanicals have truely come a long way. Remeber those awful punch cutters? What a nightmare... The snypers are hands down the best design I've seen yet...
beararch#1
07-26-2005, 10:10 AM
Rodboy, scince your bow is so fast, I would so with a mechanical broad head. I think the 100 grain hypershock by aftershock archery would be a good choice.
HoytRLWinstonGuy
08-30-2005, 07:07 PM
Muzzy three blade 100s all the way. Ive shot deer where Ive blown through both shoulders at 20 yards. They fly with near field point accuracy for a fixed blade. Also shot one right behind the shoulder blades and cracked its spine dropping it in its tracks. The Trocar tip is super tough.
deputy
08-30-2005, 07:13 PM
Muzzy nothing but Muzzy
even the 4 blade 100 grain fly like darts actually they fly better than my 3 blade 100s
wild bill
08-30-2005, 09:27 PM
nap nitrons for me.
ScottC
08-31-2005, 04:02 PM
Tight Point Shuttle T-Locks, 100 grain is what I am shooting this year.
Heard great things about G5 Montecs and Thunderheads. For mechanicals, heard that Grim Reapers were the way to go.
Scott
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