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*: You are on channel 1 with Trout. *: You are on channel 1 with alleninalaska. Trout: back again alleninalaska: back, that was a quick meal Trout: Yes it was lite alleninalaska: I downloaded this program called mirc, and it allows you too talk here and somewhere else at the same time Trout: It was lite Trout: Don't know what happen there alleninalaska: how many fish did you guys catch total? Trout: Thats interesting Trout: 5 it was a real slow day Trout: we had 9 hook ups alleninalaska: How many broke off? Trout: 2 I think Trout: We pulled a few hooks out trolled at 2.4 Trout: ended up with 2 steelies and 3 kings alleninalaska: I thought that the one you we're holding was a steelie Trout: yeah it was 14 # Trout: Hardly marked any fish no bait fish were marked alleninalaska: nice steelie Trout: The lake is barren alleninalaska: find any thermoclines Trout: The captain had all types of gadgets and we found fish at 56" *: webmaster just logged on to Jabber Chat. Trout: 56 ft. Trout: Hi web alleninalaska: Hi Steve webmaster: Hello guys. webmaster: I suppose you guys heard the news by now. Trout: you won the lotto? webmaster: I had to cut JQ loose. He was out of control. alleninalaska: What's that Trout: or you pulled the plug? alleninalaska: I will surely miss him LOL Trout: he needs his own site webmaster: I felt bad after I did it but he had to go. alleninalaska: Did you write down his ISP so you can catch him trying to sneak back alleninalaska: Gotta do what you Gotta do webmaster: No allen but I banned him by email and IP address so unless he gets another ISP he is gone. Trout: Some times breaking up is hard too do :) Trout: LOL webmaster: Ya right trout. Trout: Hey I'm fishing for cats tonight gotta go at 9 or so webmaster: I thought he might try to show up here for chat as the two are not integrated. alleninalaska: Well if I have two ISP in this little town, I am sure he has access to more than one Trout: Just kidding web :) I don't want the ax too webmaster: Don't worry trout. Like I said, I hated doing it. The last thing I want to do is to stomp out all opposing viewpoints but he was way out of control. webmaster: If he would have even talked about hunting for fishing a few times I would have given him a break. Trout: Yep your right alleninalaska: He said he hunted Quail once webmaster: I must have missed that one. Trout: That was Dan Quayle alleninalaska: LOL webmaster: :) Good one trout! Trout: is that right? Trout: must have been alleninalaska: No he said he was a Quail hunter webmaster: No more left wing propanganda Trout: Hey web did you read 333 post about meeting and shooting together Trout: I thought he said grouse ?? webmaster: Yes I did. Don't know if I have time to organize such an outing though. Have to go to Germany soon for work. alleninalaska: maybe it was grouse, bird hunter anyways. Trout: for how long alleninalaska: Can I go, huh pretty please webmaster: At least a week. Trout: Hunt the red deer Trout: Exspensive webmaster: You'd really want to Allen? Trout: spelling is bad tonight webmaster: The place is smokier than hell. alleninalaska: Just kidding, I am already in God's country Trout: from what? webmaster: From people smoking strong cigarettes all over the place. Trout: inside? or all over webmaster: brb guys Trout: Whats going on in Bethel this time of year allen? alleninalaska: Not much, you saw the pictures, hope to have the boat in the water next week sometime Trout: That would be fast bet the waters cold alleninalaska: Probably in the hogh 30's low 40's Trout: Water here is 46 in the lake Trout: 54 near shore on a good day alleninalaska: Too cold for the fish, they will start moving at about 50-53 down there Trout: The river I am fishing tonight is warmer and looks like brown coffee Trout: Thats what the capt. said alleninalaska: Spring colors Trout: we catch catfish up to 20 # in the river Trout: Spring is coming on fast alleninalaska: That's cool Trout: I will be turkey hunting Tuesday Trout: The leaves are almost filled out alleninalaska: Good luck on that Turkey hunt Trout: I wish for Fall but I don't want to rush it Trout: I have to guide 4 people so it will be FUN Trout: I'll send you some pics webmaster: Trout where are you going turkey hunting again? alleninalaska: You a Turkey guide? webmaster: Be sure to send us some pictures as well trout. We just got five more up yesterday. webmaster: By the way trout did you get your shirt? Trout: That bear book I told you about was about Pinnell and Talifson Trout: I hunt 3 miles from here webmaster: Wow pretty close to home. Trout: Yes I forgot to thank you for the shirt thanks alleninalaska: Old time Brown Bear guides on Kodiak island and the Alaska Penninsula webmaster: Not the highest quality thing in the world but its a start. Trout: I remember their ads in Outdoor life Trout: Those tees hold up really nice Trout: my wife is hard on the wash Trout: I was wearing the last tee in the fish pic but I held the fish up (dumb) *: boehr just logged on to Jabber Chat. *: boehr just entered this channel. Trout: The turkey pics will show the shirts webmaster: Welcome boehr!! Trout: hi boehr alleninalaska: Hi Boehr boehr: How be everyone tonight? webmaster: Just great boehr. Trout: good going fishing later alleninalaska: I'm trying to keep up with two live chats at the same time? boehr: I see JQ is gone...Iactually started clapping to the computer :) Trout: ;) webmaster: Yeah, had to cut him loose. I felt bad about it. I don't know why. Trout: your too kind boehr: Temps sure did turn around, it is actually cold out there. Trout: Yeah I told the wife to dress warm *: “..but” is not a valid action. boehr: ok...but not a valid action so...but that's ok, my outboard is in the shop getting fixed. Trout: So is mine I hope it gets done before this Fall :) Trout: Those mechanics are slow boehr: Too few mechanics...to many boats Trout: Boehr whats the size limit on catfish ???? boehr: Flathead is 15", Channel cats is 12" Trout: thanks I can't place my rule book boehr: 10 possession limit on channel cats boehr: 5 possession on flatheads Trout: I neve5r keep but two or three boehr: Flathead, the five is in combination with bass, walleye and pike too Trout: Not too many flatheads around here Trout: Hey guys we are going fishing so I'll post what we catch later Trout: Bye boehr: I see some but mostly I see channel cats, lots of people use to fish for them at night from shore in Saginaw Bay just about this time of year, maybe a little later alleninalaska: Later Trout *: Trout just logged off. *: Trout just logged off. *: BobJS just logged on to Jabber Chat. *: BobJS just entered this channel. boehr: Hellow Bob alleninalaska: Hi BobJS BobJS: Hi guys, would have been here soon but it took me a while to remember my password boehr: Happens to me too Bob webmaster: Welcome BobJS what's on your mind tonight? BobJS: I have a question boehr, If I am on my own property with a small game license and carrying a revolver, do I need to be wearing hunter orange? boehr: Yes, if between Aug 15 and April 30 boehr: If you are hunting! BobJS: But not tomorrow then? boehr: Correct BobJS: just walking around BobJS: thanks alot webmaster: So boehr, got any good stories about violators that you've run across lately? boehr: If you were...say target practicing on Sept 20 then you don't need orange, only while hunting between those dates. BobJS: OK, Thanks boehr: Well, I do have a situation that I am trying to find out the facts or cure a rumor *: You are on channel 1 with alleninalaska, boehr, BobJS. webmaster: What do you mean? boehr: I had a call from a local sport shop that told me he had a person in the shop that had received a ticket last March for hunting rabbits with an illegal gun boehr: that gun being a Thompson Contender with a .410 barrel in the shotgun zone. boehr: That normally would not be an illegal weapon at that time of the year boehr: So...I told the sport shop to have the guy call me when he got home to look at the ticket and tell me the name of the officer webmaster: I see, always something isn't it? boehr: That way I could have the ticket dismissed and teach the officer boehr: or...is this just about something somebody heard and is spreading something around that's not true???? boehr: This happened last Thursday and so far I have heard nothing, I have check with all my officers in my district and none of them wrote a ticket like that webmaster: Well I know you will miss having JQ around :) alleninalaska: The 410 contender barrel is also chambered for the 45 Colt boehr: The only think that I can think of that would make it an illegal weapon is if the guy did not have it registered....Thomspon Contender must be registered as a handgun alleninalaska: only the frame boehr: Doesn'y matter about the 45 because in March you can hunt rabbits with a 30-06 if you want in the shotgun zone webmaster: Wouldn't be much left of the rabbit :) boehr: I agree but at this point I think it was another JQ in the sport shop spreading around a rumor to cause controversy boehr: I know if I got a ticket and I knew I was write, I'd be calling the supervisor for help boehr: Maybe he will call this week, I hate having a situation like this that can't be brought to an end BobJS: The problem I had with JQ was that he seemed to spread his opinion as fack to often. webmaster: Well it looks like a slow night here tonight. I thought we'd have JQ here ranting and raving. BobJS: oops fact boehr: I don't think he has ever been on has he? webmaster: JQ would have been ok if he'd talk about hunting and fishing once in a while. Plus I had way too many complaints about him from other users. webmaster: No I've never seen him on chat. BobJS: maybe that why it is slow, some of the guys didn want to put up with him boehr: I don't mind someone with different ideas, that makes things better in the long run but to keep stating the same think over & over & over........... webmaster: So what do you guys think about the new NRC baiting props? *: gooser just logged on to Jabber Chat. *: gooser just entered this channel. webmaster: Howdy gooser! Ever been on the campfire before? BobJS: I have not baited in about 12 years, so they can ban it all together for all I care gooser: no first time alleninalaska: Hi gooser. You just left shooters com that was quick webmaster: I'm guessing that you are a waterfowl hunter gooser. alleninalaska: This is one towards my t-shirt web gooser: thats right boehr: web...I'm not sure what to think, I a little confussed about the baiting issue. As a hunter I'd really like baiting done away with webmaster: Sure would make things easier wouldn't it? You wouldn't have to worry about the guy in the next section over having all the deer on his prop because he has 3 tons of carrots out. BobJS: IMO, a hunter uses the woods, a baiter harvests, and I think I am a hunter boehr: I also seen a release that is going to possibly make it that if someone doesn't turn in their survey postcard he will not be able to purchase a license the following year BobJS: or at the least I try to be BobJS: I read that too webmaster: Well they ought to send everyone a survey every year. webmaster: Or make you call in a 1-800 number when you get your deer so you get a code which would allow you to take it to a processor. boehr: As a hunter, I'm not against a hunter that does bait providing it's reasonable webmaster: I have used bait, but I have enough experience, and the spots that I hunt are good enough that I could get by without it. That is, if no-one else around me is using it either. gooser: Just wanted to checkout your site,I'll be back later boehr: Problem I have with the postcard is acurate. If a hunter wants more deer in his area, will he/she tell the truth on his experience or will he tell something that they think will benefit next year webmaster: Enjoy *: gooser just logged off. webmaster: Still more scientific than we have now boehr. BobJS: like when you get a new credit card and you have to call the number to activate your card. The same could be done with licenses. After the season you call an 800# . webmaster: Yes, Bob! boehr: I don't know, is it. We sent out about 40000 postcards plus all the hunters that bring in there deer for a patch, I don't know BobJS: press 1 for a doe, 2 for a buck and then enter # of points webmaster: Well more scientific than watching deer go down I-75. boehr: The phone would be ok but you still want to know the county, how many days you hunted etc. BobJS: with all of the trucks and SUVs it must be tough counting deer on cars boehr: Web the deer going down 75 has nothing to do with the deer count BobJS: you could ure the doe area # for the county boehr: The deer going down 75 is to give the press an idea that the season is going good, same as last etc webmaster: So boehr what do they use then? boehr: Everybody want to know how deer season is progressing boehr: They use the 40000 post cards they have been sending out every year for many many years boehr: That's fourty thousand webmaster: Right boehr, I did get one of those surveys, but only one year out of the ten that I've hunted. BobJS: I heard a rumor this week that the opener might be moved to the 11th, a Saturday, boehr: Well there is 750,000 hunters so you are not going to get one every year webmaster: I know, that's why I think the 40,000 is way too low. boehr: Look at it this way, the presidential election they poll 500 people and they can tell you who's going to win by what margin, webmaster: Yea, I suppose, but they can't get enough info as to what the buck/doe ratio is in a lot of areas I wouldn't think. BobJS: but thats a scientific poll, whats scientific about how the DNR sends out postcards? boehr: Bob that's a radom poll, same way the postcards are sent out boehr: There are summer deer observation reports that are done for an idea of buck to doe ratio webmaster: I don't know boehr, it just seems like it could be more accurate than it is now. webmaster: Who does the observation reports? BobJS: a lot of political polls are done by professional pollsters who know how to take a poll boehr: Conservation Officers, biologists, some rual mailmen some volunteers etc webmaster: Sound interesting, how do you volunteer? BobJS: a lot of hunters don have that kind of faith in the DNR postcard system boehr: You must remember, just one method is not just used, it's a combination of many different methods over the course of one year, every year boehr: A lot of hunters have never taken the time time find out about the methods webmaster: Yeah, maybe its just a matter of promotion. Maybe they need some more publicity and visibility on what they are already doing? boehr: What makes you think that the hunter will have faith in this proposed postcard method? BobJS: the system may be very accurate, but a lot of hunters dont have faith in it, I see that as the problem webmaster: Don't have faith in it or they don't know about all the methods employed and their relative accuracy. boehr: I agree Bob, they don't have faith in it and many, no matter what is done will never have faith in it BobJS: either way better communication from the DNR is in order boehr: Bob, are you a member of a sportsmens club? BobJS: agree, next topic? BobJS: Saginaw Field and Stream *: Hunter333 just logged on to Jabber Chat. *: Hunter333 just entered this channel. boehr: I don't know ever of a biologist or an officer who was asked to speak at a club and refused Hunter333: hello all, nice to see someone else is here webmaster: Howdy Hunter! Hunter333: first time here, whats the topic? boehr: The DNR puts out all kinds of press released but can not force that information to be printed webmaster: Whatever is on your mind. BobJS: agree Hunter333: Not too many of us here tonight webmaster: I thought you've been here before. I guess I must just recognize your name from the forums. webmaster: No Hunter it is a slow night. Hunter333: Nope, always too stinkin busy :( BobJS: I think a lot of it is, if a hunter doesnt see the amount of deer he thinks he should, then it must be the fault of DNR policy webmaster: What part of MI you from Hunter? Hunter333: West side, Shelby area. You? boehr: That's part of it and part of it is storys are taken a fact without really seeing if they are true Hunter333: Name please Webmaster? webmaster: Oakland County. You fish much over there? webmaster: My name is Steve. Hunter333: Nope, went to school in Washtenaw but never got outdoors much over on taht side Hunter333: I figured but thought that I would ask, thanks BobJS: Well guys, its been fun, but time for bed. Going to go walking in the swamp tomorrow. webmaster: So where do you live now? Hunter333: Any news on the Million Mom March? boehr: Take care Bob BobJS: till next time. Hunter333: Shelby, north of Muskegon *: BobJS just logged off. Hunter333: Any thoughts on my MI Sportsman get together? Hunter333: Pipe dream on my part? webmaster: Hunter ya do any trout fishing over there? webmaster: Seem like a good idea, just don't have much time left over after running this site. boehr: I could go for a get together Hunter Hunter333: Not yet but I would like to learn how webmaster: Then ya gotta worry about somebody like Johnny Quality showing up. Hunter333: It would be nice to get together with everyone and put a face with a name Hunter333: I would welcome him, then ignore him, like now :) alleninalaska: Hit the White River for trout Hunter webmaster: Hunter I have fished some of the tribs of the White over that way with some success. Hunter333: If we ignore him, he will not be here for long boehr: He'll probably be back under a different name Hunter333: I wouldnt know where to start but hope to someday webmaster: He's gone as of today Hunter Hunter333: Roger that! Thanks Hunter333: With his ideas, he will be easy to spot webmaster: Allen, you've fished the White? Hunter333: Allen, are you really way out in the boonies in Alaska? alleninalaska: Yes if you consider 400 miles from Anchorage way out in the boonies Hunter333: Isnt technology wonderful? :) alleninalaska: I was born and raised in Muskegon though webmaster: I consider Anchorage way out in the boonies :) Hunter333: Where would I start to trout fish? Hunter333: Really? Thats not too far from here. I use to live there myself alleninalaska: I have an Uncle living about 6-7 miles east of Shelby, can't remember the name of the little intersectioin though boehr: I was thinking the same thing web alleninalaska: It's been since 82 that I visited him last webmaster: Allen did you ever fish Carleton creek? Hunter333: Hesperia? alleninalaska: I don't remember if I did or not. Usually just went fishing and didn't think of names Hunter333: Nice little river there, part of the White River I believe webmaster: Nice brookie trib of the White. boehr: Well guys, think I'm going to say goodnight, won"t be able to make it Thursday sa take care all Hunter333: So what do i need to have to get into trout fishin? alleninalaska: Family had a cabin on North Lake back in the early sixties to the early seventies webmaster: Later Boehr. Hunter333: See ya Boehr webmaster: Hunter you need a fishing pole, some hooks, and some crawler if you want to keep it simple. Hunter333: Simple is good :) *: boehr just logged off. Hunter333: Pole, hooks I have Hunter333: When and where? Just cast out? alleninalaska: Big juicey night crawlers webmaster: I been meaning to put together a beginning trout fishing tutorial for this site but never got around to it. Hunter333: That would be great!! Let me know if you get to it webmaster: Just put the hook throught the crawler and use the whole crawler. Try to make the crawler look natural on the hook, hooking it near the band of the crawler. webmaster: Then use a split shot if there is a lot of current and dead drift your rig through any holes you can find making it look like a crawler drifting through the hole. webmaster: No action just a dead drift. Hunter333: Is there a way to tell if one place is better than another? Spotting fish would help :0 Hunter333: :) webmaster: Once you get the hang of this and learn how to read the water and figure out where the fish are, you can graduate to fly fishing if that is your desire. Hunter333: I intend to get out and do some out of the way fishin this summer Hunter333: That wiykd be great! webmaster: You can watch the water during a hatch. If there are fish there you will see them rising to eat. Hunter333: would, gotta love the typing :) webmaster: Well guys, I have to call it a nite. See ya. Hunter333: Later Steve Hunter333: I do too Hunter333: goodnight all *: webmaster just logged off. alleninalaska: Later web, I am going to call it quits also. If you ever want to chat hunter my e-mail is in my profile. c u later |
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