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explodingvarmints
06-25-2005, 07:57 AM
what do you guys think about these rests for hunting? i like the idea that the arrow is always set and can't fall off the rest when put in different positions, but i wonder about friction and fletching probs.
Swamp Monster
06-25-2005, 08:06 AM
Grab some popcorn and a 2 liter of pop......do a search and you'll get pages and pages of reading on this subject without much of a consensus.
The WB is not for me......fletching contact is against my religion (don't mean to keep stealing Kelly's thunder, but hey, he's right!)
The drop away is the only way!
TnRidge
06-25-2005, 05:08 PM
what do you guys think about these rests for hunting? i like the idea that the arrow is always set and can't fall off the rest when put in different positions, but i wonder about friction and fletching probs.
In my opinion , the WB the best rest for HUNTING, period . I use Gold Tip black XT Hunters ,fletched with Blazer vanes and have great arrow flight with NO fletching wear or shot noise .
The beauty of the rest is that it is simple to setup for centershot ,and you dont have a bunch of screws to adjust like a drop away for elevation ,centershot ,timing ,etc .
I have tested a TKO drop away to compare them . I shot better with the WB ,and it was far easier to setup .
BTW, I don't work for them or sell them ,I'm just a loyal user of the WB .;)
booktens
06-25-2005, 08:08 PM
Been bow hunting for 30 years and I love my Whisker Biscuit. Wish I had one many years ago.
hungry hunter
06-25-2005, 11:08 PM
I have used one from day one and have never had any issues with it. I think they are great and you never have to worry about the arrow falling and making a loud noise right at the most important moment
noname
06-26-2005, 12:18 AM
I've used the new Wb as well as the old ones, the older ones were loud on the draw, the new was are better, But if you are looking for a rest that contains the arrow go with a RipCord or a QAD Ultra. I've had my Ripcord for awhile and love it. I want to try the QAD since I have heard good things about it. APA Archery also make a total containment fall away which I tried it seem to be a good rest, only draw back was the model I shot you had to load from behind, they do make a model that has side load. Check em out. I think Golden Key also makes a total containment drop away. The WB is an OK rest but I dont like the fact that it eats feathers and wears vanes. Blazer vanes hold up well in them though. There are just to many unknown or unexpected variables with the WB, such as if one vane is wrinkled is it going to drag more threw the WB and cause an error in arrow flight???? Fall away is superior in my opinion.
One more thing on the APA rest, by just looking at it there seems to be minimal clearance, dont worry, I shot Blazers threw it with no problems.
tjays
06-26-2005, 08:29 AM
I put mine on last summer and I love it plus it works! Wish I had one many years. you can see the results.
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/500/medium/deer.jpg
lawnboy
06-26-2005, 08:41 AM
I have had one for years. One thing that I did find is that you have to put about a hundred rounds though it first to break it in.
TnRidge
06-26-2005, 09:04 AM
I have had one for years. One thing that I did find is that you have to put about a hundred rounds though it first to break it in.
The new B 2 with the softer bristles don't need any break in .;)
passthru
06-26-2005, 01:03 PM
There are 2 schools of thought one rests. WB shooters and the guys who are for no contact. Im from the latter. I shoot a Trap Door and it works sweet. I just reciently got both Muzzys and Sonics to group with my field point out to 40 yards. Id buy a WB for a kid just starting out though. Makes a great kids or beginners rest! ;)
TnRidge
06-26-2005, 05:17 PM
Id buy a WB for a kid just starting out though. Makes a great kids or beginners rest! ;)
Been bowhunting since 1980 ,the WB is the best HUNTING rest I have used so far ,and I have tried drop aways . KISS!!!!!!
rodboy
06-26-2005, 05:55 PM
Nothing wrong with prong rest....
passthru
06-27-2005, 08:49 AM
TnRidge, So who really cares how long youve been bowhunting. That has nothing to do with anything. I know of guys who have been bowhunting since the early 70s that I wouldnt take what they say for a fist full of dollars. You shoot what you want and if it works for you then thats cool! I personally would not even consider placing one on my bow and thats COOL too! :lol: Is that ok with you? Have a good one!
GVDocHoliday
06-27-2005, 09:53 AM
Wouldn't touch one with a 10 foot pole. Shooting 3d the past couple of years I have become quite a stipler for perfection and accuracy and I'll never shoot anything that comprimises one or the other. I want my arrow coming off of the bow as soon as possible to prevent any possible torquing effects. When you have arrow contact up until the arrow actually clears the rest instead of just the string, you open your arrow flight o succeptable torquing issues. This will impact broadhead flight especially.
Blazes are a great rest, but the bohning low profile xvanes would work better if you want to use the WB. Mainly because the blazers work best with a hard helical fletch, this in conjunction with a WB will cause up to 8fps speed loss(this was tested) over an arrow fletched with straight fletching, and the low profile vanes are very stiff and won't wrinkle, again this is if you still want to use the WB.
But if you want a containment rest, look at the Ripcord. You get the containment of the WB with the benefits of the fallaway.
Smokey's Archery
06-27-2005, 10:06 AM
TnRidge, So who really cares how long youve been bowhunting. That has nothing to do with anything. I know of guys who have been bowhunting since the early 70s that I wouldnt take what they say for a fist full of dollars. You shoot what you want and if it works for you then thats cool! I personally would not even consider placing one on my bow and thats COOL too! :lol: Is that ok with you? Have a good one!
Hey Passthru,
I don't know how long you have been a part of the archery family but keep this in mind... this is a sport of individual preferences and practices and each one(with in the bounds of morality and ethics) deserves the respect and polite consideration of every other family member. The kind of attitude portrayed by that response is never allowed in my shop or in my camp. Experience does make a difference, and just like advice offered everywhere it should be considered and then discarded or accepted as you desire. Our sport is under attack and our numbers are declining, don't you think you should be helping us to strengthen our bonds... not divide the ranks?
If your response was intended as a joke it did not read that way. There are many new readers on this site lets not give them the wrong impression.
Dan, with 29 years of hunting and shooting experience within our family.
passthru
06-27-2005, 12:00 PM
Hey Smokey, Your right and I have the right to the opinion that the WB is best for kids and beginners. I like having no contact on my shaft and tha is that. If you read my last post you will see I wrote that if it works for you then COOL! He got really crappy with the KISS statement. I wasnt trying to be derogitory and Im sorry you took it that way. I also have alot of bowhunting experiance and in my opinion I feel that WBs are not as good as drop aways.
TnRidge
06-27-2005, 04:29 PM
Pass thru , I find your suggestion that the rest is just good for beginners and kids a little condesending , and that's why I posted how much bowhunting experience I had .;) I don't consider myself new at the sport and personally enjoy helping new hunters get their start in archery . I didn't have a wealth of info available on the internet when I got started out like we have these days . I learned alot by trial and error , magazine articles , Anderson's Archery , and experienced friends .
I try to stay out of the equipment arguements ,but I will support a product if I think it is a worthy accessory for hunting or archery . To each his own . I have tested a drop away ,and I didn't think it was any more accurate than my Whisker Biscuit .
Oh BTW ,take a look at the drop away thread . I posted a picture just for you :D
Take care ,I'm done .
KISS
FlyBoy
06-27-2005, 05:06 PM
i think the WB2 would be great for passthru, by reading his threads he comes across as a child, and in his own words its a good rest for a child. :gaga: i shoot a WB2 and have had zero problems. KISS why should i worry about zero contact when i have no problems keeping my shots in the kill zone at 35 yards. ive sat through the rain and snow and have had no problem with it freezing up like some have said. plain and simple its an awesome rest.
GVDocHoliday
06-27-2005, 05:39 PM
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101742
Here you go WB users...let's put you're money where your mouth is. You won't find a single target setup at this shoot, it's all hunters who get together and like to talk alot of smack and have a good time. I'll tell you right now however that their won't be a single WB on the podium.
TnRidge
06-27-2005, 05:55 PM
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101742
Here you go WB users...let's put you're money where your mouth is. You won't find a single target setup at this shoot, it's all hunters who get together and like to talk alot of smack and have a good time. I'll tell you right now however that their won't be a single WB on the podium.
I usually judge success with bloody arrows ,not standing on a podium .:)
If I didn't have a 600 mile trip ,I would be there ! I'm allways up for a little fun !
Rasher
06-27-2005, 06:23 PM
I would'nt say that Doc, I just flung a few arrows with Mikie on sunday, he just switched to the bisq., I also shoot one however I aint good enough to make it to the podium.
GVDocHoliday
06-27-2005, 07:09 PM
Go over to the Oneida forum...I talk smack to Mikie every single day. Ain't that right Mikie? :lol: I know you're snoop'n 'round here somewhere.
I've bloodied plenty of arrows with out a single non-recovery, and 3d is a very good measuring stick for precision and accuracy.
I know that it has been said before, but I love my WB. One of the reasons is because it falls into the "KISS" line of thinking. I haven't had any fletching problems with it,my buddy lost a some feathers to it, he bought his arrows straight out of the stock box, I had mine crested and refletched, I was thinking maybe his didn't recieve the same care and proper amount of adhesive. I am using the newer WB, maybe that was the beef on the older stiffer WB. I'm shooting groups at 40yds that I have never been able to do before. Most of that I have to credit to buying a new bow last summer, but the WB isn't hurting me either. For hunting use I'd wouldn't steer anyone away, in fact I've talked 4 of my buddies into it and they love it. I also talked them into a summit climber....but thats another long and talked out thread. :D
GVDocHoliday
06-28-2005, 10:40 AM
Now that summit climber is a piece of art...I love my clearshot. Very small, lightweight, and easily packed into hard to reach places, not to mention the lack of a side railing which gives some great unobstructed shooting in all directions.
Bow Hunter Brandon
06-29-2005, 10:22 PM
I usually judge success with bloody arrows ,not standing on a podium .:)
!
:yeahthat:
dongiese
06-29-2005, 10:59 PM
Anyways this post went south fast.
I switched last year, put an extra drop of fletch glue on the front of the fletch.
Other than that I see no difference in my shooting. I had an overdraw and the shop talked me out of using it, so i went with the biscuit.
Pinefarm
06-30-2005, 07:21 AM
The WB isn't a problem, childish posters are. CLOSED. :sad:
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